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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:19 PM
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WOuld Clark take the sidecar if Kerry is the nominee?
I don't think Wes wants to be Dean's running mate. However, should JFK pull out the nomination, you think Clark would take VP?
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DoveTurnedHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:22 PM
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1. I Think He Would (eom)
DTH
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:24 PM
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5. That would be a great ticket.
anyway you look at it!!
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Maddy McCall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:23 PM
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2. Yes, I think he would and it would be a great combo
Would love to see the two paired either way.
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:23 PM
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3. I think so.
Politically, they are very, very similar.
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Capn Sunshine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:23 PM
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4. NO.
If Kerry ends up the nominee, it will be by relentlessly hammering Clarks:
*lack of democrat credentials
*defense industry lobbying
*relentless screw ups un Kosovo
*and lack of electability

By the time the convention rolls around Clarks infamous ego would be bruised beyond repair, he will have taken his toys and gone home.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:36 PM
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11. true
But Sen. Kerry's pretty astute. He can frame the differences with Gen. Clark in terms of experience and commitment to the democratic party. Gen. Clark will need a true Democrat beside him to win the Democratic nomination.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:42 PM
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15. Actually it'll be the Reagan years
Maybe the defense industry lobbying. But I don't think Clark's skin is that thin. Kerry supported Kosovo so it would be kind of stupid for him to hammer Clark on it. The two of them would run a very tough campaign against each other and any and all defense weaknesses would definitely come out. In the end, they'd make a dynamite duo, as long as Clark can answer the Reagan years questions adequately to convince skeptical Dems like me.
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Tom Rinaldo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:25 PM
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6. Or vice versa?
Either would make for a good ticket.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:26 PM
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7. Probably....
I could see that happening.
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:28 PM
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8. I hope so
I would prefer Clark/Kerry but would not mind seeing Kerry/Clark.

I sense that Clark's values are more compatible with Kerry's than with Dean's.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:29 PM
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9. He has said flat-out he won't take the Veep slot.
I believe him.
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Qutzupalotl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:48 PM
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19. He said that when asked if he'd be Dean's VP
(at least when I saw him asked that).

His rationale was that to win, Democrats need to have strong national security credentials, and that "has to be at the top of the ticket." Kerry would fill that requirement, in spades. So I think Clark would accept the spot as Kerry's VP, and possibly Gephardt's.
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adadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:59 PM
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23. I agree with you
As I recall the initial query to VP was as Dean's running mate.
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Jerseycoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:35 PM
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10. If he weren't running for president
I think Clark would have been delighted to be chosen as Kerry's VP. If things played out the way you suggest, I still think he would. This ticket makes sense either way. But a Dean/Clark or Clark/Dean ticket never made a bit of sense.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:36 PM
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12. That would make Clark a hypocrite.
If you don't want to be VP, then you don't want to be VP,period.
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jumptheshadow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:41 PM
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14. The conditions have changed
When Russert asked Clark that question Dean was the frontrunner and Kerry looked like a sure loser.

If Kerry were to get the nomination Clark might have an entirely new perspective based on shared values and enhanced winning prospects.

I hope it's Clark/Kerry. And I hope these two guys don't kill each other off.

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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:43 PM
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16. Clark said he didn't want to be to Dean...
what Cheney is to Bush. That wouldn't be the case with Kerry. Kerry is an expert on domestic AND foreign policy.
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Rowdyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:36 PM
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13. Boy, would that be an awesome ticket
Likewise, in reverse
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:46 PM
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17. For at least a year, that's been my dream team.
Of course I never really believed the General would throw his hat in the ring. Now I want more than anything for him to win. But if Kerry gets the nod, and Clark decides to join him on the ticket, YOWSA!!
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:46 PM
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18. Stop teasing!
That would be great.
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GalleryGod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:56 PM
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22. DREAM TEAM ' 04 !!! Without A Doubt in...
" my Ex-Military mind"
:bounce: :toast: :party: :kick: :yourock: :grouphug:
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blm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:55 PM
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20. Absolutely. From what I heard last summer
Clark was being groomed for a VP spot IF Edwards failed to catch on. (Edwards may just pull this out with his very evident strengths building by the week. I think the oNLY thing that hurt Kerry and Edwards was the media failing to cover them fairly.)

And it sounded like Bill Clinton was a factor in that decision to bring it around to those three as the most electable for the Dems.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:23 PM
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25. Clinton's definitely got weight with Kerry and Clark
It would be a natural fit, although he also likes Edwards.
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Butterflies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:56 PM
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21. That's the ticket I've hoped for all along!
To see that team win would be the highpoint of the last 10 years of my life!
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 02:59 PM
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24. Not by the time they get through with eachother.
It's gonna get gooood. ;)
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SteveG Donating Member (833 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-15-04 03:24 PM
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26. Definite Dream Team
In either order. Clark has been very careful to not trash any of the other candidates, and I haven't heard any negative comments from Kerry about Clark.

some of the positives,
both have purple hearts, and medels for valor
both have strong foreign policy credentials.
both have excellent military credentials
both despise shrubya
Mass. and Ark. - Northeast and the South
Both have more brains in their little finger than shrub has in his entire head.
both are decent men who have paid their dues.

can't really think of any negatives.
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