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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:38 AM
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Dead even
From the WSJ: Both have 224 electoral votes with 90 still undecided, or, rather, some polls show Kerry leadings while others - Bush.

These 90 belong to: FL (27), OH (20), WI (10), MN (10), CO (9), AR (6)
NH (4) HI (4) (Hawaii???)



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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:48 AM
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1. Hmm, in all the talk of BBV, months ago, we all knew that
the only way he could steal the election would be if it was "close".

Guess what, it's "close". What a surprise, no?

A coincidence!! That's it!

Well I'm a coincidence theorist when it comes to this administration.

If it's close, they can steal it.

And if they can, they will.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:53 AM
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5. Depends on the internals
If they're skewed, then we're actually ahead.
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Nordic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 02:00 AM
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6. yeah but what about BBV?
The only way they can steal it through BBV is if it's close.

I think we all know that it's not close. It's not close at all. Just look at the crowds.
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mama Donating Member (76 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 06:00 AM
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8. I don't understand internals
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 06:01 AM by mama
Can you point me to a good explanation?
Thanks!
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:09 AM
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11. I don't know where to find them like some here
But when they bring up internals, they mean how many Republicans, Democrats and Independants were polled. If the sample leans too Republican (because the pollster thinks more Republicans are likely to vote) it can skew the results. We're know Gallup is over-sampling Republicans, as the numbers have been posted here somewhere. But I don't know where to go to get any other numbers.
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JohnnyCougar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:51 AM
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2. I bet we get all of those.
every single one of those states
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NDFan Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:53 AM
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3. Woo HOO!
Only 19 "Gore" electoral votes up for grabs! :D

(I refuse to believe Hawaii is a toss-up)

Bush has more states to defend! :nopity:
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:53 AM
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4. These polls
:crazy: They're driving me CrAzeeeeeeY!! :crazy: Up one day.. tied the next.. dead heat... :crazy: And yet they keep coming out with them DAILY now...

They're going to drive us all cRaAAAzzZZzzzzEeee :silly:
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 02:03 AM
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7. Considering how many different pollsters there are
and how many times they're polling (it seems like daily now), wouldn't everyone in American have to have been polled about 10 times already? You say you haven't been? Hmmmm...interesting....I wonder if it's because the polls are total bullshit and are being used to discourage us from voting! Well, FUCK YOU BushCo! Your lies and manipulations aren't stopping us!
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:44 AM
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9. The biggest X factor is that the polls include only those with land phones
who actually answer their phones.

We let the machine answers after just one ring and if anyone wants to talk to us, s/he will and then we answer.

Pollsters do not leave messages and, of course, they do not call cell phones which, for many young people, are the only phones that they have.

I hope that the majority of this second group follows Eminem and his latest video which was posted here yesterday
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MallRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:48 AM
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10. Don't worry about Hawaii.
Worst case scenario, it's a tie right now (43-43). The undecideds will break Kerry's way.

And frankly, I don't believe the worst case scenario. The poll which produced this result said that nearly a third of Democrats polled were voting for Bush. :crazy:

Except for a couple of southern states, I challenge you to find me a state where Kerry has less than 75% support from his base.

-MR
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PSU84 Donating Member (733 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 11:24 AM
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12. HUGE Kerry Victory!
FL (27), OH (20), MN (10), NH (4), and HI (4)
will ALL go for Kerry! That will give him 289 electoral votes.
I project Kerry to win 294 EVs, so WSJ must have given New Mexico to Bush, but it is definitely going to Kerry.

WI (10), CO (9), AR (6) are in play.

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