Drudge wrong. Again. Freepers fall for his bullshit. Again.

[LynnTheDem]

Republican Dr. David Kay, weapons inspector, bush's hand-picked leader of the ISG;

David Kay, the CIA's former chief weapons hunter in Iraq,(and hand-picked by BUSH) believes that the material was looted in the immediate aftermath of the war.

He said he saw the facility in May 2003, "and it was heavily looted at that time. Sometime between April and May, most of the stuff was carried off. The site was in total disarray, just like a lot of the Iraqi sites."

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-fg-explosives26oct26,1,5204158.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Iraqi (interim government bush hand-picked) officials told the International Atomic Energy Agency — the U.N. monitoring group — earlier this month that the explosives were looted after April 9, 2003, when U.S. forces entered Baghdad.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-fg-explosives26oct26,1,5204158.story?coll=la-home-headlines

Given the size of the missing cache, it would have been difficult to relocate undetected before the invasion, when U.S. spy satellites were monitoring activity at sites suspected of concealing nuclear and biological weapons.

"You don't just move this stuff in the middle of the night," said a former U.S. intelligence official who worked in Baghdad.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/iraq/la-fg-explosives26oct26,1,5204158.story?coll=la-home-headlines

At the time, there was no major insurgency and US military officials felt the war had been won, Kay said, so the Department of Defense did not fear that the weapons that disappeared in widespread looting would be used against US soldiers.

Later, as the insurgency heated, at least three major bombing sites in Iraq tested positive for HMX or RDX, Kay recalled.

Kay said that late into fall 2003, more than 100 large ammunition storage points had been left unsecured; everything from conventional bombs to artillery shells and rockets were unguarded.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2004/10/26/explosives_were_looted_after_iraq_invasion?pg=full

...military and non-proliferation analysts say that a detachment of soldiers not specifically trained in weapons inspections work and certainly an NBC news crew simply wouldn't be in a position to make such a determination. We're not talking about a storage unit with a few boxes in it, but a massive weapons complex made up of almost a hundred buildings and bunkers.

In any case, that visit wasn't the first time US troops went to the facility. That happened a week earlier, on April 4th, as was reported at the time. According to an AP account from the following day, the troops made spot visits to some of the buildings and found chemical warfare antidotes but no WMD.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030405-chem-readiness01.htm

The same report (April 5th, 2003) says they also found "thousands of five-centimetre by 12-centimetre boxes, each containing three vials of white powder" which were initially believed to be chemical agents but were later determined to be "explosives."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&contentId=A31589-2003Apr4¬Found=true

NBC report:

At the Pentagon, an official who monitors developments in Iraq said U.S.-led coalition troops had searched Al Qaqaa in the immediate aftermath of the March 2003 invasion and confirmed that the explosives were intact. Thereafter the site was not secured by U.S. forces, the official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6326367

The missing HMX, RDX and PETN-type military-grade explosives vanished sometime after the 2003 U.S. invasion of Iraq, the International Atomic Energy Agency said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/story/246296p-210983c.html

And even NBC isn't reporting on their "NBC embedded reporter" who says he never saw any explosives, although he wouldn't know them if they bit his arse anyways, according to US military weapons experts and anti-proliferation analysts.

bush FAILED to have KNOWN SITES secured.

THANK GOD for our troops that Iraq DIDN'T HAVE any 'WMD'!!!

And how very truly unfortunate they had bush as Commander in Thief, especially for those dead & wounded.

[jezebel]

1. They are really getting so desperate. Anytime I see that siren, I know he

is full of shit.

[novadem]

2. Yes, the freepers bit,

the question is: "will the cable news networks bite?"

[leftchick]

3. I was wondering about the UN Bombing in Iraq....

That was one of the most devastating since the invasion. I was thinking about this yesterday and am curious what they found there to be the explosives used....


"three major bombing sites in Iraq tested positive for HMX or RDX, Kay recalled."

[ClintonTyree]

4. They'll believe anything.................

that supports their position and guards their Idiot in Chief. They don't have that cumbersome rationale that the truth is important to any discussion.

[priapis]

5. but drudge gives admin plausible spin-support

the problem is it gives the admin spin-support. most people don't have the time or the patience to keep up with the details and nuance.

a convincing sounding-plausible bullshit story is better than a complicated detailed truth.

[priapis]

6. spin prrof response to Drudge

from drudges own story:

"The International Atomic Energy Agency inspectors last saw the explosives in January 2003 when they took an inventory and placed fresh seals on the bunkers. "


so between then and when we ordered inspectors out and then visited they disappeared.

if we knew their location and failed to
1) SURVEIL them before the war & our occupation, and/or
2) SECURE them after,

its Bush's fault . period. above answers any timeline spinning on admins part. even if they were gone when we got there 1 day after war, we failed to keep track of known store of weapons. a basic failure.





http://drudgereport.com/nbcw.htm

[Silver Gaia]

7. ThankYou ThankYou ThankYou, Lynn,

for searching out all these great articles! I just used them to debunk and help sink a Freeper on another forum who was posting the Drudge shit like it was the gospel. :eyes: Thanks again, and thank you, DU'rs, for being here and working so hard. I've only been here a short time, but I am so thankful that you are here! I come here for a respite from all the CRAZINESS out there! Thank you ALL. :)

[BeatleBoot]

8. Kick !

:kick: :kick: :kick:

[Tsiyu]

9. 'Thank God for our troops"

even though Shrub was "not happy" about no WMD's!

[rodeodance]

10. Kerry in Wisconsin sticking to his story

Drats--on fox they missed kerrys opening of the speech.
But he is still saying that the explosives disappeared AFTER the invasion/
Fox cut in--saying that there are conflicking reports about whether or not the dangerous explosives were there when the military arrived.
This could be a real sour point for Kerry!!

Fox is saying that Bush is in the lead in Florida but chicago sun times reporter on saying it is still close.
latimes poll 48-Kerry and 48 Bush (gave others also--one with Kerry up by one point.). Asked if can have faith in these national polls---Sun Times reporter said no.

<<<<<<<.>>>>>>

......The report that tons of high explosives were missing from a depot in Iraq provided campaign ammunition Monday, with Kerry launching a blistering attack on Bush. The Democrat called it "one of the great blunders of Iraq and one of the great blunders of this administration."

Late Monday, the mystery took another twist -- NBC News, which had a crew embedded with the U.S. military during the invasion, reported that the material had already vanished by the time American troops arrived there on April 10, 2003, the day after Baghdad fell. (Report: Explosives already gone when U.S. troops arrived)......

"http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/26/election.main/index.html"
Campaigns work Wisconsin
A Tuesday focus on the economy, a key for Badger State voters
Tuesday, October 26, 2004 Posted: 9:52 AM EDT (1352 GMT) Tuesday, October 26, 2004 Posted: 9:52 AM EDT (1352 GMT)



(CNN) -- President Bush and Sen. John Kerry have returned to Wisconsin, a showdown state that may be becoming as important as the Big Three -- Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania.

Wisconsin went narrowly to Al Gore in 2000, and both parties are throwing vast resources into the state this year.

Bush, who polls show has a small lead in the Badger State, spent the night in LaCrosse and opened his campaign day Tuesday in Onalaska. He's also to speak in Richland Center at 12:30 p.m. He speaks at a rally in Cuba City at 3:45 p.m., then heads to Dubuque, Iowa, to speak at a rally at 6:30 p.m. before returning to the White House. (Showdown state Wisconsin)

[Texas_Dem]

11. Please don't confuse the poor little Freep's with the FACTS!

its hurts their brains.