DemocratSinceBirth
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:33 AM
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Bill Schneider Is Apologizing For His Own Polls... |
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Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 10:41 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
As a political scientist it's embarrassing for me to see a Harvard educated PHD do this...
He's basially saying the difference in the Gallup Poll and other polls is a function of their modeling and not an intentional bias...
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:33 AM
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1. what are you talking about, more explanation please |
DemocratSinceBirth
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:34 AM
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5. Why Gallup's Results Are Biased Toward Bush |
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:39 AM
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10. But Schneider doesn't do the polling, so don't know why he's |
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:43 AM
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12. He Vouches For Them Which Is Even Worse (NT) |
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:34 AM
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2. Unlike Bush, mere mortals have to own up to mistakes. Luckily, nobody |
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is ever punished for a mistake that is in Bush's favor.
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:34 AM
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3. Actually, it's hopeful |
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It's still pretty rare for an academic to admit his mistakes in public.
I admire that trait. I wish that more people could cultivate it.
--bkl
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:37 AM
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8. He's Not Admitting Anything... |
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He's spinning...
He's blaming it in the margin of error...
Why does the margin of error in the Gallup Poll consistently favor Bush?
The difference between the Gallup Poll and other polls is a function of Gallup's likely voter model which really belongs to antiquity...
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:53 AM
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13. Gallup (actually, it's his son) is a hard-ass Jeezer |
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He always spins toward the Right.
He claims his mission isn't to measure popular sentiment, but to spread the Gospel. How bearing false witness will accomplish that, I'm at a loss to explain.
Gallup is staying alive on the reputation the old man's name carries.
--bkl
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:34 AM
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4. elaboration would be nice |
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:35 AM
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That Gallup is full of it and he's sorry that CNN contracted with such an incompetent pollster and they'll never do it again?
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:36 AM
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DemocratSinceBirth
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:38 AM
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9. I Can't Read... I Can Only Write.... |
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The governor of my state during my formative years was a Republican....
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:40 AM
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11. He said "each poll is like taking a sample from a river" |
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The problem is that CNN/Gallup is taking its sample right at the sewer drain.
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:57 AM
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16. And I know the guy who takes the sewer sample: Art E. Fakt. |
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:evilgrin:
Welcome to DU, DCal!
:toast:
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:56 AM
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14. It's not Bill Schneider's poll |
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He doesn't make the call - he didn't hire Giddy-up.
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:58 AM
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If he was a man of integrity he would point out it's flaws and suffer the consequences...
There is always the possibility that their methodology is fine with him...
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Tue Oct-26-04 12:43 PM
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18. I'm not defending Schneider but |
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Gallup is CNN's deal not his.
Is he supposed to resign over it?
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Tue Oct-26-04 12:45 PM
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19. I Would Challenge The Results On Air... |
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but then I have a pair down there and that's why I'm not a right wing shill....
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Tue Oct-26-04 10:57 AM
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15. Not Intentional??? BULLSHIT!!! |
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Gallup is the enemy. They've been releasing these flawed polls at strategically important times for a few years now to prop up the Chimp when he needed it.
They are the enemy. Plain and simple.
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