I got a response from Lou Dobbs on my AlQaqaa email.

[ClassWarrior]

Dobbs, Lou wrote:

> don't you find the following sentence more interesting...?
>
> In February 2003, a month before the invasion, ElBaradei told the United Nations that Iraq had declared that "HMX previously under IAEA seal had been transferred for use in the production of industrial explosives."
>
> The Post report seems to have buried the lead...and you appear to have ignored it. But then perhaps you're more inclined to "Hard Copy". All the best. lou
>

I wrote back:

Thanks for replying, Lou.

So apparently somebody's not telling the truth. I guess it's time for you guys to do your jobs and start investigating. And stop shilling.

Peace,

(CW)

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[crispini]

1. LOL, you got flamed by Lou Dobbs!

Congratulations. He's legendary for his snippy email replies. I think it's a point of honor myself. I've never gotten one... I'm jealous. Guess I'm just not worthy yet.

[ClassWarrior]

4. It may have been the fact that I told CNN to look at the bright side...

Their credibility is at least slightly better than "Hard Copy's." LOL

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[GOPNotForMe]

2. Damn, he bitchy.

[papau]

3. Will US Media dare to report this AP Wire conjecture? Insurgents got 400T!

Will US Media dare to report this AP Wire conjecture? Insurgents got 400T!

Insurgents could possess up to 400 tons of the deadly materials often used in bombs

By William J. Kole, Associated Press

VIENNA, Austria -- The U.N. nuclear agency warned Monday that insurgents in Iraq may have obtained nearly 400 tons of missing explosives that can be used in the kind of car bomb attacks that have targeted U.S.-led coalition forces for months.
<snip>

The disappearance raised questions about why the United States didn't do more to secure the Al-Qaqaa facility 30 miles south of Baghdad and failed to allow full international inspections to resume after the March 2003 invasion.
<snip>

Al-Qaqaa is near Youssifiyah, an area rife with ambush attacks. An Associated Press Television News crew that drove past the compound Monday saw no visible security at the gates of the site, a jumble of low-slung, yellow-colored storage buildings that appeared deserted.
<snip>

Insurgents targeting coalition forces in Iraq have made widespread use of plastic explosives in a bloody spate of car bomb attacks. Officials were unable to link the missing explosives directly to the recent car bombings, but the revelations that they could have fallen into enemy hands caused a stir in the last week of the U.S. presidential campaign.
<snip>
http://www.trivalleyherald.com/Stories/0,1413,86~10669~2492592,00.html

[papau]

25. Josh Marshall posts interview NBC Producer embed - No Search

Josh Marshall posts interview NBC Producer embed - No Search


http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com /

Lai Ling Jew: When we went into the area, we were actually leaving Karbala and we were initially heading to Baghdad with the 101st Airborne, Second Brigade. The situation in Baghdad, the Third Infantry Division had taken over Baghdad and so they were trying to carve up the area that the 101st Airborne Division would be in charge of. Um, as a result, they had trouble figuring out who was going to take up what piece of Baghdad. They sent us over to this area in Iskanderia. We didn't know it as the Qaqaa facility at that point but when they did bring us over there we stayed there for quite a while. Almost, we stayed overnight, almost 24 hours. And we walked around, we saw the bunkers that had been bombed, and that exposed all of the ordinances that just lied dormant on the desert.

AR: Was there a search at all underway or was, did a search ensue for explosives once you got there during that 24-hour period?

LLJ: No. There wasn't a search. The mission that the brigade had was to get to Baghdad. That was more of a pit stop there for us. And, you know, the searching, I mean certainly some of the soldiers head off on their own, looked through the bunkers just to look at the vast amount of ordnance lying around. But as far as we could tell, there was no move to secure the weapons, nothing to keep looters away. But there was – at that point the roads were shut off. So it would have been very difficult, I believe, for the looters to get there.

AR: And there was no talk of securing the area after you left. There was no discussion of that?

LLJ: Not for the 101st Airborne, Second Brigade. They were -- once they were in Baghdad, it was all about Baghdad, you know, and then they ended up moving north to Mosul. Once we left the area, that was the last that the brigade had anything to do with the area.

AR: Well, Lai Ling Jew, thank you so much for shedding some light into that situation. We appreciate it.

[LynnTheDem]

5. Lou is MISLEADING you

IAEA in 2002 said 35 tonnes had been removed for industrial purposes by Iraq...but 380 tonnes were STILL THERE om March 9, 2003 WHEN IAEA DID THEIR FINAL INVENTORY.

So tell Dobbs to FO and EDUCATE HIMSELF on FACTS.

I'll be back in a min with a LINK to the IAEA and 35 tonnes.

[ClassWarrior]

6. Cool. I'll send it to him.

And since he hit "reply all" to all the other CNN shows I emailed, I'll return the favor.

:yourock:

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[Tim_in_HK]

11. Yeah . . .

CNN just reported this themselves (IAEI visited in March 2003).

[LynnTheDem]

15. LOU DOBBS IS AN IGNORANT AND WRONG ASSHOLE.

The nuclear agency pulled out of Iraq in 1998, and by the time it returned in 2002, it confirmed that 35 tons of HMX that had been placed under IAEA seal were missing.

HMX and RDX are the key components in plastic explosives, which insurgents have widely used in a series of bloody car bombings in Iraq.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6323933

35 tons were gone back in 2002.

BEFORE the US invaded.

And THEN the IAEA took an inventory March 9, 2003 and 377 tonnes of explosives were inventoried.

http://www.nti.org/d_newswire/issues/thisweek/2003_3_10_womd.html

And now AFTER the US invaded and FAILED TO SECURE AL QAQAA, THOSE 377 TONNES ARE MISSING.

[priapis]

27. Dobbs is on our side with many issues (like off-shoring)

just to point out, he is on our side on many things. dont know about this one, tho, havent watched him.

[ClassWarrior]

29. You're right. He is. And I've emailed him thanks on some of those...

But he's the one who answered back to challenge my blanket email to many CNN addresses. So the battle is engaged.

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[JusticeForAll]

7. Wow that is so cool!!

What did your original e-mail say? Can you repost it for us? I'm missing the context.

I would possibly respond in the next e-mail about how his show seems to be rivalling Hard Copy these days...and then coyly ask if CNN is trying to eat Fox's market share. Cheers, you F*g *wipe, Lou.

:)

[ClassWarrior]

9. Here ya go...

Dear CNN,

Are the only credible news sources the overseas ones? You've been attempting all day to curry favor with Karl Rove by implying that only the Kerry camp says the explosives were at Al Qaqaa post-invasion - when real news operations are crediting that bit of explosive news to a Pentagon official:

"At the Pentagon, an official who monitors developments in Iraq said US-led coalition troops had searched Al-Qaqaa in the immediate aftermath of the March 2003 invasion and confirmed that the explosives, which had been under IAEA seal since 1991, were intact. Thereafter the site was not secured by U.S. forces, the official said, also speaking on condition of anonymity."

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1098677410357

But look at the bright side - you're at least slightly more credible than "Hard Copy."

Peace,

(CW)

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[juliagoolia]

10. barbara star just said it was there in mar 2003 eom

[juliagoolia]

8. 32 tons.. 388 tons? how many tons

snip
We have also continued to investigate the relocation and
consumption of the high explosive HMX.

As I reported earlier, Iraq has declared that 32 tons of the HMX, previously under IAEA seals, had been transferred for use in the production of industrial explosives, primarily to cement plants as a booster for explosives used in quarrying.

snip

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/iraq/elb_2-14.html

Dont think he is talking about the same 370 tons of explosives do you??

[ClassWarrior]

12. Just sent this too...

One more thing, Lou. Don't fire the researchers just yet. Only 32 tons out of more than 370 were transferred for industrial purposes:

"As I reported earlier, Iraq has declared that 32 tons of the HMX, previously under IAEA seals, had been transferred for use in the production of industrial explosives, primarily to cement plants as a booster for explosives used in quarrying." - Mohamed ElBaradei

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/middle_east/iraq/elb_2-14.html

Peace,

(CW)

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[indie_voter]

14. Did you reply all? :) ps: Hats off to you and the rest of DU! You rock nt

[ClassWarrior]

20. Yup. "Reply all." Lou and I are spamming Paula Zahnow...

LOL

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[indie_voter]

22. Huzzah!!

You were very nice in your response after that snippy missive he sent you.

[ClassWarrior]

28. I'm glad you thought I was fair.

I couldn't resist a jab or two, tho. :evilgrin:

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[Mabus]

17. FYI: Mohamed ElBaradei statement to UN

Another area of focus has been to determine how certain other "dual use" materials have been relocated or used — that is, materials that could be used in nuclear weapons production but also have other legitimate uses. A good example is the Iraqi declaration concerning the high explosive "HMX" — which states that, out of the HMX under IAEA seals in Iraq at the end of 1998, some had been supplied to cement plants as an industrial explosive for mining. The whereabouts and final use of the removed material are matters that will require further investigation — although it will be difficult to verify the disposition of the HMX that is declared to have been used.

http://www.un.org/News/dh/iraq/elbaradei27jan03.htm

[LynnTheDem]

19. He is referrign to the missing in 2002, 35 tons

He said it would be hard to verify HOW Iraq actually used those 35 tons.

Then IAEA did another inventory check in March 2003 for 377 tons...the 3rd ID US military found explosives at Al QaQaa on April 4, 2003...but all those 377 tons are now missing.

[LynnTheDem]

18. 35 tons were gone back in 2002.

AFTER THAT, in March 2003, the IAEA did inventory and listed 377 tons remaining.

A few days later the UN was kicked out of Iraq & bush invaded.

And THOSE 377 tons are NOW MISSING.

[JusticeForAll]

13. OK explain the 24...

I'm normally pretty good at figuring these things out...I'm at a loss.

[ClassWarrior]

16. It was originally 23.

A reference to Kerry's speech about 23 different excuses for invading Iraq. But MallRat recently called my attention to a new one. Hence:

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[ClassWarrior]

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[progressivebydesign]

23. I was so angry about the spin today I wrote to Jordan Eason.

I found the email addy, and didn't know who he was. I got a personal reply from him, that was quite cordial, but still insisted that the NBC reporter stated that the munitions were missing when she was there. I sent the text of the transcript I read, that clearly states they were still there in April.

I'm quite polite, as I am in non-internet life, in my emails. That i why I usually get personal replies. I had no idea that Eason was a big wig there.. too funny. He was nice, but uninformed.

[in_cog_ni_to]

24. CW!!! You Rock!

:yourock:

[ClassWarrior]

26. Thanx in_cog...

:hi:

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