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MattNC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:35 PM
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Andrew Sullivan endorses Kerry
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shoelace414 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:36 PM
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1. knock me over with a feather.
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zoidberg Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:48 PM
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11. He also isn't happy with Iraq
He still supports the invasion, but he thinks the administration has been very incompetent in its handling of the occupation. He was outspoken against Abu Ghraib, too few troops, the growing insurgency and everything else that has gone wrong over there.

So it's seems that there are two fatal flaws to Bush:

1) He made the wrong choice to go into Iraq and shouldn't be re-elected.

or

2) He made the right choice to go into Iraq but he screwed it up so much that he shouldn't be re-elected.

It really doesn't get simpler than that.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:37 PM
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2. woa
:-)
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:38 PM
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3. *thud*
hey!!!

somebody help me get up off the floor!!!
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Bad Thoughts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:38 PM
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4. OMG!
What a turnaround.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:39 PM
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5. I was wondering...
Some more sane neo-cons have gone with Kerry, as they did Clinton in 1992. I think for Sullivan, though, the gay issue was of great importance. I do think that he would have gone with Kerry regardless of that though.
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:40 PM
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6. He felt very betrayed with the gay marriage issue. n/t
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:42 PM
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7. A real fool's fool. Until Bush impinged on his personal issues he was
happy to see the rest of us destroyed. Fuck him.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:45 PM
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9. We'll take EVERY VOTE
...even from one issue voters. He has been trending Kerry since the DOMA. This is not surprising at all.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:47 PM
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10. Agreed (though he's not a US citizen, so there's no vote to get)
I'm happier than not that he's endorsed Kerry, but it doesn't make me think any better of him.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:48 PM
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13. Oh YES HE IS!!!
He took the oath a few years ago...he is a blue passport boy now.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:49 PM
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17. That's odd... I thought I read him saying a few weeks ago he can't vote(?)
I've been wrong before...
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zoidberg Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:04 PM
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22. He lives in DC
So he might have been talking about how he doesn't have full voting rights.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:38 PM
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23. He calls himself an ANGLO-AMERICAN
Odds are good he kept his Brit, and is a dual.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:49 PM
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16. Isn't it sickening how the conservatives hang on his every word
and he isn't even an American?
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:50 PM
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between you and me, neither are they
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:38 PM
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24. But he is...see above n/t
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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:49 PM
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15. We all support who we do for "personal issues". So what?
:shrug:
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Killarney Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:44 PM
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8. kick
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eataTREE Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:48 PM
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12. He publicly renounced Bush over the Marriage Amendment.
So this isn't much of a surprise. Maybe, like Brock, he'll come to see that the Right Wing doesn't have his interests at heart.
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Fed Up Donating Member (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:49 PM
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14. i'm not surprised.... he's thrown hints for months.
A while back he suggested he would be forced to take a look at Kerry and the Democrats after Chimpie turned him off so much on social issues. I'll give him credit. All Bush offers is candy-coated shit.





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Not Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:50 PM
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18. He's a prissy little bitch
but I am glad he has come to his senses.
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kaitykaity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:50 PM
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19. I'm hoping somebody will post this elsewhere.

That site won't come up for me. :shrug:
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Buck Rabbit Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:01 PM
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21. Apparenty the you can't get to the New Replublic from
Portland this morning. I have tried thru links and directly addressing TNR with no luck.
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Sagan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 12:59 PM
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20. What a craptacular endorsement...


Essentially, he said that Chimpco was right to do what they did in Iraq, but now Kerry needs to come in and finish the job. And we don't have to worry about KERRY starting any wars, because Chimpy has fucked up this one so badly we don't the troops or the support to do anything.

Well, Sully, sounds like maybe the war was a freaking mistake in the first place.

His endorsement read like a clean-up list of chores that Kerry has to accomplish so that in 2008, another neo-con can be elected and do the whole Chimpco act over again.

Sully can take his endorsement and shove it up his ass.

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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:49 PM
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25. Well, that might win Kerry one extra vote...
...or maybe not, considering Andrew Sullivan is so influential it's not even sure he can influence Andrew Sullivan.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 01:49 PM
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26. Fascinating!
I guess we'll take it.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 02:09 PM
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27. So Sullivan has finally decided
to stop supporting an administration comprised almost entirely of individuals who wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. Genius, I tell you. Sheer genius.
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