Kerry released the new television ad on 380 tons of explosives in Iraq:

[Fluffdaddy]

http://www.johnkerry.com/video/102604_obligation.html


WASHINGTON, Oct. 26 /U.S. Newswire/ -- The Kerry-Edwards campaign released the new television ad "Obligation" Tuesday. Emphasizing that it is the obligation of a Commander-in-Chief to keep our country safe, the 30-second television spot focuses on George W. Bush's misjudgments that have put our soldiers at risk and made America less secure, including his failure to secure
"Obligation" will run in markets that Bush campaigns in this week. It can be viewed online at: http://www.johnkerry.com/video/102604_obligation.html

It is available today at 2:00 PM ET at the coordinates below.

[JuniorPlankton]

1. Way to go!

Fast and furious!

I like the actor in that ad! :)

[SoCalDemocrat]

57. Timeline

Timeline:

March 15 2003 : IAEA inspect Al Qaqaa site, seals intact
March 16 2003 : US Forces enter Iraq
March 21 2004:, 1st MEF, 5th Regimental Combat Team secured the gas oil separation plants (GOSPs), crude oil export facilities and oil wells in the Rumaylah Oil Fields
April 4 2003 : US Marines verify seals still intact

April 10 2003 : NBC with Army 101st fail to verify if weapons present
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/26/iraq.weapons.nbc.ap/index.html

Related:

May 1 2003 : Arkansas Nat Guard ordered to clean up looted ammo dump
http://times.discovery.com/convergence/offtowar/compare.html

[nostalgicaboutmyfutr]

2. good stuff...spread it around... eom

[Steelangel]

3. Excellent!

:thumbsup:

[whistle]

Great ad, like a fireside chat, Kerry people need more ads like that

about other issues, economy, jobs, heathcare, social security, deficits right up to election and beyond because KKKarl Rove will keep the attacks going all the way to the inauguration

[truthpusher]

4. Kerry looks great

[annerevere]

5. Geez, the Lockhart crew moves fast!

The adults are clearly in charge.

[Fluffdaddy]

6. The Freepers are Freaking out ............................LOL

[byronm]

27. Yes they are!

going nuts on all of the other forums.. they're trying to make it look like a CBS debacle

[cspiguy]

7. I have a bad feeling about this. Somewhere Rove is wringing

his hands saying, "Excellent, excellent"... If it is widely reported later this week that the munitions were gone when U.S. troops arrived, this will make Kerry look too eager to jump on it.

[Fluffdaddy]

11. If you have a bad feeling buy some Tums . This story is legit

Do not believe the Right wing Spin

[novadem]

12. I agree. I hope we didn't rush this thing out.

when was it filmed? Last night?

[Zero Gravitas]

13. Rove is not as smart as

he wants you to think he is.

[cubsfan forever]

41. True, Rove isn't as smart as he thinks he is

this story is terrible for Bunnypants no matter the outcome. Plus it has the added advantage of being true. A rove "trap" that shows Chimpy in a bad light no matter what? Uh, don't think so.

Professor 2

[russiamommy]

14. I don't agree

This story is deadly for Bush no matter what. Even if the explosives were gone by the time we got there, why haven't we been looking for them? We knew they were supposed to be there all along.

[byronm]

29. EXACTLY!!!

The simple fact we "lost" 760,000lbs of explosives that is on the black market or stashed somewhere is downright SCARY and proves with deep resolve that the world is far from being safer under the Bush presidency.

[jtb33]

38. Uh...

You see, that's the problem! This commercial was a bad move IMO. Why? Well, if the explosives missing is so important, what about missing WMD's that Saddam DID have? It makes us look contradictory and like hypocrites. :(

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

47. WRONG! These were explosives that the inspectors KNEW about

[Minimus]

49. Uh? Your point makes no sense

The issue is 'where are the weapons'

They are contradicting themselves by claiming that intelligence led them to believe there were WMDs yet they did not go into Iraq with enough troops to secure them let alone the other explosives.

It is obvious the bush team has sucked at everything to do with this war.

[JusticeForAll]

15. Nah the point is made

If we had let the inspectors do their jobs this would never have been an issue, period. Bush authorized the war, without allowing inspectors to complete their due diligence.

In Bush's big project of many many details this TIER 2 item of significance was clearly misprioritized and neglected.

If * ever had to go the boardroom, Trump would tell him "YOU'RE FIRED!"

Let's keep this story in the forefront and make sure * gets his pink slip.

[indie_voter]

16. That idea has been debunked

There are many threads here, on talkingpointmemo.com and misleader.org which show how desperate Sludge and his freeper friends are.

[slackmaster]

39. Regrettably I must join cspiguy in this minority opinion

If it looks like a trap, sounds like a trap, and smells like a trap then it's probably a trap.

I hope I'm wrong. If this is a Rove type trick using it as we are will backfire on us big time.

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

48. Rove isn't that smart. number one

Number two...this is just like the incident in Tawaitha (the previously sealed nuke facility) They secured the oil fields but NOT known weapons sites.

[belle]

60. It's too late for that, anyway. And you overestimate Rove.

[I Lean Left]

46. Who is going to contradict?

The administration has virtually no credibility left. Damage is done. If the rest of the week is spent trying to spin or debunk this, Bush loses the news cycle every night. He's out of time. His only hope is something distracting short attention span Americans.

[psychopomp]

50. Hi Conservative Spy Guy!

:freak: :hurts:

[RummyTheDummy]

59. Wrong

The damage has been done. John Q wont take the time to dig in and figure out who is right. With conflicting reports, who knows? And more to the point, who cares? Details Shmetails.

Kerry jumped on this early and it will be very helpful.

[Stockholm]

61. Rove is not half as smart as many here on DU

and remember:

You can´t con a honest man, you just can´t!

[JusticeForAll]

8. Boy oh boy - I hope they play this one to the hilt! n/t

[prodigal_green]

9. But where are the

scary animals? This isn't frightening unless you have some of our forest friends included in it. Where are the mountain lions? where are the chupacabras? </sarcasm>

[russiamommy]

10. Classy and on point...

[babylonsister]

17. Great-so presidential!

Now this man I believe!

[NewYorkerfromMass]

19. Really. Kerry passes the honesty test

at 101%.

[AnIndependentTexan]

18. Kerry isn't going to drop the ball

[Fluffdaddy]

20. Kerry:And now our kids are being killed with ammos right out of that dump.

From the Oct.8 Debate

Kerry: "The president did not do what was necessary. Didn't bring in enough nation. Didn't deliver the help. Didn't close off the borders. Didn't even guard the ammo dumps. And now our kids are being killed with ammos right out of that dump."

http://www.debates.org/pages/trans2004c.html



And now the chicken come home to roost

[Thrill]

21. Who cares what Rove says. Do like they do us

even if its not true keep running the ad. As long as the message is out there. true or not. Its powerful.

[novadem]

23. True or not? Did you really mean that?

[rl6214]

35. How can you say something like that?

That's exactly what Bush has been accused of, not admitting mistakes and being stubborn.

[AValdoux]

22. Other forgotten ammo dump

This is not the first ammo dump left unprotected. The third episode of "Off to War" on Discovery Times told of another one. The Arkansas National Guard deployed in Taji (the same location the fuel convoy refused to go) were sent to destroy ammunitions at a site May 2004. The troops were pretty upset because they saw where the mortars they had been hit with on a regular basis were coming from, an unguarded help yourself ammo dump. No attempt to clean it up had been made before they were sent in. It is mentioned on their timeline for the series.

http://times.discovery.com/convergence/offtowar/compare.html

First Post, I hope I got my link right

[freedom_to_read]

25. welcome to DU AValoux

:hi:

[AValdoux]

26. Thank you! My first post!!

Thanks for the nice welcome. I've being lurking for months. I live in Rural West Texas. This site is my link to sanity.

[rl6214]

36. Welcome Avaldoux

I too live in West Texas.

[byronm]

28. Welcome to DU

:)

[AValdoux]

31. Thanks for the welcome

If I keep replying to these nice welcomes, I'll get my post count higher.

[byronm]

45. :)

Are you a brave TX DU'er or just using the flag?

My mother is proudly supporting the democrats down in Houston and having a blast.

Take texas back!

[umtalal]

33. welcome to the DU, AValdoux.

I just wonder why they call themselves Generals???

[newyawker99]

37. Hi AValdoux!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[BootinUp]

24. I like my bush toast well done please

oh thank you! :)

[SoCalDemocrat]

30. Great work

They better not back down on thi sone.

There is some question as to when they went missing, but it's very likely it was during our invasion and not before.

CNN and the apologists are trying to spin damage control for Bush.

We need to emphasize the dates in March when it was confirmed the site was not tampered with.

We have the inspectors, the satellite photos, and our troops and a Pentagon source sayign we confirmed the site was sealed on invasion.

[nebula]

32. A distortion of NBC's reporting

CNN makes a mockery of broadcast journalism.




CNN) -- "The mystery surrounding the disappearance of 380 tons of powerful explosives from a storage depot in Iraq has taken a new twist, after a television news crew embedded with the U.S. military during the invasion of Iraq reported that the material could not be found when American troops arrived.

NBC News reported that on April 10, 2003, its crew was embedded with the U.S. Army's 101st Airborne Division when troops arrived at the Al Qaqaa storage facility south of Baghdad.

While the troops found large stockpiles of conventional explosives, they did not find HMX or RDX, the types of powerful explosives that reportedly went missing, according to NBC.

The International Atomic Energy Agency revealed Monday that it had been told two weeks ago by the Iraqi government that 380 tons of HMX and RDX disappeared from Al Qaqaa after Saddam Hussein's government fell.

In a letter to the IAEA dated October 10, Iraq's director of planning, Mohammed Abbas, said the material disappeared sometime after Saddam's regime fell in April 2003, which he attributed to "the theft and looting of the governmental installations due to lack of security."

Baghdad fell on April 9, 2003. According to NBC, troops from the 101st Airborne arrived the next day and could not find the material."

[A Brand New World]

34. The Kerry campaign has done a great job with their ads -

getting them out in a timely manner and with such a variety. No one has time to get tired of seeing a particular ad before they start with a new one. Whoever they have in charge of advertising has done a marvelous job.

[Clinton Crusader]

40. I saw on a news ticker an NBC reporter embedded said

the stuff was THERE when they arrived and NO ONE seemed concerned about it, nor did anyone suggest or was it even a conversation with ANYONE that it be guarded.

Is this the same "NBC" story that being spun, mutilated and contorted by the Rovians??

:kick:

[rot0r_head]

42. SLAM!

And, with that, Big John puts out a cigarette in the GOP's eye.

I'm liking the straightforward style of this advertisement. It's much more powerful than the obnoxious Bush ads, which sometimes look like expensive Powerpoint Presentations "intellectualized" with British voiceovers. Although I can hardly blame them. The last time Bush tried to put out an honest advertisement his wife was so heavily Xanaxed she might as well have had woodpeckers drilling holes in her skull.

Letting the candidate actually talk about an issue beats the "I'm xxx and I approved this message" addendum any day.

[milkyway]

43. It's amazing he looks so good after a year of campaigning.

[vademocrat]

44. Another reason I give the Dems more money with each email they send

They're using the money so effectively this year. I know all our little contributions are adding up & making a BIG difference in this campaign.

GOTV=Kerry Landslide

[sharman]

51. Whenever the looting took place

there is no doubt that the Admin made no effort to look for it or to secure it. Saying, oh well, it was already gone (if true--that probably a lie), does not excuse the fact that they had no plan, made no effort, did nothing, to deal with it responsibly.

Now the oil fields and the oil ministry, that's a whole other priority.

[Name removed]

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[dennis4868]

53. what are you talking about?

The explosives were there after we invaded Iraq. They were there for sure on April 4th....NBC is backing off from their story that the explosives were not there on April 10 with the 101st Airborne was there for a "pitstop."

[Name removed]

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[stevietheman]

56. CNN backed off the story too

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/10/26/iraq.weapons.nbc.ap/index.html

[LVdem]

55. He's our man...nt

[cheshire]

58. They sure are quik, He looked like the President. Great job JK