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hope42mro Donating Member (175 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:36 PM
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HELP! My dad's undecided, but might vote Kerry if....
he knew who Kerry would have on his cabinet.

Tell me, do you know who Kerry will probably pick for these position:

Sec. of State?
Sec. of Environment?
Sec. of Defense?
Sec. of Energy?

My dad voted for Bush last time, although he really preffered McCain,because he supported the gov.program my dad headed and because Powell was his Sec. of State. But now that he's retired and Powell is resigning he's undecided. He says he be more likely to vote Kerry/Edwards if he knew who Kerry will put on his cabinet.

-What should I tell him?

Thanks for your help.
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LuminousX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:37 PM
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1. No one knows yet
But you can see the type of people he has chosen to surround himself with in his campaign.
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:38 PM
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2. Tell him McCain Secretary of Defense. That should hook him,
and if I'm wrong, have him call me to yell at me.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:39 PM
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4. I think thats likely to be Sen. Levin
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:39 PM
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Yea, but dad likes McCain
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flyingfysh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:39 PM
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3. Max Cleland as head of VA
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:03 PM
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20. Max Cleland will definitely have a spot.
And he damn well deserves it! He's a fighter and we need more of that in our party.
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Sparkly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:39 PM
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5. Ask him who he'd like to see in Kerry's cabinet
and then confirm "that's a distinct possibility."
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usregimechange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:39 PM
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6. The washington post did an article on this a few days ago. nt
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intheflow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:50 PM
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16. Link to WP article
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:39 PM
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7. Sec of State
is probably going to be Richard Holbrooke
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:39 PM
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8. The only concrete thing Kerry has said for himself
is that he wants women, minorities, and at least one or two REPUBLICANS. All else is speculation. But perhaps knowing Kerry wants some Republicans in there with him will help.
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ciaobox Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:40 PM
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9. A VERY Educated Guess
Bob Rubin will replace Greenspan or be brought back at Treasury Secretary
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:40 PM
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10. your dad is undecided?
he deserves another 4 years of smirky
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:43 PM
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13. But we don't!
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WestHoustonDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:41 PM
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11. How about..
Sec. of State: Richard Holbrook
Sec. of Environment: Robert Kennedy, Jr.
Sec. of Defense: Wesley Clark
Sec. of Energy: ?
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:43 PM
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12. Here's a recent piece on this...
The National Journal's Carl Cannon on a Kerry cabinet:

http://www.warandpiece.com/blogdirs/001248.html
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fryguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:47 PM
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14. just a thought
Sec. of State -- someone who understands the need for diplomacy
Sec. of Environment -- someone who understands the need not to clear cut the forests and return to the smog filled days of the 1970s
Sec. of Defense -- someone not a neocon warmongerer
Sec. of Energy -- someone who understands the need to develop new, alternative fules and isn't a former oil/gas executive

tell your dad that voting for bush again will get us involved in even more pre-emptive wars; will make us an even greater pariah in the international community; will increase the derisive nature of our country; will line the pockets of oil and drug corporations at the expense of our natural resources and health of our citizens; will fundamentally change the structure of social security (think S&L disaster at a monumental scale); will usher in decades of a conservative-activist supreme court - and who knows what liberties and hard won rights they'll roll back.......
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:49 PM
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15. Would he like the fact that "they" think he will appoint one or two
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 08:50 PM by Pirate Smile
Republicans to his Cabinet? Maybe Lugar or Hagel.

The "they" is the pundits, "experts" from a discussion of his governing style on Cspan last week.

I heard Holbrook doesn't want Sec of State, maybe NSA instead. Biden for Sect. of State.
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Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:58 PM
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17. When Kerry was on Imus, he mentioned McCain as possible Sec of Def.
I think Joe Biden could be Secretary of State, if he wants it.

Max Cleland at Homeland Security.

Wes Clark as National Security Advisor.

Bob Graham at CIA

The rest? Who knows. But, John Kerry, as a Washington insider, has an advantage of having worked with and observed a lot of the players and would have good, solid judgment about who would excel in leadership positions.

John Kerry is a thoughtful and reasonable man. (BTW, I think John McCain is secretly pulling for Kerry.)
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alcuno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 08:58 PM
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18. Isn't it enough to know he'll replace the incompentent with the competent?
I mean there are so many competent people to choose from, only * would pick such a bunch of losers.

Condi Rice - Remember he put her in charge of Iraq when she is an "expert" on the Soviet Union. It's gone and it's been gone.
Cheney - "We don't need to have the counter-terrorism task force meet, we're busy looting the Treasury."
Rumsfeld - "The Iraqis are not looting, they're acting free."
Snow - How is that job market doing?
Powell - I'm sorry, but the guy hates to fly. Not the right person for Secretary of State.
Thompson - shortage of flu vaccine LAST year and no plan for this year.
Tenet - Yeah, Clinton appointed him, but when he showed incompetence, * should have fired him.

I'm sorry, but there are so many competent people to choose from. Biden, McCain, Luger, my mom.....

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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:01 PM
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19. Do you know who he likes?
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 09:01 PM by calico1
If so just tell him they will be in the Cabinet! After he votes it doesn't matter. Just say you were misled by some people on some dumb message board! :D
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:04 PM
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21. first TELL DAD ,POWELL ISN'T RESIGNING, OLD SOLDIERS
Edited on Tue Oct-26-04 09:05 PM by THEHURON57
Never die, they just get sick of working for idiots.The Kerry camp was the first in history, to propose a bipartisan ticket.this is what we need now.Fuck the notion of always appointing senators and Friends to the cabinet.lets try expertise.In a perfect world with no supreme court,ROBERT KENNEDY J.R SEC. OF ENVIRONMENT Ralph Nader sec. of energy,AL gore sec. of state first ask john McCain then appoint JOE BYDEN SEC OF DEFENSE.
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Doohickie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:05 PM
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22. How bout this guy for Education:
Michael Gurian:

"...an educator, family therapist and author of fourteen books, including the best selling The Wonder of Boys, A Fine Young Man, and The Good Son. He is an internationally celebrated speaker and writer whose work has been featured in the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal... and other national publications..."

(From one of his book jackets)

My wife, who will finish her degree and begin teaching next year, has read several of his books and thinks he's really got it figured out. I think it might be good to have a REAL educator doing it for a change.
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bushwakker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-26-04 09:05 PM
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23. intelligent, rational, competent human beings
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