58,000 ABSENTEE BALLOTS MISSING IN FORT ...

[steve2470]

LAUDERDALE...per WPLG in Miami. Post Office says NOT lost in mail. Elections office has to MAIL them out again. The news source is CNN Aaron Brown show, who got it from WPLG.
edited for completeness

[BayCityProgressive]

1. How sickening

I am getting really pessimistic about the election and all elections in the US for that matter.

[steve2470]

24. kick nt

[steve2470]

2. kick nt

[steve2470]

3. kick nt

[indigo32]

4. Geez

:grr:

[asjr]

5. I wonder if the post office can verify they were delivered to

the elections office. If so, that office is in deep doo doo. Is Ft. Lauderdale repub country?

[steve2470]

8. no, very democratic nt

[coreystone]

35. No! Not unless they were sent "certified" or someother....

signable or trackable USPS option for the sender.

:-(

[TexasSissy]

6. As I've said many times before, when the gov & prez own a state,

like Florida, they will win that state in an election. They own the Sec of State, who runs the election process, as well as the majority of the elections officials.

[Doohickie]

7. Yeah... honor...

honor and integrity....


yeah.....


Right.

[TexasSissy]

36. I hope I'm wrong. I hope. Or that the Dems can stop the fraud. I hope.

If not, I think that the Bush camp will do anything (read that ANYTHING) to ensure they win Florida.

[SW FL Dem]

9. Unbelieveable! TG it was caught in time n/t

[liberal N proud]

10. kick

[steve2470]

11. Local 10 Uncovers Big Ballot Mystery

http://www.local10.com/politics/3854230/detail.html


BROWARD COUNTY, Fla. -- Local 10 has received many phone calls from viewers in Broward County who say they have not received the absentee ballots –- and the news from the elections office doesn't sound good.

Local 10 has learned that many as many as 58,000 ballots that were supposed to mailed out on Oct. 7 and 8 could be missing.

The Broward County Supervisor of Elections office is saying only that the situation is "unusual," and they are looking into it.

Gisela Salas, Broward Deputy Elections Supervisor, said, "I hate to say 'missing' at this time because that has not yet be substantiated. Some ballots are starting to arrive. But there is an extraordinary delay."
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[MattP]

13. Out of country

Alot of people who are anti shrub are out of country or college kids so they're SOL, and you know how hood is going to rule. These people will do anything!! to steal this election.

[steve2470]

15. on the phone for mike maloy right now - on hold nt

[steve2470]

21. just got off phone with mike malloy...so now maybe the national

media will pick this up...that was cool.

[GreenPartyVoter]

12. Well. I guess we can write off Fla

x(

unless the media holds their feet to the fire on this and don't let the junta get away with it.

[KittyWampus]

17. Perhaps We Should Invalidate The Entire State's Electoral Votes

If the Governor and Secretary of State and Elections Officers can't get their shit together... than why should ANY Floridian votes count?

[nolabels]

41. In a winner take all,l it still might, regardless

Kerry picking up a lot of the west, and one or two swings Gore missed could do it. Not dismissing Florida, but recognizing and cutting loss is how you win

[yardwork]

18. I have Kerry winning 338 EV to shrub's 200 without Florida

If we actually get an honest vote out of Florida it will be icing on the cake. Kerry is going to win in a landslide.

[GreenPartyVoter]

20. From your mouth to God's ear! (And the same for my plea for Kerry

to adopt Kucinich's platform after he wins. ;) )

[enough]

14. kick (nt)

[steve2470]

16. kick nt

[DemFromMem]

19. Silver lining

This kind of crap is only getting Democrats pissed off big time. Everytime a story like this makes the news, it probably has the effect of getting even more people voting. I think we're going to see a massive turnout that even Jeb can't stop.

[MassLiberal]

22. kick n/t

[steve2470]

23. kick nt

[Norquist Nemesis]

25. Remind me again...is this a Dem district?

Sorry, I have a hard time keeping track of which is what where. :freak:

The first thing I thought of though...weren't the Republicans encouraging their people to vote absentee?

[steve2470]

26. it is very democratic - don't know about the 2nd question nt

[Norquist Nemesis]

27. Crap!

Why did I even wonder?

I do NOT want to live through another 2000 debacle with Florida (and a whole bunch of other states!!)!!! Dammit!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[steve2470]

29. do not fret too much, now the national media via Mike Maloy

knows all about it. I am confident that this time, the DNC and JK will thwart any funny business.

[LiberalFighter]

28. How do they know which 58,000 ballots are missing?

Is that most of them or a portion of them?

[steve2470]

30. I am not sure , go to the web page

it is:

http://www.local10.com/politics/3854230/detail.html

[steve2470]

31. kick nt

[brooklynite]

37. MY guess is...

When the press started inquiring about the complaints, the Election office said "we prepared 58,000 ballots and sent them to the Post Office", and the PO said "no you didn't"

[steve2470]

32. Broward officials blame U.S. Postal Service over missing ballots

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald/news/politics/10022946.htm?1c


FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. - Broward County officials blamed the U.S. Postal Service Tuesday for misplacing nearly half of the absentee ballots requested in the county, as frustrated voters trying to find out what happened overwhelmed phone lines at the elections office.

The Postal Service denied responsibility for the missing ballots, but Broward officials said they sent about 58,000 ballots more than two weeks ago, on Oct. 7-8. As of Tuesday, 126,220 absentee ballots had been requested.

"That is something beyond our control," Deputy Supervisor of Elections Gisela Salas told the South Florida Sun-Sentinel. "We really have no idea what's going on. It's just taken an extraordinary amount of time. I would really encourage people to use early voting."

"We have employees that we assign to handle the absentee ballots that come in," said Enola C. Rice, spokeswoman for the Postal Service's South Florida District. "So all the absentee ballots that are received by the postal service are processed and delivered immediately."

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[dolstein]

34. There is only one reasonable solution

Broward County should be required to re-send, via overnight mail, EVERY SINGLE ABSENTEE BALLOT. That is the ONLY way to make sure that everyone who requested an absentee ballot gets one. It should not be up to the individual voters to make an additional absentee ballot request, because it is obvious that Broward County does not have sufficient staff or phone lines to handle the request.

Second, because the mailings of absentee ballots were unreasoanbly delayed, they county could be required to county any absentee ballot as long as it was POSTMARKED by election day.

If the Florida Democratic Party and the Kerry Campaign fail to go to court first thing in the morning and seek a judicial decree ordering the Broward County elections office to send out new absentee ballots, then shame on them.

Needless to say, anyone in Ft. Lauderdale who hasn't received an absentee ballot so use early voting.

[nolabels]

42. Messing with the mail is a crime

https://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud/MailFraudComplaint.htm

[Gyre]

49. Wouldn't it be funny if the USPS

was involved in stealing votes for *? Think the USPS is up for a little civil war? I can see em now in little cammo shorts, pith helmets and white tube socks. That would be cute.

Gyre

[steve2470]

33. kick, good night, nt

[Synnical]

38. Fort Lauderdale Newspaper Article

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-cvoting27oct27,0,5500813.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines


The Broward County Supervisor of Elections Office pointed a finger at the U.S. Postal Service on Tuesday for nearly 60,000 missing absentee ballots, but took the blame for having a phone system that was being overwhelmed by calls from frustrated voters.

While the post office denied responsibility for the missing ballots, Broward County commissioners, anxious to avoid another failed election, offered to send county employees to help with the phones. Dozens of employees could begin assisting the elections office today to answer telephone calls and to process voters at the 14 early voting sites.

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Those living out of town can call Broward election officials and request another ballot, which officials said will be sent through overnight mail.

[milkyway]

43. Jeb only had four years to fix the problems. It's hard work.

[WI_DEM]

39. Good Grief, Let's send election monitors into Florida led by

Jimmy Carter

[cmayer]

51. Jimmy Carter says "No way!"

US election methods fail international standards. It's not possible to certify a fair election.

I don't have the link, but he was interviewed on Fresh Air.

[Killarney]

40. Broward County = nearly 70% Dem in 2000 election

Bush 177,902 --- Gore 387,703
http://www.unknownnews.net/election2000.html

[Maylee]

44. This needs more coverage! NT

[Jack Rabbit]

45. Bush will be unique

He'll be the first to sit in the Oval Office for eight years without winning an election.

[Citizen Jane]

46. Kicking for coverage (n/t)

:kick:

[Mandate My Ass]

47. 2000 Election: Broward County 67% voted Gore

It is only a coincidence that the voters there are in the process of being disenfranchised. No criminal intent here. Nosiree.

[Jack Rabbit]

48. BBC Link

From the BBC Online
Dated Thursday October 28 08:48 GMT (1:48 am PDT)

Florida ballot papers go missing

Tens of thousands of postal ballots have gone missing in the US state of Florida, sparking fresh concern over irregularities in the poll campaign.
Some 60,000 absentee ballots were despatched by authorities in Broward County, north of Miami, this month.

However, only 2,000 of them have been delivered.

Florida was the centre of controversies which delayed the result in 2000, with George W Bush eventually declared the winner in the state by 537 votes.

Once again, to find out what is happening in America, one must look to the British press.

For decades, the BBC has been a traditional source of news and information for those living in places deprived of a free and independent press. That is why this American living in the age of Bush and corporatism turns to the BBC Online.

[Jack Rabbit]

50. Bump

:bounce:

Let's strike a blow for democracy!!