OneBlueSky
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Wed Oct-27-04 02:37 AM
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my brother-in-law says he's voting for Bush . . . so I got pissed off . . |
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this is a guy who sits around all day watching cable news, and he believes everything he hears . . . he thinks the media is liberal, the Democrats are trying to steal the election, and John Kerry's heroism in Vietnam is phoney . . . so I decided to send him some resources, along with a note that talked about how his two kids will likely end up in uniform in some desert if Bush isn't removed from office . . . . see what you think . . . suggestions for additions are welcome . . .I. Why You Should Vote Against George Bush Just So You Knowhttp://home.earthlink.net/~robx/Bush/Bush.html The Case Against George W. Bush by Ron Reaganhttp://www.esquire.com/features/articles/2004/040729_mfe_reagan_1.html George W. Bush - The One and Onlyhttp://www.hyperreal.org/~mikew/bush.html PeskyFacts.comhttp://www.peskyfacts.com/ Five Reasons That Bush Deserves to Lose (Again)http://www.rabble.ca/columnists_full.shtml?x=30868 100 Facts and 1 Opinion: The Non-Arguable Case Against George W. Bushhttp://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041108&s=facts One Thousand Reasons To Vote Against George W. Bushhttp://www.thousandreasons.org/listB.html Why Conservatives Must Not Vote For Bushhttp://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/09/10/conservatives/index.html(if not a member, have to watch an ad to access the story) Bush Supporters are Uninformedhttp://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Pres_Election_04/html/new_10_21_04.html Has Bush Lost His Reason?http://observer.guardian.co.uk/comment/story/0,6903,1329254,00.html BushWatch - Bush Lieshttp://www.bushwatch.com/bushlies.htm High Plains Grifter: The Life and Times of George W. Bush Part One - The Ties That Bindhttp://www.counterpunch.org/stclair08312004.htmlPart Two - Mark His Wordshttp://www.counterpunch.org/stclair09012004.htmlPart Three - More Pricks Than Kickshttp://www.counterpunch.org/stclair09032004.htmlPart Four - Jesus Told Him Where to Bombhttp://www.counterpunch.org/stclair09032004.htmlPart Five - Bush's Mask of Anarchyhttp://www.counterpunch.org/stclair09182004.htmlCoda - The House Ruleshttp://www.counterpunch.org/stclair09222004.html II. Why You Should Vote for John Kerry (small sampling) Republicans for Kerryhttp://www.republicansforkerry04.org/ Veterans United for Kerryhttp://www.veteransunitedforkerry.com/vote/index.php 12 Generals and Admirals Endorse Kerryhttp://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=34048 9/11 Widows Join Kerry Campaignhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/uselections2004/story/0,13918,1304878,00.html?79%3A+International+news+-+guardian Christians for Kerryhttp://www.christians4kerry.com/ Firefighters for Kerryhttp://www.firefightersforkerry.com/ Labor (AFL/CIO) for Kerryhttp://www.firefightersforkerry.com/ League of Conservation Voters for Kerryhttp://www.lcv.org/Campaigns/Campaigns.cfm?ID=2701&c=4 Business Leaders for Kerryhttp://www.sptimes.com/2004/08/05/Business/Business_leaders_for_.shtml III. Why You Can't Trust the American Media Who Controls the Media?http://www.nowfoundation.org/issues/communications/tv/mediacontrol.html Media Transparency: The Money Behind the Mediahttp://www.mediatransparency.org/ Fairness and Accuracy in Reporting: Election 2004http://www.fair.org/issues-news/election.html TV New Lieshttp://tvnewslies.org/index.html Information Clearinghouse: News You Won't Find on CNN or FOXNewshttp://www.informationclearinghouse.info/ Media Matters for Americahttp://mediamatters.org/ Media Keeps Voters In Dark: The Top 25 Censored Storieshttp://www.populist.com/04.18.censored.html IV. How the Republicans Intend to Steal the Election Voter Registration Fraud Clearinghousehttp://www.dkosopedia.com/index.php/Voter_Registration_Fraud_Clearinghouse Black Box Voting (Touchscreen Voting Machines)http://www.blackboxvoting.org Voting Systems, Organizations and Companieshttp://www.ecotalk.org/VotingMachineCompanies.htm V. Deep Background: What It All Means (Fascism, PNAC, Christian Reconstructionism, Dominionism, etc.) When Fascism Comes to Americahttp://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/09/far04031.html What Is Fascism?http://www.couplescompany.com/Features/Politics/Structure3.htm Wake Up and Smell the Fascismhttp://www.oldamericancentury.org/14pts.htm How We Got Into This Imperial Pickle: A PNAC Primerhttp://www.crisispapers.org/Editorials/PNAC-Primer.htm Sorrows of Empirehttp://www.presentdanger.org/papers/sorrows2003.html Far Graver Than Vietnamhttp://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1305441,00.html Bring Them Home Nowhttp://bringthemhomenow.com/ On A Mission From God: The Religious Right and the Emerging American Theocracyhttp://www.buzzflash.com/farrell/04/03/far04007.html The Despoiling of America: How George W. Bush Became the Head of the New American Dominionist Church/Statehttp://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm(this is the most important article on this list)
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Elwood P Dowd
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Wed Oct-27-04 02:40 AM
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1. You sent him too much shit. |
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Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 02:41 AM by Elwood P Dowd
A republican can only digest a couple of links a day.
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Wed Oct-27-04 02:42 AM
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2. He has 6 days left. Shh. |
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Wed Oct-27-04 02:50 AM
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I would start with the Republicans for Kerry stuff, myself. Let conservatives speak to conservatives. The yahoo group, the editorial from Charlie Reese if you can find it, stuff like that.
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OneBlueSky
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Wed Oct-27-04 03:13 AM
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9. yeah, I know it's too much . . . my thought was . . . |
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that just the sheer quantity of information might say something, and maybe induce him to click on one or two links . . . he honestly believes that everyone's in favor of Bush, so the inundation was intentional . . . I know I won't change his mind, but I wanted him to know that his viewpoint isn't the only one, not by a long shot . . .
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Wed Oct-27-04 03:20 AM
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I find that even faced with facts, they don't process them. Totally brainwashed.
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Wed Oct-27-04 02:46 AM
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http://www.bushrelativesforkerry.com/pages/1/index.htm(Because I am ALSO related to Bush and I would certainly NEVER vote for him either.)
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Wed Oct-27-04 06:17 AM
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18. Sent you a PM - I have a question! :) n/t |
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Wed Oct-27-04 02:48 AM
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4. Don't forget the economy |
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Wed Oct-27-04 02:53 AM
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6. I'm bookmarking this thread. |
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Wed Oct-27-04 02:53 AM
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7. It's always worth a try, but my experience tells me you're wasting... |
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your time. People like your brother-in-law are living in a bizarre universe and generally can't be reasoned with regardless of the proof at hand. I've been having nearly the exact same discussions with most of my family and I'm resigned to the fact they're a lost cause. I still love 'em all the same, but I doubt I'll be spending a lot of time around them over the next several weeks.
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Wed Oct-27-04 03:08 AM
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8. I agree, my Father is the same way. |
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My Father is retired and in between golfing and fishing he watches FOX. When the Iraq war started, my Dad and I got on the subject of politics. I let him know how I felt and he said that we were lucky to have * in the White House because otherwise "we'd all be kneeling and praying to mecca by now".
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Wed Oct-27-04 03:40 AM
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12. I Have a Friend Whose Mind Was Taken Over By Faux... Very Sad Situation |
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This is someone who really should know better. That Faux propaganda is the most irresistable brainwashing agent known to man. Nothing seems to have any effect once they are exposed to enough of it.
As far as I know, there is no cure.
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OneBlueSky
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Wed Oct-27-04 03:15 AM
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10. oh, I know I won't change his mind . . . |
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but he's convinced that Kerry supporters are a small minority, that Bush is the only choice, and that there are no good arguments to the contrary . . . I just wanted to disabuse him of that particular notion . . .
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Wed Oct-27-04 04:01 AM
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14. I've noticed this as well... |
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...the mindset that the Kerry supporters are a small minority. This is an obvious sign that they've been watching FOX news. FOX makes it seem like there are only a few "sane" democrats out there, while the rest of them are wild eyed, druggie, psychos who showed their insanity by protesting at the Republican National Convention.
Wait till Kerry wins this election, they'll realize that they're the minority.
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Wed Oct-27-04 03:57 AM
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13. Republican arguments against Bush. Maybe that will get his attention. |
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Republican Switchers http://inprogress.typepad.com/republicanswitchers/ Angry Hill Republicans say Bush is screwing his own party http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi?archive=14&num=1846All Republicans Against Bush Meetup Groups http://repagainstbush.meetup.com/Republicans for kerry http://www.republicansforkerry.org/Republicans for Kerry http://groups.yahoo.com/group/republicansforkerry04/He's going throught a lot right now, and it might help him to see that there plenty of Republicans that feel the same way he does.
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Wed Oct-27-04 05:25 AM
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16. wow- impressive list, but don't expect too much |
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a wooden head is a wooden head
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Wed Oct-27-04 05:30 AM
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17. Don't be disappointed. People I know voting Bush are completely |
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loyal to the point of it being pathological. I honestly think the guy could grow horns, cloven feet, and sacrifice a virgin on the steps of the White House and these idiots I work with would still bow down to the man. It's unbelievable, and the lies they tell about Kerry are REALLY unbelievable. Every time I give them something disputing what they have heard, they blow me off. Say, "Of course YOU think this is a lie - you support Kerry." The only sources they believe are the Bush team and Faux.
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Wed Oct-27-04 06:22 AM
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19. Go to the Army website and sign his kids up for "more information"... |
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...that should get his attention.
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OneBlueSky
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Wed Oct-27-04 12:50 PM
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20. kick . . . for the day crew . . . n/t |
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Wed Oct-27-04 12:52 PM
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21. Beautiful! I'm going to borrow it. Thank you!!! nt |
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Wed Oct-27-04 01:04 PM
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22. No, he doesn't believe "everything he hears" or else he would know that |
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Bush is a liar. He would also believe that Bush is a poor leader and that Bush mishandled the Iraq invasion. You brother only believe what he wants to believe like so many dim-witted Americans.
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