Kerry/Nader Alliance?

[eridani]

A rumor from an email. Can anyone confirm or disconfirm? IMO, this sounds a lot like a fantasy of what we'd like to hear from Nader. I have no idea who the Internet Underground Network is.

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE!
Internet Underground Network 10-27-04

A confidential disclosure from within the Kerry campaign confirmed a rumor Monday that Ralph Nader will "have an open welcome at the White House" when Kerry is elected. The rumor hit the internet when one of Fox News network's infamous "daily bulletins" warned its affiliates this past week to give no credibility to a "dangerous rumor" of a possible Kerry-Nader alliance.

A Kerry campaign source said that both John Kerry and John Edwards consider Nader to be a genuine American hero, "without whom car safety standards would never have been made a priority." The Kerry camp considers Nader's warnings about corporate corruption "have been manifest in the worst possible way by the Bush administration."

Kerry is considering Nader for an advisory position in his White House, possibly at the cabinet level.

Asked whether this leak is simply a political ploy to garner more votes, the Kerry source said that Americans "should know the core ethics of a Kerry-Edwards administration will be fundamentally opposed to those of George Bush. Ralph Nader is one of the most educated and experienced advocates in the country, and with his help, we aim to fight the corporate corruption which now undermines our economy."

A spokesperson for the Nader campaign welcomed the idea of a Nader role within the Kerry administration, saying "that would fulfill everything Ralph has been fighting to achieve in the past two campaigns."

[libbygurl]

1. No idea about veracity, but would Nader please explain his

whorish acceptance of blatant financial support from the Republican richie rich guys?

[pabloseb]

2. I don't give any credit to this

Nader won't be much of a factor this year. And an alliance with Nader could scare off more moderates than the liberales it would bring to Kerry's camp.

[Sirveri]

3. Pbft

The jerkoff was practically offered it on a silver platter a week before the 2000 election and didn't take it. He didn't want to let the kids down who supported him or whatever. Whatever, he's a egotistical shill of the repuke party who doesn't give a damn about anyone anymore and I hope that this is nothing more than a rumour to poach even more votes away from him that would be cast by people stupid enough to vote for him.

[mrbill]

4. i have a dream.......

Nader goes on TV Monday before the election and says, "Ok people, listen up. There's a lot of problems with the two party system, this corporate thing is out of control and the media sucks. But for now let's put this aside and all go vote for that nice John Kerry. Because if we don't we're all totally screwed."

on edit: a dream is not often reality. just hoping for the best from my fellow man.

[punpirate]

5. This is nothing but disinformation....

If Nader really wanted a voice in the new administration, he wouldn't be spending so much time, effort and Republican money to act as a spoiler to Kerry's campaign.

This is meant to portray Nader as the ultra-liberal and consummate trial lawyer and to tie Kerry to him.

No way, Jose.

All references to this story seem to originate from one source--World News Network, which is hardly a reputable source.

If this gets picked up tomorrow by the whores in the mainstream media, I think you can figure out the source--the WH.

[bushisanidiot]

6. Let Nader in the White House so he can work for repukes from the inside??

i say no.

he's made it well known which side his bread is buttered on.

[IronLionZion]

7. I'll believe it when I see it

meanwhile, I'll support the guy endorsed by Dennis Kucinich and Howard Dean, and definitely not the guy endorsed by Saudi Arabia, Iran, and Al Qaeda.

[BeatleBoot]

8. I'll see it when I believe it

:evilgrin:

[LimpingLib]

9. Nader bent over backwards for Kerry/Edwards this whole campaign.

He endorced basicaly all but endorced Kerry long ago when Kerry was frontrunner (when Dean was gainning steam Nader said some extremely positive things about Kerry , not mentioning his severe downsides)then after Kerry won and Nader realized that the elite foreign policy establishment in the Democratic party was all over the hawk Edwards, Nader started horrid Pro Edwards propaganda (really pissed me off BIG TIME too)and defended him all through the summer.

Nader refused to attack the policy positions of the ticket even when Ken Stars firm was being hired by Democrats in Ohio to disenfranchise progressive voters from having a choice. Democratic dirty tricks were met with little criticism by Nader , he called Kerry a dozen times to ask him to denounce the unethical behavior.When Kerry didnt return his calls , Nader still refused to attack him on even an issue basis. Nader even refused to attack kerry while Dean was debating him over the merits of allowing progressive voters to have a choice (Dean didnt want them to have a voice at all , Nader did).

Nader has been a class act this whole campaign.... at bending over and taking it up the rear by a bunch of fake progressive frauds.

I simply have been amazed at how Nader has bitten his lip while Kerry tried to out Bush Bush in the big 'me too' discussions disguised as "debates". Both claim to want to reduce terrorism yet both want to either bomb or impose severe sanctions on peaceful Muslim nations. Both brag about equal pay for certain groups (like women) yet neither want to be honest and admit that it would require strong unions and nothing less (no getting around the necessity of unions which are disentigrating rapidly).

[Cheswick2.0]

14. you have got to be kidding

:7

[blondeatlast]

23. And happily gorged himself on Republican operative money while at it.

Gimme a break.

Nader is a

LOSER

[LimpingLib]

26. As a Democrat myself I know the problem with MY PARTY....

....is all the Corperate Republican money we get.

Our leaders wont take on the status quo Corperations have going in their favor because the funds will dry up like a long gone ancient stream.

Problem is none hippocrits (like me) are few and far inbetween as your post and many others demonstrate.


Im not bashing Kerry and we need to elect him but soon we will realize that our problems are structural and not simply a matter of having a "D" on the ballot without any progressive voices (like Nader)"disrupting".

[blondeatlast]

30. Maybe so, but Nader is not the answer. Also, last I checked, democracy was

alive and well in the Democratic Party. I supported Kucinich in the primes, but the people have spoken for Kerry. The majority in the party are moderate left.

And I support our nominee 110%.

[Mizmoon]

10. Cry me a river

Nader has disgraced himself and his legacy. He has done nothing whatever to help current progressive causes. He's self-serving and totally ridiculous ... but if you like that in a candidate, hey, who am I to stop you?

[LimpingLib]

17. Nader was asked about his legacy and in essence said

that he didnt give a shit about it , that he doesnt amount anything compared to the plight of human beings in this rotton corrupt world. Only the jokers who want to make everything about partisansip and personalitys (over issues)talk about his "legacy".

The truth is that isues be damned to most people (Im a pro-Kery person myself fyi)and even though Nader has done nothing but agree to offer himself as an alternative to the establishment candidates (with little effort on his part in activly seeking votes or even ballot access), he has been smeared in the most pathetic way..its simply disgusting.

I sure hope all the cry babys and whinners sure put that kind of effort into ensuring we have civil libertys and strong unions in the coming years because it all is going to hell in a hand basket.Im so sick of frauds calling themselves progressives then in the next breath supporting people like Wes Clark who supports overthrowing Hugo Chavez or Howard Dean who supports sanctions on Cuba.

And all bets are off when it comes to reducing terrorism (the truth is we have had no Islamic terrorism frankly till we virtualy invited it with dreadful sanctions on Iraq and endless fucking with peoples lives in their own lands)if we allow Kerry to sanction Iran.What about the high Medicare premiums that are crushing seniors? Going to just sit and allow those to remain without mentioning to Kerry that the 1997 "balanced budget" (which actualy increased net spending through massive tax cuts through gross cuts were made to Medicare , rather savage ones at that)he bragged about voting for caused them and that we hope he repeals the cuts?

Nader didnt do much to get on any ballot but he sure could have smoothened our tickets rough edges. He could have been our lifeline to the elite, perhaps not a direct line but he could have made some demands that would have best been meet.

We will win this election but better keep the fingers crossed. Our new administration could literally go in any direction once elected. Usually it makes a turn for the worse,getting distance from average Americans and out of touch,all move to the right once in office.I wish I had confidence in our backbone and drive to steer the leaders in our party into line with average Americans concerns.

[mzmolly]

20. He didn't do much to get on the ballots?!

There are law suits pending in various swing states today. He is on MOST of the state ballots, and he focused on swing states.

He's simply been marginalized to the point of embarrassment and wants to save some face today.

[LimpingLib]

22. Forget something...like say issues?

Wait and see come January of 2005 why Nader wants to stay in the race.


Americans seem to know little about how democracy works.

Sad.

[mzmolly]

34. Ohhhh please spare me.

:cry:

Hitler was elected with 17% of the vote in the Democracy that was Germany before he became "ruler" of that country.

Americans seem to know so little about ... history ... poverty ... education ... Ralph Nader.

[blondeatlast]

24. So he's abandoned everything he ever worked for; he doesn't give a damn

anymore about worker safety, the environment, consumer issues?

That just confirms what I've thought all along, he's happy to gorge himself on republican

DIRTY MONEY.

[mac56]

37. Sad that Ralph's willing to piss away his legacy like that.

For many of us, that was the only thing that created any positive feelings about the man. Without it, he's no better than Zell Miller.

[secular_warrior]

11. I don't want any part of Nader.

Besides everything, I simply don't trust that he's genuine or has any one's interest in mind other than his own. It's all about Nader.

We can win this election without him, and never have to deal with him again.

The last thing we need is to build him up for him to come back to bite us in the ass.

[Cheswick2.0]

12. so he is trying to elect bush to win a spot in Kerry's administration?

A spokesperson for the Nader campaign welcomed the idea of a Nader role within the Kerry administration, saying "that would fulfill everything Ralph has been fighting to achieve in the past two campaigns."

He's worse than I thought.

[LimpingLib]

21. Its the REAL progressives like Nader that have over the years

brought in countless millions of voters.Voters that have voted Democratic (holding their noses shut with a vice grip too I might add)and given us many elections in countless race we didnt deserve.


The mush we nominate couldnt inspire a horney dog to hump their legs yet you act as if the votes belong to them?

The twlight zone logic amazes me to no end.

[blondeatlast]

25. You don't mind that he's in bed with Karl Rove?

Geez.

[Robbie67]

39. That is bogus.

Prove that.

[Hosnon]

13. Nader would be more than welcome to

me. He is the only candidate in this campaign who actually deserves to be President. The guy is a consumer advocate to the core and cuts through the bullshit. Read "Crashing the Party" by Nader. I was reading it for the second time but had to quit because I saw I was leaning more towards voting for him rather than Kerry.

Head of the EPA or the SEC would be interesting.

[redstateblues]

16. Deserves to be president? He is the reason Bush is in office

He has become a selfish caricature of someone who did something good 20 years ago. He doesn't care about this country.

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[blondeatlast]

28. Self-delete. I'm getting tense. Apologies. nt

[LimpingLib]

19. Yea your right.

Its our fault as progressives that we didnt see the wisdom in putting Liebermann in office , afterall instead of putting Iraq behind us in 2003 , we could watch Liebemann sanction Iraqi's to death till 2009-2010 then get us into the invasion mess around 2011.

We seem to forget the platorm and views of our lousey nominees dont we?

Shesh , Edwards lectures us back in 02-03 about having to bomb Iraq so Hussein cant get nukes , but at least that crap is behind us.

Now you wish we had all this shit before us????!!!!!

[blondeatlast]

27. If he enables a Bush win, everything he's worked for goes to Hell.

Enjoy the next four years with your guy living off the republican leftover trough.

:puke:

[LimpingLib]

29. Progressives are the reason we have registered Democrats to vote Bush out.

Everything you say is a none sequitur.

[blondeatlast]

32. Self-delete. I've got better things to do with my time. nt

[Killarney]

15. Fuck Nader and his 1 point. He can keep it.

He's a Republican shill. I don't want his blood votes.

[Zero Gravitas]

31. Nader can't be trusted

he said he wouldn't run in swing states in 2000, but did the exact opposite. Fuck Nader.

[geek tragedy]

33. Color me doubtful.

Ralph had his chance to do the right thing. Kerry then decided to marginalize him--and that is exactly what he has done.

[GreenPartyVoter]

35. I'll file this under the "I wish" section. I really do think Ralph would

great as Sec'y of Commerce or head of the SEC.

[LuminousX]

36. Sounds like a lame effort to win over Nader voters

If they haven't left Nader by now, they won't.

[CityHall]

38. GOP trying to scare small business/union voters

This sounds more like a Fox dirty trick to make Kerry seem further to the left and more in favor of "anti-business litigation." I can't imagine Nader would suddenly tilt toward Kerry after all the efforts to keep him off the ballot.