Could Allawi be OUR October surprise?

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1. Didn't Allawi have CIA ties in an earlier life?

2. Isn't The Company extremely pissed at the Misadministration? For Plame, scape-goating Tenet, Iraq?

3. If so, could that explain the timing of the missing explosives story?

4. And the very strong denial that they were missing before our invasion?
Snip:
"It is impossible that these materials could have been taken from this site before the regime's fall," said Mohammed al-Sharaa, who heads the science ministry's site monitoring department and previously worked with UN weapons inspectors under Saddam.

"The officials that were inside this facility (Al-Qaqaa) beforehand confirm that not even a shred of paper left it before the fall and I spoke to them about it and they even issued certified statements to this effect which the US-led coalition was aware of.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x935889

5. And could it explain why Allawi is blaming US for the massacre of 50 Iraqi soldiers?

In other words, is it possible that once a Company Man, always a Company Man? And that Allawi, who supposedly owes his existence to BushCo, actually is working against him?

I wonder...

[Kahuna]

1. I still believe that Arabs are conspiring a bush loss..Even Saudi..

Arabia. Think about it. What bush did, even if you're Iraqi and are grateful that Saddam is gone, was foul. He invaded a defenseless country based upon lies. What country in the middle east would think that they could trust him to not do the same thing to them? The Saudis included.

[Randi_Listener]

2. No one knows....

...who the fuck Allawi is. His capture will have ZERO impact.

[billyoc]

3. No, Allawi is the temp. mob boss

that bush installed in Iraq, Al-Zarqawi is the guy they're looking to capture.

[Randi_Listener]

4. You think the casual voter will be able to discern?

The * orgy is horsefucked.

[On the Road]

7. Hey, That's the Ticket!

Bush will arrest his hand-picked prime minister the day before the election, and headlines will read "Allawi Captured!" Nobody will know the difference.

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10. Lol! n/t

[billyoc]

13. That's just crazy

enough to work! rofl

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5. Are you being intentionally obtuse?

Allawi is the hand-picked ruler of Iraq. This question I posed has nothing to do with voters here being able to discern a difference between Allawi and Zarqawi. It has to do with the steady stream of Bush-damaging news coming out of Iraq. Is it intentional? Could Allawi STILL be working for a very pissed off CIA?

THOSE are my questions...

[Rose Siding]

6. I was just considering the ramifications of his massacre statement

Naturally, it behooves him to snipe at the US (and he's probably right here) given Iraqi sentiment. He'll be running for office, won't he?

I, too, suspected that he was involved in the explosives story but it really isn't clear what that involvement might have been. He could have been among the suppressors of the story, or among those who leaked it or BOTH. o my head

But this new, out loud criticism- "gross negligence" wasn't it?- might really complicate the process of training. I mean, we train and then *arm* a military that can, in no stretch of the imagination, fight us with those very weapons.

How will Kerry untangle this knot? I like the ideas I've heard about taking Iraqi units out of Iraq to train. It makes so much sense. Less fear of dying any minute...less of an obvious high value target...and then they can go back and have the capability to train others themselves.

Your idea about CIA involvement is interesting, even if all they did was to engineer the timing of the release of the story. It's amusing to think of Allawi assuring Bremer that none of the explosives information need ever be made common knowledge and them kaboom!

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9. Nice reply, thanks for the contribution! I suspect that

Bush & Cheney would know (by now) if the CIA was trying to "unseat" them, and Goss can't be any real help at this time.
Who knows? Paybacks can be a bitch...

[mikehiggins]

8. Maybe Bush is on the verge of re-learning an old, old lesson

that the Empire Builders of merry old England coulda/shoulda told him at the outset.

One infamous old NYC politician once described an honest politician as a man who,when you bought him, stayed bought.

The Brits shoulda told W that there ain't no honest politicians in the middle east.

Allawi is gonna look out for Allawi and if he doesn't do stuff to help Kerry now, what's going to happen to him if Kerry wins? Bush is stuck with him; Kerry could leave him out to dry in a heartbeat.

Point and set: Kerry

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11. "Allawi is gonna look out for Allawi " Bingo!

And it wouldn't hurt if the CIA reminded him that he can NOT survive without their help. In fact, just the opposite COULD occur...
Good points, MH, good points.

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12. Kick for the afternoon...n/t