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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:23 PM
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Why doesn't the left have a Drudge?
Look, Drudge does what Drudge does and he does it very well and he gets his share of attention. Why doesn't the left have a similar site? We now have one to counter Rush etc. on the radio side (AAR) after years of letting them have the stage all to themselves. We need a newsite that would attract a general audience and that would have the "sources" eager to supply tips -- a Drudge for the left. Is there such a site, and I've just missed it?
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:24 PM
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1. Buzzflash.com
:shrug:
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:24 PM
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2. What about all the librul media????
Aren't they whoring for us???
:)

(I know it's a sick joke)
:(
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:25 PM
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3. smudge report too
Although I was going to say that the Left believes in the hard truth, not slime, so we wouldn't have a drudge. Buzzflash actually bills itself as the un-Drudge report.
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eataTREE Donating Member (488 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:25 PM
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4. Dude, there are plenty of left-wing news blogs.
Wonkette. Talking Points Memo. Kos. This site. And unlike Drudge, our blogs occasionally report the TRUTH. Screw Drudge, the Right can have him. He got one big story in his whole life and has been coasting on that reputation ever since.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:28 PM
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10. right, that's why his name is all over the news today.....
right or wrong. And those other sites are just what you said.... blogs.... not news sites
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drdigi420 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:30 PM
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16. drudge is not news, its propaganda
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:33 PM
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28. doesn't matter..... he gets noticed... we need to get noticed
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:26 PM
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5. Cuz Lefty's don't lie.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:27 PM
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7. so, who's saying anything about lying? Is AAR lying?
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Shoeempress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:32 PM
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23. No, but Drudge is the Secretary of State of Lying. Chimpy being the
Pres. of Lying
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:33 PM
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26. pretty unresponsive to my question
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:26 PM
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6. Sorry, buzzflash just not the same kind of mix......
look at that page -- a hundred miles deep.
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:43 PM
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35. Well, I don't go to Drudge, so I can't compare them, honestly
I've seen him on TV and he looks like a clown to me.

I do know that Buzzflash has done interviews with lots of well-known liberals and progressives. No, it doesn't grab the attention of corporate media, but I don't think that's Buzzflash's fault.

I do agree with you, though, that "our side" has to do more to take on the Right on what has become their turf, the mainstream media. But to do that, we need deep pockets and a strategy of creating more media outlets like the Right has done over the past couple decades. Corporatists have such a stranglehold on media today, that's difficult, but AAR proves it's doable.

For some reason, though, we don't have the same kind of vision or determination that the Right has to do it on a wider scale. Until we do, I'll continue going to Buzzflash, listening to Pacifica and AAR, and reading The Nation.

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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:27 PM
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8. Okay, I'll make a website where I just make stupid stories up.
I can call it "The Drudge Retort".
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:29 PM
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13. why would you make up stupid stories? Don't you have any smart ones?
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aden_nak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:31 PM
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20. Sure I do, but I am trying to be like Drudge!
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alonso_quijano Donating Member (240 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:31 PM
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18. it's already out there!
The Drudge Retort, which I believe is a Rogers Cadenhead joint, is at:

www.drudge.com

Nice URL, huh? I bet he picks up some confused right-wingers, just like the good folks at:

www.georgewbush.org
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:33 PM
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27. Drudge Retort is an excellent name!
I've actually bene wondering the same thing myself. why don't we have..."let's check what the latest rumors are" page of our own?

we could have the moonie story, the caging story....no jizz-stained dresses tho. Unless the dress was worn by a republican male at the time.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:27 PM
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9. The media won't pay attention to a Liberal Drudge
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:30 PM
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15. Aha.... at last a sensible argument! But....
that's exactly what they said about AAR -- no listeners.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:32 PM
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22. That's not what i'm talking about
of course liberals can get audiences. I'm saying the news network producers would ignore a lefty drudge.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:35 PM
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29. bullshit.... if it turned up hot stories from time to time, they'd bite
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:37 PM
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31. there are people on the left that have hot stories but...
Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 03:38 PM by sonicx
dont't get beyond liberal sites and blogs. TV ignores us.
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Hello_Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:40 PM
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33. They ignored Drudge until the Lewinsky scandal
We need something like that to be unearthed on a liberal site.
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LostInAnomie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:29 PM
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11. Lefty's get tired of having our talking points turn out to be lies...
... Rephucks don't care.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:29 PM
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12. Because those on the left aren't generally closeted
Oh, you were talking about his little website and radio show...
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:31 PM
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19. yes, I am. So why are we conceding that turf to him?
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LeinesRed Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:30 PM
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14. I "hit" Drudge too many times lately..
but I just love looking at desperation!!!!
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Demi_Babe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:30 PM
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17. rawstory.com
www.rawstory.com
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:33 PM
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25. hmmmm.... didn't know that one.... looks interesting....
but it needs publicity..... let's talk it up
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:44 PM
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37. great site so far, talk it up nt
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DemNoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:32 PM
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21. I think
Its the same reason we dont have a Bush.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:32 PM
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24. Buzzflash, RAWSTORY, AMERICABLOG...there are
tons of 'em. And they are WAY WAY better than Drudge. There's even one called the Drudge Retort.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:36 PM
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30. interesting.... because even here on DU you often see this:
"I just saw something on Drudge," or "Drudge reporting...." -- but rarely do I see these sites mentioned. We need to push them harder.
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Born_A_Truman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:38 PM
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32. We need Lynn Cullen!
We need to get Lynn's radio show syndicated!
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KT2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:42 PM
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34. Buzzflash but never a "drudge"
Drudge takes his orders from the RW media noise machine. He puts out the spin for the day - this stuff is not from his own research.

The left just does not operate like this. The left is a big tent and does not operate on the premise that we must TAKE OVER the world. It will always operate differently than the Reich Wing.

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gcomeau Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:43 PM
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36. Because the left has something else. Integrity.
You can have one or you can have the other. I prefer our choice.

-Grant
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Shakespeare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:55 PM
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38. Because we live in a "reality-based" world.
;-)
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demokatgurrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 03:58 PM
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39. Don't need one.
Edited on Wed Oct-27-04 03:59 PM by demokatgurrl
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realcountrymusic Donating Member (999 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-27-04 04:07 PM
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40. haven't you heard?

drudge only "leans a little right, lately?"

nyuk nyuk nyuk! d'oh!

seriously, why don't we have someone willing to get down in the gutter and tell outright lies, smear people using sexual humiliation, and so forth?

because we are humans, not ulcerated demons.

rcm
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