If there is one thing we don't need....

[FrankenforMN]

It is to remind people of Kerry's connection to Massachusetts and the Red Sox. Trust me on this, I live in Minnesota and people are not very fond of states like Massachusetts.

[Democat]

1. We must never make a connection between Kerry and winners!

But who are the "we" that some people speak of?

[FrankenforMN]

We=Kerry Supporters n/t

[Jim Sagle]

5. The "we we's" with less than 200 posts.

;-)

[FrankenforMN]

8. Oh please

Before you start calling me a freeper, see my other posts. That is just lame. If i was going to post something that had a negative impact on the Kerry campaign it surely wouldn't have anything to do with the Red Sox.

[tomfodw]

2. Why is that? I've never understood this animus against the northeast.

Massachusetts is the birthplace of the American Revolution. Boston is a wonderful city (even if it is the home of the - ulp - Red Sox). New England is a great place.

I don't get it.

[Sparkly]

6. Me neither

Kerry should be proud of Massachussetts!! And he should be proud of the Sox!!

There is NO reason anybody should be somehow ashamed of their state in the UNITED STATES of America.

[FrankenforMN]

7. It took years and years of conservative propaganda

To call someone liberal is almost the worst insult. MA is seen as the capital of liberalism to those people that have no clue what liberalism really is. Also, there is a sense of elitism that you cannot deny. A lot of people living in the upper east coast think we are all farmers with pitchforks. That gets back to us, and it causes a LOT of resentment.

[Sparkly]

14. I don't think the solution is for Massachussetts to hang its head in shame

Seems "elitist" to diss other people because of where they live, but I don't think it's Massachussetts that's got that problem.

Kerry is from Massachussetts. BoSox finally won the world series. He's a fan. Not a thing to downplay there that I see.

[FrankenforMN]

16. Who was suggesting that they hang their heads in shame?

I'm not "dissing" anyone. I'm simply saying that it is probably not the smartest POLITICAL strategy. I can hear the talk show hosts now.

[Hello_Kitty]

17. Yes, the RW has done a lot to malign the great Northeast

But consider that lots of folks from all over the country are descendents of New Englanders. My own family originated in Worcestor, MA. Four generations including my father. I've never lived there myself but I have an affinity for that great state.

[RevCheesehead]

19. GHWB and Roger Ailes coined the "L" word...

..and shame on us for not speaking out!

But seriously, why are you worried about Liberals in MN? What about Hubert Humphrey and Walter Mondale? Paul Wellstone?

Minnesota has always had a reputation for progressive thinking (much like WI). My advice is to avoid the conservative talk-radio koolaid drinkers. They want you to be ashamed!

I think we need to get over this divisiveness that sets state against state. If we stay focused on Kerry and his message, we can proudly unite in sending the chimp to the nearest travelling circus.

[FrankenforMN]

21. Apparently you have not been noticing...

Minnesota is no longer the gleaming blue state that we were all proud of. I live in southern Minnesota, which is dominated by republicans and the burbs are turning red. Secondly, I am not worried about liberals in Minnesota, I am worried about swing voters that are looking for ANY reason not to vote for John Kerry. To say that Minnesota is still a liberal state, could not be further from the truth. :(

[PopSixSquish]

3. Give Unto Me a Break!!!!!! This is One of the Greatest Comebacks Ever

You are familiar with the term "comeback" right?

Hint - 43

[exliontamer]

4. I'm not so sure

I have family in Michigan who really loved watching the series because of the Sox reputation as a ragtag bunch.

I mean, half the guys on the Sox look like they just spent 3 weeks at deer camp, fer crissakes.

[MassLiberal]

9. what does "states like Massachusetts" mean?

I grew up there. It's a wonderful place. People there are not so different from people in Minnesota. I have inlaws in Minnesota and Iowa, so I know what I'm talking about.

[FrankenforMN]

12. I simply meant Upper East Coast states. I think it is a wonderful state

fyi... I have been wearing a Red Sox hat ever since the Twins traded Doug Mientkevich (sp?) to them.

[sandnsea]

10. Change the image

It's about damned time. Our country was born there and we've let a bunch of right wing lunatics desecrate the place while claiming the flag. NOT what they would have wanted at all.

[secular_warrior]

11. Disagree. People always tend to root for the underdog.

No one is going to link this with their dislike of Massachusetts politics.

The Red Sox waited almost a century - they deserve it. This is an amazing story regardless of where one lives or what one's politics are.

[Longhorn]

13. All the Texas folks I know were rooting for the Sox.

There may be some diehard Astros fans who didn't get over losing to the Cardinals but I think most people root for an underdog and you don't get much more underdog than the Boston Red Sox as far as history goes.

[FrankenforMN]

15. That's good, but what about people from Missouri? n/t

[Hello_Kitty]

18. Don't worry about that.

We rooted for the AZ Diamondbacks in the 2001 World Series but everyone in Arizona was totally behind the people of New York. Kerry supporters in MO aren't going to bail on him, I promise.

[FrankenforMN]

20. I'm talking about swing voters (if there are any left). n/t

[Nordic]

22. can we nominate this for "dumbest post of the day"?

uh .... yeah, let's not let people know he's 6'4 and his name is John either.

:eyes:

[Name removed]

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[RevCheesehead]

28. That's Freeper language...

...and if you're not one, you impersonate one rather well.

KERRY IN A LANDSLIDE, BABY!!!!!!!

[Nordic]

30. damn I love that "alert" button

[txindy]

33. It is?! Seriously?!

His name is John AND he's from Massachusetts?! OMG!!! Thank you for keeping me from making the biggest mistake of my life!! What could be next?! What horrors await us next?!?!?!?!

ROFL!! Good grief. :eyes:

[nothingSOXmeanymore]

24. THis is why we shouldn't let white males vote

They base their decisions on the most irrational things

[FrankenforMN]

26. Irrational things such as racism and sexism?

[nothingSOXmeanymore]

31. Please...you post a completely stupid thread claiming that

Boston winning will lose Kerry votes and you expect to be taken seriously? Yea...I can tell by your idiotic thread that you are a white male...maybe it's the whining about sports as though it should matter politically that gave you away....

[Name removed]

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[Robeson]

25. Are you the same FrankenforMN...

...that posted on an earlier thread today about how you wanted to "torch" all Democrats from the South because they are all "rats"? Now, its Massachusetts you don't like? Whats up with this? Who side are you on? And do you realize that the Democratic Party is an umbrella party?

[FrankenforMN]

27. I did not say we need to torch all southern democrats

I was referring to ZELL MILLER democrats.

If you would actually read my other post I said that I love MA. I never said that I have anything against MA, but unfortunately a lot of people in the Midwest and the South do. The conservative radio talk show hosts will have a field day with it. I actually bought a Red Sox hat, and have been rooting for them since they got Doug Mientkevitz (sp) from the twins. Stop misrepresenting what I say. Thanks.

[Robeson]

35. No one is misrepresenting a thing...

...that was exactly what you insinuated on the other site, and you know it is. And you know that many people took it that way, including myself, because we wrote you back and said as much. Of course, its hard to go back and check what you said now, because of all the posts that are left on that thread, yours has been deleted. Hhmm, wander why? Maybe because the moderaters don't like people talking about torching other people?

Methinks we're getting close to freeperland here.

[txindy]

29. If they haven't figured out JK is the senator from Mass., they're hopeless

Besides, it's almost five days before Election Day. People will change their votes because the Red Sox won? Riiiiight. :eyes:

[FrankenforMN]

32. You would be surprised

I am not saying that the red sox winning has any real impact on the election, but some people do vote for very stupid reasons.

[Moderator]

36. locking -- flame bait