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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:19 AM
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Predictions for election day....
Hello from Germany,
it's just a few days ahead. What will be the result of the coming election?

My prediciton is: Bush will win and this time, he doesn't even has to falsify the results. Bush will not get much more votes than Kerry, but he will win.
Clinton was the DLC with a lot of "charm"; Kerry is the same but without any "charm".

Is there any chance, after losing this election, that the democrats in the USA will REALLY change and defend the interests of the people again?

Add your prediciton!

Greetings from Germany,
Dirk
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Dookus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:23 AM
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1. my "prediciton"
is you're very very wrong.
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:34 AM
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8. O.K. just 5 days....
We know more in about 5 days.
While the mostly corporation financed mainstream-media in Europe is supporting Kerry, they are much more critical about Kerry's chance to win than DU. A lot of leftists and liberals in Europe fear that Kerry might reunite corporate interests worldwide, while Bush is just obsessed with the interests of some U.S. corporations. Personally I really don't know, if I should wish that Kerry wins...

But this is just about predicitons:
Write what you think will happen. Read it again after november, 2. And be proud of yourself or think of yourself or hang down your head in sorrow or do whatever you like, just read it again, then.

Dirk
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:38 AM
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11. That honestly
Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 02:39 AM by fujiyama
sounds like one of the dumbest things I've heard. I understand that you don't live here, and feel that both sides are tools of the establishment.

If liberals and leftists fear Kerry to be worse than Bush, than they are even dumber than I thought. No wonder right of center governments are taking power all over Europe.

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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:25 AM
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2. If you want to
bitch about Kerry and Clinton, this may not be your board.
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:26 AM
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3. Woo boy, I think you picked the wrong forum to say that on . . .
I think Kerry will win by a significant (but not huge) margin. I also predict that I will be very drunk in any case.
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Casandra Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:27 AM
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4. Hmmmmm
Greetings from America

Kerry will win the electoral vote count! If Karma is in this one, Bush could win the popular vote. How delicious that thought is!
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lady raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:30 AM
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6. not sure about that...
It sounds like poetic justice, but if that happens, you can BET that the tards will be screaming from the rooftops that he wasn't legitimately the President.
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lady raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:29 AM
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5. sounds like...
If you think John Kerry has no charm, then media coverage in your country must be lacking. He is sincere, warm, and funny, and it comes across here loud and clear. :-)
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saracat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:30 AM
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7. WOW. This is not the time for such a downer!
You are completely wrong! Nothing would indicate your conclusion. What do you base your prediction on? Even the psychics don't call it your way.
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Sean Reynolds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:34 AM
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9. This is what I believe will happen...save it and see if I'm right!
Kerry will win the electoral college with 303 votes to Bush's 232. He'll win the popular vote 51.3% to 47.6% (rounded that's Kerry 51%, Bush 48%).


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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:36 AM
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10. OK, I think I should make a statement so nobody goes off on Dirk
I've been living in Europe for the past 3 years, and a lot of Europeans think that Bush is going to win, even though most want Kerry to. I frankly don't know why, but most of my German friends are skeptical about Kerry's chance of winning. I've never been able to nail down how they came to that conclusion. They just think that. So try not to be too harsh on Dirk. Oh and Dirk, not to be impolite, but I would suggest not saying things like that on the forums at this point in time. Passions are running too high for someone to get away unscathed saying Kerry's going to lose. He's going to win, by the way. :D
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fujiyama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:42 AM
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12. I have no problem
Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 02:46 AM by fujiyama
hearing what Europeans have to say. In fact I'm interested. I also understand their sketicism regarding Kerry's chances. After the last election, many here don't trust the counting of the votes, the procedure, and don't think the "right" person will win...not to mention the fact that there is much evidence that the republicans are trying already to disenfranchise as many voters as possible, and drive down turnout among blacks. Also, understandably, Europeans have no idea how the US talks about democracy all the time, yet rely on a bizarre antiquated system such as the electoral college. I don't blame them for that. I don't trust things here either.

Even I am hopeful, but keep telling myself not to get my hopes up too high. I have prepared myself to face a loss as well. Though it would be devastating, life will go on.

However, I am annoyed by statements like "Kerry will unite worldwide corporate interests". That is nonsense and if European leftists believe that, they are dumb as hell...and must be blind to the mess Bush has caused.
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:54 AM
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14. OK, good
I just wanted to make sure nobody was going to bitch him out because they misinterpreted what he was trying to say. So many of my friends are curious as to what I think about the US system, and almost all of them don't really realize how many problems we really have with our political system. I've told all my friends that the only way bush would become president is though large-scale election fraud. I'm utterly convinced that he cannot possibly win legitimately.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:51 AM
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13. Hello Dirk
I feel that Kerry will win this one. The GOTV has done a great job in registering new voters. These are all people who fall through the cracks in our polling systems here. The majority of these are Democratic registrations in the states where it counts the most. When you figure all of that into the equation it is a Kerry win.

Now on a side note:
We want Bush out very badly on this forum and are all pretty much worn out from all the work we have put into it. I also suggest that you not come in and bash our man. People are on highly emotional right now.
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Paul Lazzaro Donating Member (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 02:55 AM
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15. my prediction
If Bush wins this election like you say then forget about hearing from us Democrats, never mind the people, for a long, long time...America WILL be a fascist state bent on world domination and you Europeans will be shitting bricks figuring out how to cope with our own version of 21st century oligarchy that does not include you in our PNAC plans....
A lot of people here want Bush to be reelected because they believe the second coming of Christ is imminent and they wish for Armageddon to happen...
I ask you how would you cope with a situation like this? All the cards in the deck are stacked against us and I think we're doing quite well despite it all, what more do you ask of us short of violence? Are you thinking we should have an insurrection in the United States? It would be extremely bloody and the result would not change except for the worse...
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