Video of Giuliani Blaming the Troops for Missing Explosives

[Skinner]

Windows Media: Giuliani Blaming Troops

What a jerk.

[soupkitchen]

1. Well, it's not his fault the firefighters on 9-11 didn't have good radios

for communication,(after all, he was only the Mayor) so why should the President be blamed for anything either?

[KurtNYC]

12. Also not his fault that there were 6,000 gallons of diesel fuel in WTC 7

Most controversial is the 6,000 gallon fuel tank. In 1998 and 1999, Fire Department officials warn that the fuel tank violates city fire codes and poses a hazard. According to one Fire Department memorandum, if the tank were to catch fire it could produce “disaster.”

http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/context.jsp?id=1626004942-3140

Not his fault except that he made the decisions, duh.

[Kool Kitty]

37. Now, you know that you're not supposed to

talk about that! Rudy was the hero of 9/11! He was America's mayor! Shame on you for pointing to that glaring truth. ;-)

[CrispyQ]

2. Shameful.

It will be like the torture scandal -- they will point their fingers at the troops & claim they are above reproach.

This is the most shameful, cowardly administration EVER!

[wicket]

3. That asshole!!!!

:grr: :grr: Shut up Guiliani you friggin' chickenhawk!!!!! :grr: :nuke: :nuke:

[michigandem2]

4. OMG...."support our troops" MY ASS!!!! Dickhead

[rsmith6621]

5. Guiliani Just Lost A

Opportunity to be VeeeP

[DeepModem Mom]

6. File it away, Skinner, for the next time Rudy seeks office --

[DinahMoeHum]

10. Rudy may be bucking for Senator in 2006 - against Hillary Clinton

This could be big bad-ass nail in his coffin - and the coffin of the NY Repuke machine of Al D'Amato.


:kick::kick::kick:

[Cha]

64. When I first saw this I was thinking

that ..this is an ad for Hillary in 2006 If she needs it.

[calimary]

53. Would that be candidate Rudy "Ashlee Simpson" Giuliani?

YES, ABSOLUTELY file this away.

Rudy "BLAME OUR TROOPS" Giuliani. Yep, a real patriot there. Good way to keep him penned in.

[spanone]

7. Giuliani cashed in on this war immediately after 911.

He's made millions off the dead in the 911 rubble. Shame on his ass.

[AmerDem]

8. I love when repukes talk like this

You know damn well this is going to appear in political ads when Giuliani tries running for office again. Watch as they day goes on as he tries to weasel out of what he said.

[Horse1969]

9. Can you imagine what would happen if a dem

blamed the troops for ANYTHING? What a double standard, the repukes should be calling for his head right now with statements like that. Hypocracy personified.

[Sequoia]

56. Welcome Horse1969

Rudy should just forget about any hope for running. People, especially New Yorkers, will not forget this.

[Cha]

65. GOTCHA! GHOULIANI!

:bounce: I can't freakin' believe it! :bounce:

[flpoljunkie]

11. Thanks, Skinner. Read below to see how Rudi is cashing in on 9/11!

Always post this link to remind folks how Rudi is cashing in on 9/11 to the detriment of our senior citizens and us taxpayers.

http://216.239.39.104/search?q=cache:I-p1TjtKKLAJ:www.f... (Link no longer workin, but it is genuine)

Bernard Kerik, Kerik-Kerik, LLC
 
First, I would like to thank the task force for the invitation and the opportunity to make these brief remarks. The purpose of me being here today is to advise the task force that the former Mayor of the City of New York, Rudolph Giuliani and Partners has been retained to conduct an independent review of the safety issues related to the wholesale importation of medicines from outside the U.S. 

As many of you know, I am the former Police Commissioner for the City of New York and as of recently was a senior advisor for the Minister of Interior for Iraq and a senior advisory to Ambassador Bremmer on the reconstitution of Iraq’s interior ministry . Today, I’m the CEO of Kerik-Kerik, and we’ll be working with the Mayor on this review.   

The review includes documentation, site reviews, and we are making every effort to speak to people and groups on both sides of the issue, including those who support it as well as those who oppose the importation. Although the review will be on-going over the next few months, we anticipate having some preliminary findings this month, and we would be anxious to share them with the task force, as well as others. We are quite concerned about the growing support for wholesale importation of drugs or the purchase of medicines over the Internet when there are clearly so many unanswered questions regarding the safety of such practices. There are many risks to the health and safety of Americans with respect to the importation of drugs from outside this country.

[elehhhhna]

72. hwo the hell are they qualified to do this analysis? Where's the FDA?

What is this logrolling contract costing US?

[ScreamingMeemie]

13. Good job Giuliani...tell us again how you support the troops.

:eyes: Creep

[PSU84]

14. This could be a career-ending gaffe.

He will never escape this. Those quotes will haunt him till the day he dies.

[DemocracyInaction]

15. Well, finally a truthful statement from a Republican!!

Read it and weep, America!! The troops are meainingless, nameless nothings to these creeps. They are good for photo ops but of no concern in the "protecting and keeping them alive" department. And this is exactly how these "compassionate" pigs think about average, everyday Americans and their struggles. They are slick on the surface, but they are slime to the bone. Wake up America---you ignorant fools.

[Village Idiot]

16. How in the FUCK

were the troops supposed to search for something that they weren't told even EXISTED????

If ORDERED to secure sites at Al-Qaqaa and Tuwailia, troops would CERTAINLY have secured them. They were not ordered to do so - in fact they were repeatedly (according to what I remember at the time) ORDERED to get off the dime and shag ass to Baghdad, as media reports of US Forces being "mired," and unable to mobilize came in off the wire hourly!!!

Guiliani is a disgraceful excuse for a human being. Bush is an earlobe (an asshole has a function).

GO KERRY, GO!!!!!!

[frank frankly]

17. un-fucking-believable

oops, i meant to say, par for the course...

:puke:

Skinner, you might want to make a "siren" for the homepage for this. This should be media blasted.

I can't believe I liked him some when i lived in nyc.

[rogue emissary]

18. Say good bye to that future presidential run Giuliani.

:bounce:

[Patiod]

19. Plus he said he wants to "finish the job the terrorists started"

I was on my way out to work this morning, and on GMA, he told Matt Lauer that he wasn't bucking for head of Homeland Security if Bush wins again, that his only goal was to "finish the job the terrorists started."

Uh, okay.

[requiem99]

22. Freudian slip? "They never stop looking for ways to harm our country..."

"And neither do we."

[spanone]

20. Won't open!!!! bad link?

[Cronus Protagonist]

101. Right-Click Save As and then run it - server MIME types are not setup

Just save it and then run it from your own computer. DU's server does not have the correct MIME type for a WMV file, that's all.

We ship same or next day by first class mail - there's still time to get some of these beauties!
http://brainbuttons.com/home.asp?stashid=13

[Tim_in_HK]

21. That's a new ad

right there.

[bigtree]

23. unbelievable

[highplainsdem]

24. What a despicable little man Giuliani is.

And what a great talking point this is for the Dems.

Thanks for posting the video, Skinner!

[Willy Lee]

25. What a loser.

[flpoljunkie]

26. Rudi blows it for Bush--but only if the cowardly media reports it!

[Walt Starr]

27. That's the most disgusting un-American thing I've ever seen!

Send that man to Gitmo!

[tabasco]

28. There's only one troop who is responsible:

General Tommy Franks. Bush's yes-man and fraud hero. He shares the blame with the reckless administration that launched the war. Franks did not have the moral courage to tell what a quagmire we were getting into (like General Shinseki). Franks bailed out ASAP after seizing the airport, when he knew the war had only just begun.

There was a useless airborne mission with a brigade in Northern Iraq, in a peaceful area. The area was unoccupied and the occupation of the LZ was totally unopposed. It was a useless mission to get the Vicenza unit a combat jump. This brigade, or even just one battalion, could have been used to secure the ammo dump at Al Quqaa. The incompetence of this administration and the neocon generals is mind-numbing.

edit typo

[Mister K]

Just disgusting

Based on this information, we should blame the falling of the Twin Towers on Giuliani. It does not matter that he did not have the required knowledge or force necessary to prevent 9/11 from happening. It happened on his watch and he is responsible. Just like the troops.

The repugs made a point yesterday regarding 9/11. It was pointed out (by the Dems) that 9/11 footage is shown before every Bush Stump speech and we feel it shouldn't be that way. The repugs reply that "Yes the Dems want us to forget about 9/11. Like a bump in the road. Did we forget about Pearl Harbor the ask"

I doubt that Roosevelt would have used the bombing of Pearl Harbor as part of an Stump speech. As a matter of fact I found the following information.

"When the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, Roosevelt directed organization of the Nation's manpower and resources for global war.

Feeling that the future peace of the world would depend upon relations between the United States and Russia, he devoted much thought to the planning of a United Nations, in which, he hoped, international difficulties could be settled. "

[riverwalker]

29. sent to Col. Hackworth and OpTruth n/t

[Quadrajet]

34. Excellent idea!

[Cha]

70. And General Tony McPeak!

Great idea!

[Lex]

30. The repuke message is getting desperate & undisciplined.

When John Edwards was asked about the explosives on Larry King a couple of nights ago, he was very careful to point out that the soldiers had done everything and more that was asked of them, but the planning from the top had been non-existent.

The repukes are flailing around looking for anything to get this story off them and they are just digging a deeper hole for themselves. They are WAY OFF their game because of this story.

[robbedvoter]

31. Rudy thanked God for W reading My Pet Goat - rather than Gore

being in charge. he also told Ruslut God must've put W in there,( reading that book...)

[gulfcoastliberal]

32. His Borg upload/download link must've gown down

after this quesion was asked. Resistance is futile - you will become one with the borg, just perhaps not in as destinctive postion you desired.

Don't the pugs sound like Borg?:

After individuality has been stripped, and assimilation into the collective has taken place, a typical Borg drone will be programmed for certain ship tasks, like any vessel crew member. But drawing on the knowledge and experience of all Borg, and all archived encounters, technology, tactical information and scientific data, the Borg collective is closer to perfection than any organic crew operating under a Command structure hierarchy.


http://www.trekmania.net/diplomatic/borg.htm

[Quadrajet]

33. Didn't * say that Kerry was blaming the troops?

They're starting to fall apart at the seams! Now go vote!

[wanpete]

35. this is truly repugnant. How dare they blame the troops. once

again we find out that they are above reproach. Really sickening. This should be made into a commercial quick, fast, and in a hurry!:puke:

[fertilizeonarbusto]

36. ugh

kiss your presidential run goodbye, ijjit.

[DUBYASCREWEDUS]

38. Giuliani Blaming the Troops

I live in the battleground State of Ohio and this Repuke and Ed Koch the Democratic traitor are doing a "Vote for Bush" commercial. I cannot stand Giuliani. Somebody tell me why everybody thinks this Bush Lapping Dog is a Hero?

[TwilightZone]

41. For the same reason they think Bush is C-in-C. Two words: good timing.

Giuliani had the perfect situation - look halfway intelligent in the response to 9/11, and the world thinks you're a hero. Even better, you don't have to hang around for the aftermath, because your term as mayor is up. All positive, no negative.

Bush's situation is similar. A trained monkey could have stood on top of a pile of rubble with a fire fighter at WTC and looked like a hero. Perfect situation - it was impossible to look bad.

He had the country and the world behind him. Bush, however, is such a moron that he managed to screw up the aftermath.

Lucky for us, that's the case. If Bush was at all competent, we'd all be wondering how badly our candidate was about to get stomped in the election. Instead, we're going to win.

[Chico Man]

39. Anyone have a quick transcript?

I cannot hear the video here at work.

[AIJ Alom]

40. The Bush supporters are D-E-S-P-E-R-A-T-E ! Guiliani should be reprimanded

for blaming our troops ! The troops are probably dying because of these explosives ! What escapes Guiliani's partisan mindset is the fact that the troops were ordered to secure top tier sites like the oil ministry first, Al Qaaqaa was a second tier project.

[Southern Patriot]

42. First Bush says that Kerry is dissing the troops.

Now "America's Mayor" and Bush surrogate blames the troops.

Didn't he get the talking points memo?

[Thrill]

43. This piece of shit

who has been nothing but a Mayor has some nerve. The balls on that guy.

[Kadie]

44. That is awful. Unbelievable. n/t

[The Chronicler]

45. If he ever runs for president, or governor for that matter, this will hurt

Play it over and over and over and over. Kerry would crush him in '08.

[txindy]

46. But, but,.... Rudy's right!

Our troops get their instructions from the bottom up, not from the top down. Those privates let their officers and Commander-'n'-Thief down! Why do they hate America so much? :cry:

:eyes: Guiliani is finished, now. Finally.

[Chelsea Patriot]

47. Hey, Rudia, You look like Shit! Doing your own Make-up these Days?

Hasn't your Silicone Titted Whore showed you how to use an eyebrow pencil yet?

Are you wearing the leopard bra + panties or the lacy pink sateen acetate set?

[BJ]

48. Yeah, I watched this a**hole this morning.

I sick of him and all the rest of these Repiglican punks telling us that they're adults and they're "da man" and the rest of that garbage.

The true mark of an adult, man or woman, is that he or she will take the responsibility upon his or herself and admit a mistake, not place the blame on others.

[TexasChick]

49. Keep it up, Rudtard! We'll be glad to take all of the military votes! n/t

[priapis]

50. SAVE THIS with surrounding interview- rudy runs for senate or prez soon

[buddhamama]

51. "The ultimate responsibility is on the troops

did they search carefully enough..."

The explosives were in bunkers. Bush failed to make the securing of the explosives a priority. He demonstrated that by not having enough troops in Iraq for the job. And the poor fuckers who were in the area were trying to stay alive.

[David Zephyr]

52. Kick! Kick! Kick!

Don't let this die.

[TwilightZone]

54. I can't believe he actually said this. Republican talking point?

I'd like to think that this was just a dumb personal mistake on his part, but everything the Republicans do is scripted, so it's more likely that this was a planned comment.

How could they possibly think that this is a good idea?

[lostnfound]

55. I think Rudy is a chickenhawk, isn't he?

At least I can't find any record of military service..looks like he was in college in the mid-60s.

[priapis]

68. i think he got deferments as a law clerk to some judge

[gargamel]

57. I hate to use my first post to bash someone...

...but Rudy is acting like a douchebag, soldiers fault my ass.

[buddhamama]

62. Welcome to DU, gargamel

we're happy to have you with us! :hi:

i love the smurfs, btw.

[Gut Check]

58. gee... thanks for support our troops asswipe. nt

[merh]

59. Hey Rudy, the point is - * admin knew the ammo site was there

it wasn't up to the troops to search for what was known to exist, it was the responsibility of DOD and Rummey to be sure orders to secure the existing ammo site were issued.

Oil ministry was secured, why the F not this ammo dump?

Kiss your dreams for a political future good bye Rudy! You are history, you piece of sh**!

[Francine Frensky]

60. Anybody still have their response from Land's End?

I'm about to send this link and the Rudi quote to the Land's End guy who wrote back to me that they didn't think forcing their employees to attend a rudi speech a few weeks ago was any big deal.

I hadn't responded to this guys stupid reply to my email of complaint. I think his name was richard Mensch.

[Cha]

74. The company "Land's End" made you go to a

ghouliani speech? I buy from them..are they repukes?

[Fla Dem]

61. What a freakin arsehole. Blaming it on the troops. God forbid Bushit

should take any responsibility. America's mayor just showed his true colors. Support the troops until you have to cover Bushit's ass. What a loser.

[Cha]

63. Ghouliani blaming the troops for

what mr pass the buck should be taking responsibility for. I hope this pisses the troops off enough to make them realize just what their commander in chief is made of..

Yellow chicken skin!

[sisenor]

66. I lived in NY when he was mayor, and he was a mayor asshole

everybody hated that facist. Now, he's become another politician who is really milking 9/11 for all it is worth.

[debatepro]

67. Sure Blaim the Victim

What a jerk off. Dang I was hoping he would run in 08. Guess not now. LOL

[StlMo]

69. Giuliani is an ass.

:grr: :mad:

[Cocoa]

71. can someone transcribe, please?

[DireStrike]

73. My mom Booed him in 1998.

Well ok, I don't know the EXACT date... =p

Point is it was before 9/11, he came to the town where I was living at the time (College Point.) He passed by and there was a big crowd of us. Most people in the crowd were cheering or silent and smiling.

Right when he passes close to us, my mom cups her hands around her mouth and yells out, "BOOOO!"

You should have seen the look on his face! It was just like the one chimpy gave to the reporter who asked about the weapons.


Yeah, so we didn't vote for him. But he did clean up the city a bit... because he's a nazi.

[Randi_Listener]

75. I told you he was garbage.

Giuliani is another fucking GOP felchface. Learn a lesson.

[Homerr]

76. Giuliani is a complete ASSHAT!

[DireStrike]

77. Commanders say they needed more troops.

U.S. commanders acknowledge that when troops visited the site in April 2003, they did not conduct an extensive search for weapons.

"We were still in a fight," said the commander of the unit that was first to arrive in the area, in an interview with CBS News Correspondent David Martin.

"Our focus was killing bad guys," he continued, adding that he would have needed four times as many troops to search and secure all the ammo dumps his troops came across during the push into Iraq.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/25/iraq/main651082.shtml

[Warren DeMontague]

78. Why Does He Hate America?

n/t

[EmperorHasNoClothes]

79. Did they SEARCH carefully enough?

How carefully do they have to search to find 380 tons of explosives?!?

I just had to mute MSNBC cause I couldn't stand to hear * say how Kerry is blaming the troops for the missing explosives - and here his attack dog Giuliani is doing it!

My head is spinning.

[Mister K]

80. Reply from Gen. Wesley Clark

WASHINGTON, Oct. 28 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Gen. Wesley Clark (news - web sites) issued the following statement today: "For President Bush (news - web sites) to send Rudolph Giuliani out on television to say that the 'actual responsibility' for the failure to secure explosives lies with the troops is insulting and cowardly. "The President approved the mission and the priorities. Civilian leaders tell military leaders what to do. The military follows those orders and gets the job done. This was a failure of civilian leadership, first in not telling the troops to secure explosives and other dangerous materials, and second for not providing sufficient troops and sufficient equipment for troops to do the job. "President Bush sent our troops to war without sufficient body armor, without a sound plan and without sufficient forces to accomplish the mission. Our troops are performing a difficult mission with skill, bravery and determination. They deserve a commander in chief who supports them and understands that the buck stops in the Oval Office, not one who gets weak knees and shifts blame for his mistakes

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/usnw/20041028/pl_usnw/statement_from_general_wesley_clark_on_giuliani_comments165_xml

Vote this thing up peops

[cthrumatrix]

81. way to go Wes.... rip AWOL a "new one"

[fryguy]

82. who remembers when Giuliani was a total asshole in NY?

Before the Repukes elevated him to messiah-like status in the wake of 9/11? He screwed over just about every aspect of the City that wasn't white-middle class cops from Queens and Staten Island. He ushered in crap like K-Mart, Olive Garden and other box stores, turning parts of the City into the psedu-malls of AnyTown, USA. Sure people like to talk about how he lowered crime (along with a sky-rocketing rise in complaints to the CCRB) and increased tourism (by making Times Square into a virtual Disney theme park). What a prick.


(In the interest of full disclosure, I thought he did a great job in the aftermath of 9/11 to help calm our shocked and scared shitless nerves, its the whitewashing of his past and demagoguery that followed which nauseates me.)

[npincus]

83. it should be an ad- time to rip off the halo from phony St. Rudy of 9-11

the gory, greedy profiteer of our national tragedy

[Bluebear]

84. He never met a camera he didn't like.

Me me me me me me me me me me, 9/11, oh and me me me me me.

[NAO]

85. Can We Make Sure the Troops In Iraq Get a Copy of this Clip

We could burn CDs with the clip as a *.wav file and send them along with other care package items. I just think they deserve to see and hear Ghouliani, speaking as a Bush surrogate, blaming them for the missing explosives.

[FatDave]

93. Too late to affect military vote?

Our troops really need to know this went down, but I worry that it's too late to make a difference in the military vote. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me if the feeling in the RNC was "the troops have already mailed their absentee ballots, go ahead and fuck 'em".

But the troops still need to know about this just so they can see what the proponents of the war really think of them.

Christ, the mind boggles at the gall of these bastards.

[VOX]

86. Rudy G., the second greatest beneficiary of 9/11...what a flaming ass****!

This takes water-carrying for the main act a little too far, Rudy.
Go straight to hell.

[gavodotcom]

87. There Goes 2008, you stupid fuck.

I watched this video with a huge amount of schadenfreude, thanks for the grab.

Who the FUCK do they think they're going to be able to run against Kerry next time?

Jeb will be 'crucified' by Florida election laws, the feeding tube debacle, etc.

McCain will be 72 in '08. That's 2 years beyond Ronald Reagan '80 old, and year younger than Bob Dole '96.

Cheney's got a bad ticker and Halliburton.

DeLay's been censured 3 times for ethics violations, assuming he's still in in the House in four years.

Frist has the whole racism card to be played against him, and the health care fraud settlements and fines against his family's company.

Unles the Governator can run for President, who do they really have?

We've just had the extreme fortune to witness the death of the Republican party.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

99. Santorum (PA) and Allen (VA)? n/t

[Homerr]

88. "You are a 100% certified bastard." - Randi Rhodes

AAR

[Bluebear]

89. And he thinks he could be Commander in Chief in 2008?

Ha ha ha ha.

[robbedvoter]

90. Air America made it a news item.

[LynnTheDem]

91. You dirty rotten son of a bitch

Had I been present when you said such vile sickening crap, you'd be hurting. A lot. You piece of shit bastard.

[okieinpain]

92. oops, damn does that mean he's not going to get a christmas

card.

[liberal_in_GA]

94. Is this clip getting any play

on the media? Unbelievable. Every family with someone in Iraq should see this. :mad:

[bettyellen]

95. GET THIS STORY OUT THERE!! is it at this link??

what show was this... i can see it's NBC... and located the page with video

http://www.wnbc.com/index.html

but my os (mac 10 safrari) doen't support the player. which is a real shame because I would love to show it to a few people.
I'm going to download at work.
But can anybody open it and tell me is the quote there?
If it ain't I want to hear from NBC why.
it's like a cult, these rudy lovers, it's disgusting. he "cleaned up new york" by shipping the homeless to yonkers!!

[bettyellen]

96. rightnow on hardball!

some pentagon expert is going on about who's to blame, said bush ain't going to echo rudy's words.
duh.
BUT THEY SHOWED IT!!

[Maestro]

97. What a morans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The troops are there to follow orders from the generals who follow orders from the Pentagon which told them to forget about it and get to Baghdad.

[bettyellen]

98. SAYS HE'S WHOLEHARTEDLY SUPPORTING TROOPS-WHEN HE'S NOT BLAMING THEM!!

[President Kerry]

100. now lets see...

those chickenhawk scumbags never served, launched an illegal profiteering war, costing over 100000 iraqi and 1000 american soldier lives, to fill their pockets, turned the whole world against us.. and now they have the GALL to blame soldiers for their fuckups. THIS IS UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! Make this nightmare stop! Nov2 can't come soon enough.