Bush used fake troop crowd in new "Whatever It Takes" ad

[Rose Siding]

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/27/22442/878

You can't believe anything about the bushies

[Tim_in_HK]

1. Wow.

Just incredible.

[aden_nak]

2. Wow, that is a SHIT rubber stamping job.

Not even an attempt to blend the repeated pattern in amongst the larger crowd.

[mark11727]

49. Like a repeating wallpaper pattern ---

--- this really disrepects the troops, it treats them like a cheap background.

[DBoon]

3. If Michael Moore did something like this

You would be sure the RW would rip him a new one.

Deceit is OK only if they benefit.

[KansDem]

51. Well, Michael Moore did call Bush "the fiction president..."

This is certainly proof of that!

Makes me wonder what else is Bush fictionalizing about?*

________
*Not really! Bush's rise to GOP stardom, as well as his whole life, is one big piece of fiction.

[Cha]

81. bush is standing with fake troops and

ghouliani is blaming the troops for bush's responsibility!

[Tom Rinaldo]

4. Excellent find.

A perfect visual record of how Bush manufactures "support".

[Raster]

5. Of course they used fake troops. There is no way $hrubco can

assemble hundreds of loyal military "props." The military HATES his ass.

[LiberalEsto]

8. Fake troops, fake president n/t

[aden_nak]

The ad won't play off of Bush's website now, either.

Maybe someone noticed how BAD it looks. The big banner is still there, though.

[Occulus]

44. I got it to play

and I'm SAVING that shite

[aden_nak]

45. Well ain't you special! *wink* Ah, it's back up for me now, too.

[michigandem2]

6. oh....man...and it seemed so heartfelt...

it looked doctored on the run when I saw it actually...that is disgusting..this man is HITLER

[GreenPartyVoter]

7. Good catch!

[requiem99]

9. Yet ANOTHER Freudian slip: "Whatever it takes" is exactly right.

[Kahuna]

82. *Snarf* Good call.

nt

[riverwalker]

10. so symbolic

that is exactly what he thinks of our boys. Cannon fodder and photo-ops. Lately I've been doing a bit of a test, try it yourself. Ask any repug how many troops have died. They NEVER know, are not even close. Then ask a dem.

[durablend]

23. Their answer, of course...

"Not me or anyone else I know, so I don't know, don't care..."

[Killarney]

11. wow

[derby378]

12. Great find, eagle-eye! (n/t)

[gbwarming]

13. (farther down the kos page -They used photoshop to block out Bush*

from http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/10/27/22442/878

Ironically, they're covering up Bush (4.00 / 3)

In the original picture, Bush is speaking from a podium where the duplicate soldiers are shown. Here's the original:

[fishwax]

22. Weird ... why did they choose to block him out

were they afraid that closing with the original image would appear to militaristic? I think the ad is dumb anyway, but I would think the original image with gw would be a more powerful closing shot ...

[Radio-Active]

64. probably because it's just not a very flattering picture of Bush

not that any picture is ever flattering.

[ThoughtCriminal]

28. Very strange

I really don't understand why they shopped out Bush Jr. As propaganda, I think the original works better. I guess they just have a knee jerk reaction that accuracy must be bad.

[Minimus]

48. it appears they pasted over him with the cut out of the troops

and that is why there are dups. Sloppy job!

[bloom]

56. With Bush* taken out - who is everyone looking at?

each other?

it seems very odd.

"Whatever it takes"



That "Whatever it takes" it takes idea - REALLY pisses me off. To use it as a slogan is over the top.


"You can fool some of the people all of the time and those are the ones you want to concentrate on."

George W. Bush -- Gridiron Dinner, Washington, DC March 31, 2001

[fob]

59. Thanks for anwering my question before I had to ask WHAT was

being covered up. Isn't it just so fitting that the "cover up" is for bush*.

[ScreamingMeemie]

14. BUSTED!!!! Again....

:hi:

[dpakman91]

15. wow

absolutely preposterous, but can anyone REALLY say they are surprised?

[Poiuyt]

16. I thought it was against military law for a active duty troops to

appear in a political ad.

[MsTryska]

17. Yeah..i just caught this on the site

kos pulled it from.


isn't that hilarious?

[LisaLynne]

18. It's a hint about where he plans to get ...

all the troops he needs to take over the world. One word: Clones.

[LynzM]

19. That's sad...

And pathetic. Wow.

[Divine Discontent]

24. no surprise, they wanted a clean pic

and no matter how deceiving it is, they'll get what they want, except the desired election result!

This one got me, last night, my best friend and I went to see John Edwards at a rally here near Kennedy Space Center, and he told me about his nephew. His nephew was Army, signed up early last year and was about to be sent to Iraq in March of this year, but, like some young men do, got busted with a couple of his Army buddies doing drugs and drinking underage at a party. The thing is, they got busted, and were told they were going to be dishonorably discharged. Well they were, AFFFFFFFFFFFFTTTTTTTTEEEEEERRRRRR they served a tour in Iraq first! None of them called any news media, nor did their family, or a lawyer for that matter. So, instead the Bushies sent these men over to die for a lie even though no matter how bravely they may serve the country, they were going to be dishonorably discharged when they returned. Fortunately, they all lived, and when they returned back on the ship to Hawaii for a 2 wk. break before going home, they were forced to stay on board because of their impending DD. Can you even begin to believe this SHIOT!

That's our military.

[Texas_Dem]

20. Fake just like the past four years. Pitiful.

[JuniorPlankton]

21. How appropriate!

Everything is fake with these guys!

[TwilightZone]

25. Attack of the clones!!

I bet Bush would support genetic research if it could provide him with a cloned Army.

[Willy Lee]

26. Hahahahahahahahahhaha!!!

[Vickers]

27. An Army of five?

:shrug:

[AIJ Alom]

29. More lies and distortions from the presidency which will be remembered for

lies and distortions. Put this in the archives and send it out to the media: The * presidency in all it's glory in a 30 second ad, fake substance, 0 credibilty.

Quick * dispatch your surrogates to explain that you had a lot of twins and triplets at the rally. The freepers might just buy it !

[spanone]

30. That truly says it all. The troops are only photo ops to this man.

[ClintonTyree]

31. Unfreakingbelievable.....................

and they thought nobody would notice. This only reinforces the fact that this group is made up of nothing but liars and cheaters. I hate them for what they've done to our country, they've made a mockery of our Democracy.

[ironflange]

32. You missed some, but that's OK

It's more fun than finding Waldo!

edit: I may be wrong, after reading #13. Maybe they're brothers.

[SheWhoMustBeObeyed]

33. You guys are so suspicious

Here we see twins, triplets and even quadruplets serving our country, and all you can do is accuse someone of photoshoppery. So unfair!

</sarcasm>

<coffee>

mmmm, coffee....

[Marxdem]

34. how stupid

The original picture looked better then the photoshopped one...I wonder why they did this?

[TexasThoughtCriminal]

35. The Soviets did a better job with their airbrushed photos. nt

[AIJ Alom]

36. It's official they use air brushing to make Bush a bigger boob then he is!

[Selteri]

37. Good eye, yup, those are clones.

[pk_du]

38. Quadruplets For bush !!!!!!!...LMFAO!!!!! eom

[maxrandb]

39. Thanks Again LIBERAL Media

Why in the hell is this not reported on CNGOP, MSGOP, or Faux? My god! Could you imagine the 24/7 coverage of this in Kerry used fake troops?

I'm so pissed I can't see straight. I'm sending this link to CBS. Maybe there is still one news organization that cares about this country. ARGHHHHHHHH!

[tomfodw]

40. "Whatever It Fakes"

Lying liars. They can't even cheat properly.

[Iceburg]

89. LOL

[tomfodw]

41. "Misleading Accomplished"

The return (in a sense) of Flightsuit Boy.

You just know Rove planned that whole stunt last year in hopes of turning it into the ultimate campaign commercial. This is the revenge of that.

[Sin]

42. Failed propaganda attempt

In his next ad i can see him using clips from Jurassic park were the Dino's are eating people waring us about danger's of cloning and stem cells. Sadly some of the freepers would believe it.

[Z_I_Peevey]

53. Don't forget the robots coming to attack senior citizens.

I know it's true because Sam Waterston told me so. Robots, that's the real threat.

[Soth]

43. It's all been Photoshopped!

Bush's flight suit was probably photoshopped on him, and then he was painted on to the carrier for his Mission Accomplished.

Also, Mission Accomplished was a photoshop. It originally read "Get The Fuck Off Our Boat."

/joking, but wouldn't be surprised

[lightbulb]

98. Heehee - thanks for the laugh

It originally read "Get The Fuck Off Our Boat."

That was funny!

[slor]

46. "Whatever it takes..."

to dupe the American people again!

[SemiCharmedQuark]

47. He should have put Reagan and Lincoln in there while he was at it.

Sad thing, Bush probably believes that all those people were really there.

[Rose Siding]

54. Don't forget Kennedy and Jesus and

Oprah!

[exliontamer]

50. GET THIS TO OLBERMANN!!!!!!

He would use this for sure.

[Catfight]

52. Once upon a time there was a fake ranch, with a fake cowboy, who

was a fake president one day. His name was dubya and he liked to cry wolfe and jump to conclusions any chance he could get. His big fat mean friend Dick liked to scare everyone around him, much like bullies on your playground. One day, everyone took dubya and Dick to jail because thier lies and fears got many boys and girls killed.

[seaj11]

55. That's hilarious!

[kranich]

57. The original picture

has at least as many soldiers as the doctored one:



So why would they cut out the part of the image with Bush in it.

My only conclusion is that it is not so much a doctored photo as one cropped to suit a particular purpose. I would not want this issue to distract us from the real issue which is that Bush is incompetent.

[Neshanic]

58. At least one guy behind him is thinking...."nice ass".

[Boomer]

70. Much ado about nothing

Look, I detest Bush just as much as anyone on DU, but this is such a nothing issue. So some poor slob of a web master slightly altered a photo to create a colorful but basically vapid way to say "Click here".

So what?

The photo is filler, Bush was actually taken out, there was no intent to provide any information, so there wasn't any significant distortion of reality.

It's a BUTTON, for god's sake.

[fugop]

77. Sure ...

Of course it's much ado about nothing. But it's funny because that's what the Bush campaign constantly runs on. Kerry makes a comment and they make much ado about nothing. Which is what makes this some poetic justice.

Will it change any votes? Nah. But it certainly eats away from any GOPers trying to claim this is some kind of powerful ad! (Not that it stopped Chris Matthews from crowing that the Cheney "I never met you" lie was still a great line, but still.)

[Boomer]

85. Yeah, it's good for laugh

For about two seconds. But there must be a dozen threads about this by now on DU. Why? What's the big deal? There are hundreds of political cartoons that are worth more bandwidth than this for a good laugh.

[Skidmore]

60. Send this to Keith Olbermann....

he'll look into it for sure.

[geekgrrl]

61. I saw the ad on TV this AM and I thought they looked fake!!!

It was only shown for a split second but it seemed phoney to me!

[prof_science]

62. Too bad his audience doesn't look like KERRY's in MADISON today!

I apologize for the lame directory listing instead of a nice thumbnailed page. Did it in a hurry. (oh, long time lurker, first poster-- yes, i'm lame to have taken so long :(

http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~mjbasset/kerry

Estimated > 80k crowd!

[nothingshocksmeanymore]

79. Welcome to DU great pics!

[Roland99]

80. Who's this bitter beast??

[Roland99]

84. Eeeewwwww!!! Cover that shit up!

And the belly, too!

[prof_science]

86. ROFL, cover your eyes!

Taking too many pictures of a crowd wasn't much fun, so I had to get some shots of the VERY few dissenters in attendance. These bushies had taken a stroll through the crowd, and were treated somewhat harshly by the crowd. I mean, what did they expect? One man yelled at the woman on the right, and she freeking hauled off and slapped him in the face! Hard. He was stunned, but then just laughed at her. Were they arrested, or carted off? No.

Neither was the crazy woman with the large signs. She barely got any notice, poor girl :)

[CottonBear]

87. OMG! It's Mary Kay Laterno (sp?) n/t

[exliontamer]

88. That's what we call Wisconsin cottage cheese

Yummy!

[merh]

94. Why are the majority of your photos of anti-Kerry folks?

Just curious - seems to me you are fond of the bush*bots

[prof_science]

95. Not true. Oh Jesus not true.

Yes, it may seem that way. They were just the most comical of the people in attendance. I have many pictures of average Kerryphiles like myself, but they're not as interesting as the shots of the brave wackos who turned out. Plus, my point and shoot digital camera was not at all adequate to capture the absolute IMMENSITY and energy of the crowd...

[merh]

97. just checking!

Welcome to DU :hi: - neat photos - but I like the crowds much better than the freepshow! ;-)

[Cat Atomic]

63. "Whatever it takes". That about sums it up.

lol.

[carolinalady]

65. made it to cnn now n/t

[carolinalady]

66. NOT THE CAMPAIGNS FAULT.........

naturally. It was the editors fault.

[maddezmom]

67. the question now is why was is doctored....perhaps the crowd didn't

seem interested in the bullshit it was being spoon fed????

[JohnnyCougar]

68. Anyone have Letterman or Leno's e-mail address??

If this gets on the late night comedy shows, Bush is screwed!!!

[Hoosierdaddee]

75. Doctored photo

Oh it's all so innocent (yeah right)

The area doctored was to "replace" a crop out of the jerk in chief - guess the didn't want to ruin the image by having Pres. "Didn't complete his service" amongst the troops.

The photo-shop job was done by an "overzealous" editor working for a company contracted by BS and Chicanery '04.

All they wanted was the photo cropped - assuming they wanted the shrubbery removed - so what did they expect a hole.

When asked why this photo - cuz we liked it?

Of course CNN is bending over backwards to "downplay" the fraud.

[SidDithers]

100. Yeah, send it to Letterman...

especially after he blamed the White House for causing CNN to accuse him of doctoring that video of the kid yawning behind Bush during a speech.

I'm sure he'd love the payback.

Sid

[sniffa]

69. the cLone wars

george Lucas to sue

[Texas_Dem]

71. It is easier get fake soldiers to sign loyalty oaths.

[npincus]

72. it's like playing "Where's Waldo?"... trying to find the duplicate

soldiers!

[npincus]

73. deleted (duplicate)

[npincus]

74. deleted (duplicate)

[dubyaD40web]

76. The people on Kerry's forums are saying

that CNN is reporting the issue.

[npincus]

78. we should PhotoShop a sea of coffins back from Iraq for an ad

[doodlebugs4kerry]

83. D'oh!

[carolinalady]

90. campaign person for Bush.."editing error"

did because they took the podium with Bush out of the picture....but if you look up in the right hand corner same people. They say going to correct.

[vet_against_Bush]

91. How pathetic, contacting the national media right friggin now! nt

[Xenus Sister]

92. Didn't they get on Michael Moore's case for that one headline in F9/11?

Geez.

[TheDonkey]

93. BLAAAAHAHAHAAA!!! IDIOTS!

Worthless worthless idiots.

[NightOwwl]

96. "Original" looks photoshopped too.

Looks like they cut and pasted Bush into the picture, then they realized how fake it looked. I believe the picture of Bush smack dab in the middle of a sea of soldiers is just as fake as the cloned soldier version.

[darkism]

99. Olbermann just covered this.

"Hey, look at these guys..."

"...they look a lot like these guys, and these guys, and these guys..."

"Either this unit is composed of lots of identical twins, or the army is using advanced cloning techniques." HAHA

[ohcaity]

101. Now i hate bush,

But i think that is actually fake. If you go to chimps webpage, and look at the actual add, half of the soldiers in that image, aren't even in the frame of the add. sigh.

[Redroach]

102. fake Troops

This figures. Fer chrissakes fake troops!!

My 1st post so Hi Everyone. Go Kerry!

[Oreo]

104. Go Pack

Beat the Skins and send W back to TX

Welcome to DU!!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

103. We will shed the blood of as many poor people as it takes

to achieve our ends.

[rot0r_head]

105. George W. Bush: Against Human Cloning...?

???

[AdrianInOcala]

106. This could get out of hand.....

[AP]

107. .