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Thu Oct-28-04 03:14 PM
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LOL! Kerry camp calls on Bush to REMOVE altered AD! |
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For Immediate Release October 28, 2004 Contact: Chad Clanton or Phil Singer, 202-464-2800 KERRY CAMPAIGN CALLS ON BUSH TO PULL DOCTORED AD In response to the stunning revelation that the Bush-Cheney campaign’s much touted closing ad has been exposed as doctored, the Kerry campaign is demanding that this fake ad be taken off the airwaves immediately.
Senior Adviser Joe Lockhart issued the following statement: “Now we know why this ad is named ‘Whatever it Takes.’ This administration has always had a problem telling the truth from Iraq to jobs to health care. The Bush campaign’s advertising has been consistently dishonest in what they say. But today, it’s been exposed for being dishonest about what we see.
“If they won’t tell the truth in an ad, they won’t tell the truth about anything else. This doctored commercial is fundamentally dishonest and insults the intelligence of the American people. The Bush campaign has no choice but to take this ad down immediately and issue an apology for its latest attempt to mislead the American people.
“Unless George Bush has changed its position on human cloning, it’s got to pull this fundamentally dishonest ad immediately.”
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:15 PM
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1. Hilarious cloning reference! GREAT!!! (n/t) |
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:15 PM
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2. "Doctored" in what way? |
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:16 PM
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6. They clone-stamped a couple of soldiers over and over again |
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Apparently to replace the black soldiers in the picture. They also digitally removed Bush himself from the photo.
There are at least 5 other threads on this topic floating around, maybe more by now.
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:16 PM
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:26 PM
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29. And they want to talk about "fake documents"? |
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Sorry I have been away. And none of the media has covered this that I know of. To think these idiots have power over us.
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:49 PM
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45. I'm hoping some of the media is covering it now |
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no TV so i don't know...but that other thread made it seem like it's getting play
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:17 PM
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10. check out any of the 38 billion 'photoshopped' ad threads |
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:18 PM
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:30 PM
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37. Thanks. And they want to take down Dan Rather? |
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At least HE didn't fake those documents himself.
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:15 PM
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:16 PM
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great dig on the cloning ref.
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:16 PM
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5. ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha (these ha's have been PhotoShopped) |
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:18 PM
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14. LOLOLOLOL...my LOL have been photoshopped too! LOLOLOL |
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:16 PM
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7. Yeah, and their polls are going up, |
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too!
They have so much bad news lately..except for disillusioned curt shilling that is(who is in for a big surprise!).
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:17 PM
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9. OMFG! Hilarious...loved the cloning line...good job JOE! |
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:17 PM
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11. Tell me the cloning reference is true! This is the best story of the YEAR! |
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:17 PM
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It's really funny, especially the "cloning" part -- although I don't see much point in harping about the ad. Since all they covered was Dubya, I don't see anything sinister in the ad -- I think it's bizarre they used a picture they had to doctor instead of a real one, but I think there are much better cases to be made about Bush's lies than "If they won’t tell the truth in an ad, they won’t tell the truth about anything else.".
Maybe somebody can point out to me what is so sinister about taking Dubya out of the picture...
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:19 PM
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15. that his campaign LIED about it at first |
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denied altering the picture for starters.
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:19 PM
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...but unlike Bush's other lies, what are the consequences of this one?
It reminds me of "Clinton lied about Monica".... Who cares?
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:22 PM
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25. it's a political tactic, more than anything else |
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by responding, it's keeping it in the news. and all the american people will hear about is basically a "doctored ad" -- makes bushco look bad either way.
it's politics. and it's fun :-D
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:26 PM
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28. It's like the plastic turkey business. |
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Somebody commented at that time that a lot of people will lie if they're trapped into a bad situation (e.g. Clinton), but the Bush people lie habitually even when there's no need to and even when they have nothing to gain from it. Like there's no difference between image and reality, between truth and lies. That's what makes this significant--the fact that they didn't even have a good reason to do it, but did it anyway.
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:35 PM
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that it takes some of the wind out of this ad. Now instead of hearing how effective and damaging the ad is, we're going to hear, "Why the fuck would they photoshop this? Will it damage their credibility?"
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:52 PM
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46. Will it damage their credibility?"...LOL as if they had credibility |
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They wish they had credibility.
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:26 PM
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Will the never learn to just tell the truth? They treat us all as if we are as bright as a turnip.
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:20 PM
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...if they have no compunctions about manipulating reality in such a trivial fashion, how many reservations would they have about fabrications about matters far more important? Very little it seems...
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:24 PM
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27. If they fake this ad, what else are they faking? |
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This is actually a simple and powerful message to send to the sheeple who support chimp.
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:27 PM
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33. What else are they faking? |
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How about the Iraq WMDs, "Russians took the explosives", 9/11 investigation, etc, etc, etc.
I think that people assume that political ads are not exactly the picture of honesty. I'm worried that it will seem weak to make a case for Bush's dishonesty by harping on a political ad which was altered in no way that discernibly benefits Bush.
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:55 PM
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47. Because this is the sort of thing |
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Karl Rove would have a field day with if it was in a Dem. ad.
Who cares that it's a non-issue? It's pictoral proof of fakery. That's what resonates with some people.
I can talk to my Repub. dad about Bush's lies that sent us to war all I want but he won't believe it because he can't believe it (or his whole frame of the world would fall away)...but show him something small like this and it chips away at his faith...Bush falls another notch. It goes something like this: "I can see with my own eyes that they faked this photo. I wonder what else they fake/lie about?"
Nothing big, but the more it's pounded into their skulls the more it helps the scales fall away.
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Thu Oct-28-04 04:06 PM
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49. I can see that, good point. |
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Thu Oct-28-04 04:31 PM
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51. Exactly, a Bush voter just told me he was disgusted and there is no |
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need for this stupidity this late in the game. Rove would pound this into the ground and McClennan would be hold a press conference spouting off his doughboy mouth about how this is a political trick. Well, guess what, Bush STILL wouldn't admit to a mistake!
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:19 PM
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17. The press release is great, but this, |
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Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 03:21 PM by NightOwwl
“Unless George Bush has changed its position on human cloning...”
is priceless!
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:19 PM
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I'm in love with the Kerry campaign right now. This race reminds me of Hopkins/Trinidad, where Hopkins dominated the fight the whole time, but it was just so impossible to believe that Trinidad wasn't eventually going to land a big shot - and then in the closing rounds, Hopkins landed a flush hook and knocked Trinidad out.
All who call themselves Democrats should tip their cap to Kerry and his team next Wednesday. You may not love their politics, but they know what the fuck they're doing; a welcome change from this maladministration.
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:20 PM
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20. WAY too funny. Its hard work telling lies. |
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:21 PM
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21. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL! CLONING! HAHAHAHAHAHA! |
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bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
:kick:
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:21 PM
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:21 PM
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23. That's bestest statement ever I read for a while! |
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:21 PM
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24. Just. Fucking. Brilliant. |
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Man, these guys know how kick a guy in the nuts! I LOVE IT!!
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:27 PM
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:33 PM
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Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 03:34 PM by Debi
I just used it as my screen saver (campaign come to our office each night to use our phones...they'll really get a kick out of it)
THANKS :dem:
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:22 PM
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I am not seeing anyone pick up on it yet.
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:27 PM
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31. Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee nt |
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:27 PM
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That's the sound of Bush's "closing argument" ad campaign going up in smoke.
Ouch!
-MR
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:28 PM
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35. The power of DU, we did it! got there attention now media must grab it! |
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:28 PM
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36. Joe Lockhart is great! |
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:30 PM
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38. I agree with many of you... |
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This PS'd photo is really not all that important, but many will see and hear "Doctored AD"... which could really hurt Bush. At least I hope they hear and see it. I know some in the media are already making references to it.
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Thu Oct-28-04 04:17 PM
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50. Exactly. It's not the pic that's important, it's the lies about it. |
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Even on CNN, when Mehlman finally explained what happened, do you think most of the country will understand 'Photoshopped' and all that? No. They'll hear 'altered' and 'changed' and 'doctored'. They'll also remember the denials that the photo was changed in any way at all before the B*sh campaign finally told the Photoshop story. THAT is what the general public will take away from this little story - nagging concerns about this admin.'s dishonesty over the unimportant issues. Kind of makes it hard for them to believe Junior when he swears he's telling the truth about not knowing any explosives were missing, doesn't it? :evilgrin:
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:32 PM
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39. Yeah that's it, just keep taking it to them. n/t |
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:35 PM
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42. repuke's heads must be exploding with all the news this week :) nt |
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:36 PM
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43. Is it just me or are these guys making the mistakes we usually make? |
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I'm just amazed. If W loses, Karl Rove's image as the genius campaigner is going to lose some of its glow.
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Thu Oct-28-04 03:38 PM
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44. Yeah? Photoshop THIS! |
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Thu Oct-28-04 04:01 PM
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48. Sorry, the head Bush photoshopper doesn;t do well with crowd shots |
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:evilgrin:
Whatever it takes!
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