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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:03 PM
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CNN: Karl Rove says explosive story HELPS them
Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 07:08 PM by steve2470
John King doesn't buy it. Karl Rove only told John King the line.
The Karl Rove quote is NOT on the internet yet, AFAIK, except for right here !

Candy Crowley claims JK has "dialed it back a bit", trying not to overdo it

"..missing ammo story is a metaphor for the entire war, someone at the campaign told me..." - Crowley

"Haliburton is a good issue for them, in general...Focus groups tell them that Haliburton is negative..." - Crowley

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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:04 PM
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1. Is Rove gumming his applesauce yet?
Sounds like it.
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Iceburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:26 PM
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20. LOL eleny
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:46 PM
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31. Good one.
:thumbsup:
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:04 PM
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2. Good, I hope they can some more help like this
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:04 PM
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3. where's the link to cnn claiming rove said anything? eom
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Lefty48197 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:05 PM
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4. Rove cracks me up
He should be on comedy central. If we had any legitimate news stations left, then I would say that he does NOT belong on them.
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:25 PM
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19. Pic of Rove
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Anarcho-Socialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:06 PM
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5. Rove doth spinneth too much methinks n/t
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:06 PM
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6. Baghdad Karl....oh please
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JPace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:07 PM
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7. "Karl Rove says explosive story HELPS them"
oh sure...we really believe this. And if he had a dagger
sticking through his chest he could say it doesn't hurt
and even gives him a place to hang his hat.

Liar liar pants on fire!
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priapis Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:27 PM
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21. This is standard tactic for conservative personality-types

i have 2 friends who are cons. they do the exact same thing. when you nail them with a conclusive fact or damning example, they (independently- they dont know each other) say "this is actually good for our side." one usually goes to the extreme and says "this actually proves my case", and then cuts off discussion.

I guess its part of the brain defect that makes them anal-retentive conservatives to begin with.




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Chelsea Patriot Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:07 PM
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8. More ravings from a Meth Freak!
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:36 PM
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24. Rove is too fat to be a meth freak
NT
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w13rd0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:09 PM
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9. Rove is like that Hussein Information Minister guy...
..."WE ARE CRUSHING THE DEMOCRATS! BUSH HAS ALREADY WON IN 20 STATES! KERRY EATS CHILDREN!"
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TheDebbieDee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:14 PM
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12. LOL !
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owenthewonderdog Donating Member (22 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:21 PM
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17. Rove
Chemical Ali?

Who, in the UK, became "Comical Ali."

Howsabout Comical Karl?
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priapis Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:30 PM
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23. Baghdad Karl- "we have besiged the democrats and killed most of them"
Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 07:30 PM by priapis
i kept hoping that we would see US tanks passing behind baghdad bob's head while he was saying that "there is no invasion, no no, its not true"

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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:38 PM
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25. Now damn it!
How many times do I have to defend Baghdad Bob and his brand of comedy?

BOB= Funny
ROVE= Fat ineffective and not at all entertaining!
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PDittie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:11 PM
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10. Not being part of the reality-based community...
....EVERYTHING helps them.

Just not in the way that they think.

On the evening of November 2nd this will finally become apparent.
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:11 PM
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11. Rove Tactics....Possible:



A Rovian tactic is to spread mis-information to the enemy that makes the opponent look bad...and when it's disproven as absolute fact, it makes the enemy look bad.

Example #1.) RatherGate; the truth of Rather's facts were outweighed by the indignation of fcries of foul play, left slanted media; not checking facts, etc. Result:? Rather looked bad, CBS looked bad, and Bush was still not proven to have gone AWOL or discharged dishonorably, or gotten favored treatment because of his father.

Example #2.) Judge Election? or Senate? Rove ordered and paid to have people distribute flyers to neighborhoods that scandalized his candidate. Everyone thought that the other guy did it, and it was right before the election; he couldn't retract it...awful mess.

Hatfield?

I'm worried that Mohammed Abbas was paid favors to release the info to the IAEA. Why else would he do this right now? He knew it would hurt Bush. If he leaked the info, and it's proven that the explosives were stolen prior to the invasion, then we have egg on our face, and it detracts from the real issues.

Every time I hear Bush say: Check your facts, I shiver. (He doesn't check his facts, he lies.) But it seems like a set-up.

If someone could give me a good reason why Abbas would release this info to the IAEA, I'd appreciate it!



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patdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:17 PM
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14. The timing of the release does not CHANGE the FACTS...
sorry...facts are stubborn things..to change the focus to the timing of the release of the facts does not change the facts!!
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:46 PM
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30. Most assuredly the timing of release of facts don't change facts....
release lies, then your opponent is going to be caught up in defending those lies. That is the was Rove operates, even if the lies are slanderous to his own nominee.

But I repeat:
If someone could give me a good reason why Abbas would release this info to the IAEA, I'd appreciate it!

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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:42 PM
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28. Bullshit karl rove is going in
the toilet with his bush boy!!
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The Wielding Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:17 PM
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15. Doesn't this remind you of the old Soviet Propaganda?
Twist and Twist and out and out lie.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:17 PM
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16. Rove Is Hugely Over-Rated, Sir
He is a regional player, not a national one, and is quite out of his depth in this contest....

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"
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flordehinojos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:22 PM
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18. isn't karl rove the master of spin?
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:28 PM
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22. What do you expect him to say?
He has no choice but to try to brazen it out, hope that his base and a few of the dumber leaners will believe him.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:39 PM
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26. What's more pathetic? Rove or CNN for REPORTING THIS
Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 07:40 PM by jackstraw45
Shouldn't a "news" organization report things based somewhat on reality?

Makes me want to puke.
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:41 PM
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27. Actually, in this case I think reporting it is good
Shows how desperate and empty the other side is.
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jackstraw45 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 07:43 PM
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29. Half of Americans will BELIEVE Rove on this
We're living in a country where half the population is brainwashed.

Republicans and stupid people everywhere will believe and REPEAT this to other idiots and republicans.

Sad but true.
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 10:23 PM
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33. That's exactly what I was thinking. . .
I've never seen an administration screw up, lie about their screw up, then somehow, turn it around and blame the other side, and get it to stick the way these bastards can. I swear they must have altars to Beezelbub in the White House basement and must sacrifice innocents every day. . . wait, dumb me, that altar would actually be in Iraq and the innocents would be the citizens of Iraq and our own military (who by the way, can now also be blamed by RoveCo for any and all problems over there). Unfuckingbelievable. George Orwell would be freaked out with the shit these asswipes get away with.
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steve2470 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 10:05 PM
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32. kick nt
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