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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:33 PM
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"Liberals DO NOT think CNN is their network, particularly this year"
Just a few minutes ago on C-SPAN. They were discussing current political books and a hack managing editor from the National Review, Jay Nordlinger, said Republicans watch FOX while liberals naturally prefer CNN.

James Wolcott, contributing editor of Vanity Fair, immediately pounced. "Believe me, liberals do not think CNN is their network, particularly this year." Unfortunately, there was no followup. Incredible that CNN is still stereotyped as liberal leaning by ANYONE.

For that remark alone, Wolcott's website deserves a plug. http://jameswolcott.com/

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Fenris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:33 PM
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1. Wolcott is a god.
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:34 PM
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2. When was Wolcott on? I'd like to try to see it in repeat.
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Awsi Dooger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:40 PM
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5. It just ended at the bottom of the hour
Most likely repeated tonight. They don't seem to have debates tonight on CSPAN.

The show was titled something like, "Political Books and the 2004 Election."
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:42 PM
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6. Thanks. I got fed up with right wing radio on C-SPAN today
and turned it off. Dammit.
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Philostopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:34 PM
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3. Wolcott's very funny.
He made me spit Coke through my nose the other night, lamenting that AnnThrax's pie fiends didn't actually hit her and produce a bukkake video that would have become a darling of the Internet. He's really very good.
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Lancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:37 PM
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4. Wolcott is spot on about almost everything.
I'll be glad when I can restart my Vanity Fair subscription again. I'm in withdrawal.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:24 AM
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20. See my post# 18...
it might get you through your withdrawals.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 08:43 PM
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7. Republicans preach this crap everywhere
Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 08:43 PM by Downtown Hound
CNN is the liberal network. I don't know a single liberal that likes CNN. Not one. Get it freepers? WE HATE CNN! Allow me to repeat, WE HATE CNN!
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justgamma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:34 PM
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8. And therein lies the problem.
Since the righties have convinced their base that CNN is liberal, any real news they actually report will immediately be discounted.
Now they've done the same thing to CBS.
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Confident Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:40 PM
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9. who tells it straight?
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:56 PM
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10. Are you a Faux fan?
Edited on Thu Oct-28-04 09:58 PM by Downtown Hound
None of them tell it straight. Both, are full of shit. So is MSNBC, and the networks, although the networks to a slightly, and I stress slightly, less degree.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 09:58 PM
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11. MSNBC
isn't great, but I think it's better than CNN.
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Downtown Hound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 10:03 PM
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14. I agree
it never used to be, but then it changed hands and cleaned up a little. But it's still pretty bad. And during the Iraq War, they whored themselves so much at certain times that they gave Faux a run for their money. I still haven't forgiven them for that, and truth to be told, I still won't forgive any media outlet for that until they admit what they did and ask for it.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:46 AM
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25. CNN is a bigger laughingstock than Faux!
at least Fauz has some business sense- the current management has done nothing except run CNN into the ground- losing viewership and credibility in the process. In fact, in a class of mine last week- a student trying to make a point raised a "report" she heard on CNN and half the class laughed at her! True story!

Kind of sad- it's a hard way to learn, but my guess is that she won't be citing CNN much anymore.
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 10:01 PM
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12. I am so sick of this liberal media crapola!
I used to think that CNN was liberal until election 2004, and if I'd been reading what I should have been reading, my eyes would have been opened long before. That the news is liberally biased is spin put out by RWers, to make the media loathe to report with a liberal stance, or get the Rather accusation, or to make viewers really think that they are hearing the liberal viewpoint, when it's not.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 10:06 PM
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16. I cancelled my news cable in 2002
because I was so disgusted with their bias.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:29 AM
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21. I suspected something was wrong for a long time...
but I kept telling myself it was just my imagination. Their coverage of the DNC opened my eyes. How could I have not seen what a bunch of Bush-whores they had become? Well, better late than never I guess

I haven't watched CNN since.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 10:02 PM
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13. Their rightward tile cost them the left and their audience share halved!
But do they care, NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. They just keep driveling it out. It's the FAUX model: you align with the right wing when they come to power; you tell them you'll do everything you can to keep them in power, i.e., be the right's propoganda machine; and, in return, you want regulatory bootie.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-28-04 10:04 PM
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15. Thank the Forces of Good for
James Wolcott! At least he got it out there on the airwaves, now we need to follow up on it.

And that jay nordlinger knew he was lying when he did.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:16 AM
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17. Kick for Wolcott!
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:22 AM
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18. I highly recommend his book
"Attack Poodles and Other Media Mutants"

Since I'm not very eloquent, I'll borrow this quote from the back cover:

"...presents the disturbing and dangerous case that our national press is being bought and sold...placing our democracy in peril"

He gets it.

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seraph Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:23 AM
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19. Great post!


CNN doesn't even attempt to do anything resembling journalism anymore.

They are in shock over losing ground to FOX in the cable news ratings wars, that they've convinced themselves they need to chase that audience.

Why I have no idea; but Eason Jordan and their entire management team should be fired, along with Executive Producers, Managing Editors, and Producers.

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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:30 AM
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22. HA!
Outstanding! I'm getting particularly sick of hearing that ridiculous claim myself.
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George_S Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:32 AM
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23. "The sea was angry that day, my friends, like an ...
... old man trying to send back soup in a deli."

Thanks for the link.
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KelleyKramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 02:37 AM
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24. CNN is garbage, turn it OFF

Their polls are gabage.

They use Matt Drudge as a souce for christsake!!



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Abelman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 03:27 AM
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26. About all I can stand
Is Anderson Cooper. I think he does a pretty good job of giving both sides a voice. Paula Zahn on the other hand...

My news network is now the internet. If I want to know what's going on, I have to dig and slog my way through shit to get any real political news. It sucks.
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