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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:50 AM
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Beware of the cornered animal Rove
...with so much bad news hammering them...and now it looks like the media might actually do thier job...what should we expect from the rove camp...as they've always said the best defense is a harsh offense and they've def been on the ropes this past week.

what should we expect...terra alert, attack, etc...?
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JuniorPlankton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:51 AM
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1. Scary, scary shit!
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Grillymom Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:52 AM
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2. I still fear they will trot out Bin Ladin, however,
I imagine they would have done so by now.
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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:53 AM
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3. Anything they do at this point will be suspect. Time for
Rove to start talking to real estate agents.
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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:59 AM
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7. Rove's going to jail.
Joseph Wilson will see to it.
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evilqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:07 AM
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12. You have no idea how much I hope that is true. n/t
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Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:01 AM
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10. Speaking of real estate...Bush says home ownership is high--
At the same time the FBI finds mortgage fraud is skyrocketing...
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Memekiller Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:53 AM
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4. Media never does it's job...
It's still pretending the explosives might have been gone before the war. And just for showing the tape, they'll feel obligated to run some unsubstantiated smear job Rove gives them so they can appear "balanced" - and they'll act like that is proven fact.

You'll never go broke underestimating the media. The left needs to learn - they aren't on our side. They're on THEIR side.
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Homerr Donating Member (187 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:55 AM
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5. I will be shocked if Rove does not counter-attack by Monday.
Some dirty tricks are bound to come out this weekend if Rove's past is any indication.
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:58 AM
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6. Rove has never been in this situation and doesn't know what to do
He's always on the offensive, always making up the rules. His kind are getting their asses kicked with the truth and the little fascist is clueless. His empire is collapsing. People like you and me are turning up the heat and keeping it directed at the monsters. Let him make another mistake. Bring it on.
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michigandem2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:59 AM
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8. we are in dangerous territory but Kerry can do it and so can we!
BE PREPARED FOR ANYTHING!
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 09:59 AM
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9. Hope the Secret Service is truly watching Kerry's back
And Edwards's.
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apnu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:02 AM
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11. terra alert would be a laughing stock.
Just like the one for NYC during the RNC to scare away all the protesters.
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:08 AM
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13. Local Terra alerts...
for cleveland, NYC, chicago, LA, SF, miami, broward co, DC, boston...to try to suppress the urban vote.

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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:18 AM
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14. It's All But Too Late...
Rove tricks need a couple days to weasel their way through. Like a forged memo getting passed around then reported then "outed"...that takes time. Or attempting to pull bin Laden out of a hidey hole would smell so much of desperation politics the media now would be so cynical even Faux couldn't spin it. Also there's not many other tricks Bunnypants can do that would create that 5 point bump he'll need to cover the distorted polls Rove himself admits.

Rove and his henchmen thought Kerry would be "Gored" by now. He'd be labeled as a flip flopping traitor socialist...but, outside of his hive, those labels didn't stick. Kerry didn't roll over like Gore did. Kerry stayed his hand where needed and then built up an offense that Rove didn't expect.

Rove needs to control the news cycle...get the last word and the ultimate spin. Right now he's not able to do either. Any attack he tries now would come from being so off balance it would be easy to see and really backfire.

I expect tons of troubles at the polls if the election is close and the Repugnicans to work as hard as they can in supressing the minority vote, but the one vote they can't control...since they don't know where it's coming from...are the new registrations that we'll soon find out trumped the GOOP in LARGE numbers.

Cheers!
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DivinBreuvage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:21 AM
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15. Perhaps Rove has finally been overmatched
I'm aware of the danger of being overconfident, but as some posters here have pointed out: Rove's successes, like Hitler's early triumphs, are due largely to his opponents being divided, taken off guard, and unable or unwilling to fight back.

When Hitler finally got hammered from all sides he proved unable to rise to the challenge, and in fact locked himself into counterproductive and ultimately self-destructive decisions. Rove may well be having the same problem. People who get too used to running the show often react clumsily and unintelligently when the reins are yanked from their hands. Many times they quickly self-destruct, as the examples of Joe McCarthy and Ross Perot illustrate.

Hitler's Germany easily beat up on the small nations of Europe but found itself overwhelmed by the combined might of the Soviet Union and United States. Some folks speculate that the CIA and FBI are behind the timely release of the recent stories on Al Qaaqaa and the Halliburton contracts. If true, I think it goes without saying that the CIA and FBI are far bigger enemies than even a bad boy like Karl Rove can tangle with.



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