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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:17 AM
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Insurgents claim they recieved explosives from US intelligence...
http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=acV8ZwRrdcuY&refer=us

some insurgents claim the got the explosives from US intel?!...wow this is getting HOT!

army spokesperson won't answer question and directing reporters to the pentagon??!!

WTF is going on?!

Oct. 29 (Bloomberg) -- Explosives that went missing from Iraq's al-Qaqaa facility were still present after the U.S.-led invasion, according to ABC News, which aired a videotape shot at the site last year by a network affiliate.

U.S. soldiers are shown breaking into a bunker and then looking into crates and barrels marked ``explosive'' on the tape from KSTP, a station in St. Paul, Minnesota. KSTP's crew was embedded with the U.S. 101st Airborne Division when it passed through al-Qaqaa on April 18, 2003, ABC said on its Web site.

... ``The fact that there's a photo of what looks like an IAEA seal means that what's behind those doors is HMX,'' David Albright, president of the Institute for Science and International Security in Washington, said on the tape. Only bunkers that had HMX in them were sealed, he said.

A group calling itself the al-Karar Brigade of al-Islam's Army Brigades said it has the explosives and will use them against foreign troops in Iraq, according to a videotape from the group obtained by the Associated Press and shown by broadcasters worldwide.

The group said it got the material through members of ``the American intelligence,''according to their videotape. The speaker was surrounded by masked, armed men in front of a black banner with the group's name. The claim couldn't be independently verified.

A U.S. military spokesman contacted by telephone in Baghdad today said questions about the ABC footage should be directed to the Pentagon. Lieutenant Colonel Barry Venable, a Pentagon spokesman, didn't immediately return a call seeking comment.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:22 AM
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1. well that is ripe...wouldn't surprise me
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:35 AM
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2. If you want and need a violent opposition...
it always helps to equip a violent opposition.
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rndmprsn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:40 AM
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4. i'm starting to see the pattern...
not taking out zarqawi multiple times when they had the chance in order to bolster their case for invading iraq...then equiping the insugents to help create a crisis that bush* the steps in to solve....
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Tim_in_HK Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:38 AM
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3. As much as I hate this admin,
let's take a bit of perspective as to the messenger.
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clover Donating Member (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:40 AM
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5. possible halliburton connection? resale of weaponry?(nt)
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RafterMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 10:46 AM
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6. It just sounds bogus
The stuff wasn't guarded -- why would they need to cooperate with US troops to get it? Also, their threat to use them sounds off-key. If they were saving them for an American attack on an Iraqi city, why not Najaf, or the last assault on Fallujah?

It seems likely some insurgents have the stuff, but dubious that the guys who made the tape are the ones.
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bloom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 11:49 AM
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7. The sad thing is that with all of the law-breaking going on by the Bush*
administration, etc. - that this could be a possibility.



If they "win" the election - it will only be because they broke or sub-verted the laws.



“Q Mr. President, I wanted to return to the question of torture. What we've learned from these memos this week is that the Department of Justice lawyers and the Pentagon lawyers have essentially worked out a way that U.S. officials can torture detainees without running afoul of the law. So when you say that you want the U.S. to adhere to international and U.S. laws, that's not very comforting. This is a moral question: Is torture ever justified?

THE PRESIDENT: Look, I'm going to say it one more time. If I -- maybe -- maybe I can be more clear. The instructions went out to our people to adhere to law. That ought to comfort you. We're a nation of law. We adhere to laws. We have laws on the books. You might look at those laws, and that might provide comfort for you. And those were the instructions out of -- from me to the government.”
:eyes:

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/06/20040610-36.html
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