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Fri Oct-29-04 10:31 AM
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Faux News claiming a Soldier has come forth |
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to say he moved some of these explosives to Bagdad. Anyone hear that?
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:32 AM
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:33 AM
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:33 AM
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6. Yup! Packed up them explosives in his old kit bag |
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And smiled, smiled, smiled.
Ah, the sweet stench of desperation.
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:32 AM
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and how many pounds of explosives would that be?
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:32 AM
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remember for over a year they were telling us about the WMDs
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:33 AM
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Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 10:36 AM by Stuckinthebush
I call BS on Fox News.
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:34 AM
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It took 5 days to "find" him. |
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:35 AM
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:52 AM
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38. Well, he was carrying all of those explosives. |
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It took him a while to walk all the way back! ;)
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:34 AM
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no one believes them..well no one who can think rationally. the photo evidence is there ,it`s just karl`s latest bid to save chimpy`s ass...
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:37 AM
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16. You can't dismiss fauxnuze |
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like that. A lot of people follow them, and a lot of them believe it. Then again, a lot of people are voting for bush also.
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:51 AM
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36. only the mouth breathing true believers. no chance to get their vote anyw |
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:34 AM
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8. Then the soldier will be coming up on charges before a military court |
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That was an illegal action for him unless he was ordered to do so. If he was ordered to do so, his commander will be coming up on charges.
When's teh court martial?
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:35 AM
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9. All right, well, then what happened to it after that? (eom) |
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:35 AM
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10. Movement of those explosives would have been documented |
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And no doubt the Pentagon would have had them all over the news 5 minutes after the NYT story broke.
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:47 AM
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97. Or maybe "Buckhead" would have come up with something by now. |
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Yeah. Let's put "Buckhead" on it. Shouldn't he blog his way through all this for us? Maybe he and kkkarl are still working on it...
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:35 AM
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11. and the caveats, explanations, and diversions just keep on twisting |
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:36 AM
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Did he just move these 200 tons by himself, on his own, or was it a military operation? Of course it had to have been the latter; then explain to me why the Pentagon was showing satellite photos as late as yesterday, what happened with the "Russians moved it" story, etc, etc.
I love watching the wheels come off Dubya's ride.
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:36 AM
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14. sounds like one of the swift boat liars |
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:39 AM
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17. EXPLOSIVES STEALING SOLDIERS FOR TRUTH |
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:48 AM
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29. You shouldn't make me laugh at work |
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People are looking at me funny.
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:53 AM
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**wiping eyes** Thank you!
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:37 AM
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15. so that means he knows where they are in Bagdad? |
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or did he just bring them - all 380 tons - into the city and leave them on a street corner?
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:40 AM
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18. How could that be possible since the Russians moved them all? |
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This reminds me of the "yawning boy" video which the White House explained by saying that the boy wasn't even at the Bush rally, and the boy wasn't yawning, and besides the boy was standing someplace else. Then the White House admitted that the boy was standing behind Bush and was yawning but it was the fault of the boy's father for keeping the boy up all night.
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:40 AM
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Who put them back again to be videotaped?
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:41 AM
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20. Moved them up the Tigris in a swift boat, probably |
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:41 AM
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He stuffed it down his sock...actually he didn't have all 380 tons, only some of it...the others were being spirited out the air ventilation shafts by Russian speaking Syrians wearing Al Queda uniforms and being paid by the French with U.N. Food For Oil Money.
Oh, and didn't you know, this man also claims he found WMDs...he has a copy of the O'Reilly tapes :evilgrin:
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:25 AM
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73. He called "Two Guys from Langley" moving company. |
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Hey, they brought the dollys. He kicked in for the pizza and the Shasta.
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:41 AM
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22. But I thought Saddam had moved them before the war |
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:44 AM
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24. No this one guy took the explosives that weren't there and secured them |
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by allowing the Russians to take them before he got there!
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:43 AM
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23. And no one noticed??? |
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One would think that repeated trips to an ammo dump would arouse some curiosity. Maybe even a comment of, "Hey, dude, where you going with that warhead?"
I know Bunnypants has his supporters in the military but when they start making things up they just end up looking ridiculous.
MzPip :dem:
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:44 AM
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25. Must have been "Hard Work (TM)." |
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:45 AM
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26. Three Hundred Eighty Tons.. |
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They must have got that mixed up with the script for a Terminator movie...
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:45 AM
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27. If they'd tried this IMMEDIATELY |
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It might have sold. Now, it just looks like another excuse since everything else they've tried has flopped.
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:49 AM
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32. It's Friday. It's too late. |
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:46 AM
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28. See it isn't George's fault, it never is. |
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:49 AM
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30. If this does not work..... |
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Pentagon will have a press conference of a stallite of President Clinton giving the explosives to the bad guys....hahaha...these guys are pathetic....dragging a soldier out to save Bush's but!
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:51 AM
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35. Our sattelite images clearly show a giant penis loading the explosives |
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onto a fleet of trucks marked 'KERRY / EDWARDS 2004'.
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:51 AM
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John Kerry singlehandedly took them and gave them all to Jane Fonda.
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:49 AM
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31. "And then my dog ate them! I swear!" |
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:50 AM
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33. GOOD GOD!!! This is their FOURTH excuse on this one!!! |
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Show me the god damned orders!
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:51 AM
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34. Was he stealing it to take some home like some of the journalists |
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and other soldiers took a lot of art from Saddam's mansion?
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:53 AM
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39. Pentagon Denies Truth Three Times... |
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before the cock crows.
This is a political attempt to stop the bleeding and help win the election for Bush. This poor guy is going to say in a few minutes that he helped remove approx 200 tons of explosives on April 13th, after the Russians (according to Fox and Lou Dumbs) spirited them away before we got there.
Problem is, this is yet another lame attempt to prove something we can't verify. Over a year ago, in the case of Saddam's WMD, they used satellite photos, and we believed them.
Yesterday, they tried that same shit. But now we're onto them. Then came the news video that they didn't know existed. Wham!
Now they suddenly have an eyewitness? Riiiiight. Just happened to be in Washington, huh? Sure. I believe it. No records? So we just have to trust him, right? Cuz the Pentagon says so...
This shit will only work for Freepers looking for somethign to believe in. They spent all week on the Russian angle. Now that has flopped. So they will move on to this crap.
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:53 AM
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:55 AM
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LIES :grr: LIES :grr: LIES :grr: LIES :grr: LIES :grr: LIES :grr: LIES :grr: LIES :grr:
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:17 AM
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63. The more you lie, the more you have too. |
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:58 AM
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43. He's lying...*I* found the explosives |
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and I traded them to him for 5 cartons of cigarettes.
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:58 AM
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44. "Video May Show Explosives at Al-Qaqaa " |
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MAY?????? WTF is MAY??? I saw the tape. I ain't stupid. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=540&e=4&u=/ap/us_iraq_weaponsWhen the Pentagon says something, they pass it on as gospel (which it never is). But when it goes against them, its MAY???
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:58 AM
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45. Oh my fucking god! These people are unbelievable.... |
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how do they sleep at night...unless they have no conscious.
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Fri Oct-29-04 10:58 AM
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46. Why didn't they tell the UN this? |
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Hasn't the UN been asking them about these explosives for over a year? Why didn't they tell them this until NOW? Heck, why not give them this answer when they wrote the letter three weeks ago? But of course no one in the media will think to ask this question. :mad:
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:00 AM
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47. I like how fox has run the alert every 30 seconds!!! |
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But when the video was out i took all day to come out.
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:01 AM
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48. I got a bad feeling about this. At best, it may muddy the waters. |
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At worst, it will give the corporatized media whores the chance they need to yap about Kerry being shrill and too eager to attack Bush to be trusted as C-in-C.
If there's even the slightest chance that there's a legitimate explanation for disappearance of the Al Qaqa explosives...to lose our momentum this close to Election Day...shit...
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:16 AM
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61. I don't see how this can help them? |
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This is excuse number 4 (or 5? I can't keep up).
Yesterday they spent all day trying to convince people the Russians did it, then at the end of the day they released a photo showing a couple trucks.
Today they say 'oh yeah, we forgot, they were destroyed'.
There must be records they are required to keep when they destroy substantial weapons caches.
Why did they remove it and take it to Baghdad? When did they remove it?
Coming up with a different answer every day doesn't look good at all.
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:28 AM
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78. It doesn't need to be true. Or even logical. |
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Anything that might possibly explain it away to the satisfaction of the media whores. Anything that sounds good enough - the way all of the previous explanations didn't - anything that doesn't have ridiculously large holes in it. I'm scared that we're going to slip up at the last minute. This election is extremely close, and I don't want it to get away.
I keep waiting for the other shoe to drop - for something bad to happen (bad for us) that will hand the election to Bush. Sorry if my nervousness contradicts the officially mandated mood here on DU, but I can't help it.
I don't want this to be the "October surprise" we've all been fearing - Rove diabolically suckering Kerry into going after Bush full blast on the "missing" explosives only to triumphantly reveal that they were never missing. Would make Kerry seem like a weak, hysterical, desperate, LOSING challenger.
Please tell me that's not happening. Thanks.
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:29 AM
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81. 'officially mandated mood'. |
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Rather obnoxious remark, I would say.
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:32 AM
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83. I understand and share some of your fears |
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When I first heard this I was worried, however upon reflection it doesn't seem like it can help them.
I just read the Soldier claims he took some out April 13th, the video is dated April 18th.
Also, shouldn't there be a paper trail, or an eyewitness or perhaps an embed to verify this?
This just smacks of desperation.
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:04 AM
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are issued 50 dump trucks?
What the fuck? Over.
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:12 AM
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57. Pentagon PC coming up now.. |
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MSNBC waiting for the PC, saying some soldier from the 3rd Infantry Division heard all the press reports and came forward saying he believes these are the explosives he (and his troops I assume) were tasked to destroy.
WTF! Does anyone know who did what with this stuff?
The PC room (on split screen) looks nearly empty at this point.
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:07 AM
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50. They are going to say they were destroyed? |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:09 AM
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51. You can't make this shit up... |
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First the Russians, and now this. LOL I'm seriously going to have a stroke while reading this bullshit.
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:10 AM
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only he has the power to move 380 tons of explosives.
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:10 AM
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53. The White House is DESPERATELY trying to quell this story |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:10 AM
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54. In my best church lady voice... "How convieeeenent..." |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:12 AM
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55. Hulking Mammoth Solider For Truth say.. |
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I carried ALL 200 tons with the help of a wolfpack and some Swift Boat guys..
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:12 AM
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56. Simple question: PROOF? |
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Satellite photos?
Military orders?
Video?
Pix of the stuff stockpiled wherever they put it?
Report on destruction of it?
Communications w/IAEA or UN about movement of it?
Anything? Something? or
NOTHING?
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:14 AM
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:16 AM
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stop the washing machine I want to get off!
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Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 11:43 AM by pbl
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:16 AM
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62. 1/1000th they keep saying it. |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:18 AM
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64. OMG they sent out some low level peon to SPIN the story |
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LOL. He is stumbling all over the place and spinning like a top.
Where is Rummy and the top brass?
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:18 AM
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65. Can anyone make sense of this jibberish? |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:19 AM
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66. What is he saying????!!!!! |
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He's making my fucking head hurt!!!! BULLSHIT, cough, cough
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:25 AM
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72. what a load of horseshit |
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Get to the point already. My God. what a transparent piece of Bullshit. Please tell my people can see through this hack. "It's not our place to judge until the facts are in..." and on and on and on
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:20 AM
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67. Shill. shill. shi!!!!!!! |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:21 AM
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68. So what? The point is that when they were discovered |
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the explosives should have been either destroyed or SECURED! If they were all moved by the Bush coalition, where are they? So what if it would have meant getting to Baghdad a couple of days later?
:headbang: rocknation
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:27 AM
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75. According to Rumsfeld... |
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As we know, There are known knowns. There are things we know we know. We also know There are known unknowns. That is to say We know there are some things We do not know. But there are also unknown unknowns, The ones we don't know We don't know.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ That about covers it, right?
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:23 AM
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69. Anyone know what this fool is saying? |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:23 AM
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70. He is talking about everything but the RMX |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:25 AM
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71. This is happening on a Friday because it needs to be buried. |
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Any scrutiny and it falls to pieces.
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:26 AM
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74. I WANT TO SEE THE ORDERS!!!!! |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:27 AM
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76. Destroyed in a fire? Great. LOL |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:28 AM
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77. And I bet his father trained with Bush in the Alabama National Guard n/t |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:29 AM
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79. Where is this press conference being streamed?? ANYONE? |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:29 AM
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80. Look at the key word here "He thinks" |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:31 AM
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82. this guy sounds like rumsfeld or what |
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this pentagon spokesman almost more difficult to follow than the maj austin
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:33 AM
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84. The reporters are hammering them! |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:35 AM
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85. This is to save Guiliani's ass too |
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Since he blamed the troops you have to make it look like the troops did good
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:36 AM
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86. This infuriates me beyond no end!!! |
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I want clear answers. I want orders. They don't even know if this was the facility, they don't know if it is even the explosives in question, he did not even see a seal. Kicking up dust to confuse!!!
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:37 AM
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87. maj austin not seen the video?! |
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yea right!!! his going to talk to the world about this and has not seen the video!
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:38 AM
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:39 AM
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90. yes that's very clear |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:39 AM
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89. and nobody in the pentagon knew this till now???????? |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:39 AM
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:41 AM
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92. was that the IAEA marked units..."I DON"T KNOW" |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:41 AM
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93. Isn't Di Rita the guy that said the RUSSIANS took it?? |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:46 AM
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96. No. I think that was Josh Shaw |
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Fri Oct-29-04 12:02 PM
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100. Yeah....you're right. |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:42 AM
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94. Who's that boob reporter from FOX? |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:44 AM
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95. Da Rita jumps in to cover the Major's ass and his own ass when his answers |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:48 AM
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98. And the story continues. |
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Fri Oct-29-04 11:54 AM
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99. Maybe he's one of Ashlee Simpson's band members. |
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