Yet another Rove miscalculation

[stevietheman]

Today's Pentagon press conference on the Bush administration's latest explosives excuse will backfire.

First of all, their story doesn't compute.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=1520&ncid=1520&e=3&u=/afp/20041029/pl_afp/iraq_us_explosives_041029160137

The soldier says "we" removed the explosives on April 13.

However, we all now know the Minneapolis news video shows explosives on April 18.

On top of that, also consider the answer to reporters that basically reads "We don't know that the explosives we're talking about are the same as the explosives in question". Wow.

In terms of political fallout, it was the Bush campaign that lost several campaign days to Kerry's attacks. All this news conference will do is muddy the issue and raise more questions. It's far from a slam-dunk against Kerry. If anything, most of the damage against Bush will remain.

Rove miscalculated, again.

[grytpype]

1. Rove only wins when the game is fixed in his favor.

He's no genius, people.

He "won" in 2000 because of Repugs on the Supreme Court.

He "won" numerous news cycles because the Press was too pussified and scared to challenge his lies.

They are no longer too pussified and scared to challenge his lies, so now he is losing.

[rocktivity]

14. The media are caught between a rock and a hard place now

Bush's greatest weapon has been a sychophantic, stenographic national media who expect to be rewarded with legislation which will allow them to expand their monopolies. The Democrats had nothing to combat it with until, to use DU's slogan from early days, the revolution went online.

It really started with the ousting of Trent Lott as House speaker for his racist remarks, and has manifested itself most recently with the exposure of the doctored visual in Bush's latest campaign commercial. In between there was AWOL, Black Box Voting, Michael Moore, Take Back The Media, Fat Osama, the blogosphere, LIHOP, Air America, oversampled polls and Bush's bulge--none of which the national media has been able to blow off as the work of a tiny, ragtag group of left-wing digital dissidents. And it culminated in the Democratic convention inviting bloggers to join their press corps (causing MSNBC to have their convention reporters run "personal" blogs as well as file "regular" stories).

If the mainstream media continue to shill for and enable the Bush empire, they will continue to get called on and caught out by the Atrioses and Bev Harrises. But they must also keep in mind that if they give President Kerry the kind of coverage they gave President Clinton, he might develop a taste for corporate media "reform." So they have no choice but to split the baby by doing their jobs--on this issue, at least!

:headbang:
rocknation

[DrFunkenstein]

2. Story Not Buried

But we appreciate the effort.

[BattyDem]

3. "we removed the explosives on April 13"

And it's taken them five days to tell us that? I thought the Russians moved them ... I thought they were gone before we got there. :eyes:

[Canuckistanian]

4. It doesn't really matter

Nothing has come out which really disproves this story, it's all just hor air and speculation.

Anyway, the scandal is using up valuable campaign time. The more they have to play defense, the less time thy have to smear.

[ThePhilosopher04]

7. My question is, WTF is going on over there!!!...

It's indisputable that the IAEA sealed the explosives at Al QaQaa and alerted the U.S. of the dangers of allowing them to fall into the wrong hands.

Whether they were moved prior to the invasion, after the invasion, or were simply left unguarded and looted, at the very least, we should have made a concerted effort to secure the facility and document thoroughly everything that was found or not found. The military should have had an answer for this almost immediately the day the first New York Times story broke.

Obviously the political fallout is a major plus for Kerry, but the disturbing thing to me is WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE FUCK WE'RE DOING OVER THERE!!!

[kranich]

5. The Major

said that they removed explosives. OK I buy that. But he also said that the explosives they removed did not have the "seals".

Duh- obviously they are not the same ones.

[stevietheman]

8. Very good point. n/t

[Proud2BAmurkin]

6. It was an act of desperation and they always backfire

.

[Contrary1]

9. Right...

"He went through and moved 200 tons from those bunkers, including plastic explosives,"

There needs to be a whole lot more "He's" show up to get this one off the ground.

[Connie_Corleone]

10. And the explosives...

miraculously re-appeared April 18th. :eyes:

[DuaneBidoux]

15. Yea' I was thinking, I want to hire this guy to replace my

entire crew unloading ships...I could pay him $400 an hour and still save a ton of money. He's moving 200 tons in one day? The guy IS Superman.

[priapis]

11. SAW NO IAEA SEALS. HMX under seal . conference means nothing.

[Iceburg]

12. Rove's ship has hit an iceberg ...not even CNN

can save his a$$ this time.

[Contrary1]

13. "They only went through the ones

that were easily accessible". ??????

Yesterday, they were saying it would have been easy to take the stuff out through the vents. After 4 years, this bunch still never fails...to amaze me.

[Goldmund]

16. I actually think that this will AMPLIFY the damage

because now, it's not just the explosives; it's the obvious shifting of excuses and obvious deception -- in other words, a coverup.

[The_Casual_Observer]

17. They had no answers for days and days. They were all

puzzled, including rumsfeld. They even went so far as to blame Russia. Then days later they come up with some grunt and use hearsay evidence, nothing written mind you, not even a field report, the calendar dates don't even match. Is this the kind of leadership this country is counting on?

[PerfectSage]

18. * & Leadership

From what I've read on leadership, it's blatantly obvious to me that Dubya doesn't have a clue about real(ity based) leadership. IMO if Dubya has a clue as to what constitutes real leadership, after he gets booted out of the WH he would volunteer in a VA hospital or raise funds for charities for veterans & Iraqis for the rest of his life to atone for his screwups.

But, in Dubya's faith based leadership model lying, incompetence, and buckpassing constitute "strong" leadership.

B/C No Mo' Years :party::toast: