RememberTheCoup
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:22 PM
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My state-by-state predictions - tell me where you disagree |
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I'm probably being overly cautious or pessimistic about a lot of these, but tell me if you think I'm way off on any of them. I'm using the electoral-vote.com format of strong/weak/barely, Bush/Kerry, but these are just my own guesses -- probably as accurate as any poll, right?
I'm especially interested in areas where you think I have one state more toward the Kerry side and another state more toward the Bush side that you think should be reversed (e.g. "I think XX is a safer state than YY but you have YY as weak Kerry and XX as barely Kerry"). I know some of my regional designations are a little weird too. And I'm counting all the "barely" states along with the tossups as "battleground". I welcome any suggestions.
KERRY ------------
West Coast: CA 55 strong Kerry OR 7 strong Kerry WA 11 strong Kerry total 73
East Coast: ME 4 strong Kerry VT 3 strong Kerry MA 12 strong Kerry NY 31 strong Kerry RI 4 strong Kerry CT 7 strong Kerry NJ 15 strong Kerry DE 3 strong Kerry MD 10 strong Kerry DC 3 strong Kerry total 92
Midwest: MN 10 weak Kerry WI 10 strong Kerry MI 17 weak Kerry IL 21 strong Kerry PA 21 weak Kerry total 79
Grand Total Kerry 244
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Alaska & Far West: AK 3 strong Bush ID 4 strong Bush MT 3 strong Bush WY 3 strong Bush UT 5 strong Bush AZ 10 strong Bush total 28
West: ND 3 strong Bush SD 3 strong Bush NE 5 strong Bush KS 6 strong Bush OK 7 strong Bush TX 34 strong Bush MO 11 strong Bush LA 9 strong Bush total 78
Midwest/Upper South: IN 11 strong Bush KY 8 strong Bush WV 5 strong Bush VA 13 strong Bush total 37
South: TN 11 strong Bush MS 6 strong Bush AL 9 strong Bush total 26
Southeast: NC 15 strong Bush SC 8 strong Bush GA 15 strong Bush total 38
Grand Total Bush 207
BATTLEGROUND ------------ HI 4 barely Kerry AR 6 barely Bush NH 4 barely Kerry NV 5 barely Bush CO 9 barely Bush NM 5 tossup OH 20 tossup FL 27 barely Bush IA 7 barely Bush total 87
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:26 PM
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1. I would put VA and NC as battleground. |
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They may be weak Bush, but I think VA may be possible.
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:28 PM
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2. I think ohio and pa are stronger kerry . |
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:31 PM
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5. I have PA as weak K and OH as tossup |
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Would you call OH barely Kerry or weak Kerry?
Do you really think PA is strong Kerry?
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:29 PM
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3. LA won't be a strong Bush |
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Those polls are bogus. It'll be closer. We have a chance here.
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:30 PM
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4. For the life of me, I'll never understand how Hawaii became a swing state. |
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:33 PM
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8. Well, I'm skeptical myself. |
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But since Dems are doing some campaigning there I figured there must be something in their own internals. If it was just national polls I might discount it.
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:31 PM
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Polls show Bush up by 5, but I have a feeling Kerry can take it.
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:32 PM
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WA,OR,CA,HI,NM,IA.MN,WI,IL,MI,OH,PN,NY,VT,NH,ME,MA,RI,CT,NJ,DE,MD,DC
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:35 PM
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9. Disagree on MO strong Bush |
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Shrub was at 48% in this week's STL Post-Dispatch poll, with Kerry within the MOE.
When Mo goes blue, it will officially be an electoral landslide.
Some wishful thinking, but we have to remain positive here for the big final push.
Wish me luck, my precinct sucks (mostly Shrub)
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:35 PM
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10. I don't care what the polls say.... |
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I don't believe for a minute that TN is STRONG Bush. He may be up a few points but not a double digits. I talk to people from all across the state and there is way to much Kerry support for * to be have a HUGE lead.
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:36 PM
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11. MN is stronger for Kerry than WI |
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WI, MN and IA are all still battleground but are leaning Kerry. Of the three, Wisconsin has greatest likelihood to go Bush.
HI is not battleground.
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Fri Oct-29-04 03:30 PM
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20. I agree with that assessment |
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Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 03:30 PM by Lydia Leftcoast
The Twin Cities are about 80-20 Kerry, and even the suburbs appear to be 50-50, judging by the lawn signs. Add in the Iron Range (strong labor tradition and organized Democrats), and various pissed-off Republicans elsehwere, and you have MN going for Kerry. Not to mention Jesse Ventura's recent endorsement, which will probably sway a few guys from the beer suburbs.
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:37 PM
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12. I think FL will go for Kerry, unless Jeb steals it nt |
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:52 PM
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13. bush needs 63 out 87 kerry needs 26 out 87 according to your poll |
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ARKANSAS IN PLAY louisiana within 5% big effort to get vote out RETIRING BREAUX ORGANIZING POLLS DO NOT TRACE THIS VOTES do not count WV AND VIRGINIA VOTE--- http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6092749THEY KEEP STARTING NEW POLLS KERRY KICKING ASS
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:53 PM
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14. Okay -- NEW PREDICTIONS based on your input |
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Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 03:04 PM by RememberTheCoup
I'd like to come to eventually come to a rough consensus. These are based on suggestions in posts #1-12. But remember: I want to remain on the cautious side. Keep those suggestions coming!
OH changed from tossup to barely Kerry PA changed from weak Kerry to strong Kerry HI changed from barely Kerry to weak Kerry (added to Kerry total) WI changed from strong Kerry to weak Kerry MN left as is (weak Kerry) IA changed from barely Bush to tossup VA changed from strong Bush to weak Bush NC changed from strong Bush to weak Bush LA changed from strong Bush to weak Bush AZ changed from strong Bush to weak Bush MO changed from strong Bush to weak Bush TN changed from strong Bush to weak Bush FL changed from barely Bush to tossup (I'm still too wary of vote theft there to make it any stronger for Kerry)
KERRY ------------
Hawaii & West Coast: HI 4 barely Kerry CA 55 strong Kerry OR 7 strong Kerry WA 11 strong Kerry total 77
East Coast: ME 4 strong Kerry VT 3 strong Kerry MA 12 strong Kerry NY 31 strong Kerry RI 4 strong Kerry CT 7 strong Kerry NJ 15 strong Kerry DE 3 strong Kerry MD 10 strong Kerry DC 3 strong Kerry total 92
Midwest: MN 10 weak Kerry WI 10 weak Kerry MI 17 weak Kerry IL 21 strong Kerry PA 21 strong Kerry total 79
Grand Total 248
BUSH ------------
AK & Far West: AK 3 strong Bush ID 4 strong Bush MT 3 strong Bush WY 3 strong Bush UT 5 strong Bush AZ 10 weak Bush total 28
West: ND 3 strong Bush SD 3 strong Bush NE 5 strong Bush KS 6 strong Bush OK 7 strong Bush TX 34 strong Bush MO 11 weak Bush LA 9 weak Bush total 78
Midwest/Upper South: IN 11 strong Bush KY 8 strong Bush WV 5 strong Bush VA 13 weak Bush total 37
South: TN 11 weak Bush MS 6 strong Bush AL 9 strong Bush total 26
Southeast: NC 15 weak Bush SC 8 strong Bush GA 15 strong Bush total 38
Grand Total 207
BATTLEGROUND ------------ AR 6 barely Bush NH 4 barely Kerry NV 5 barely Bush CO 9 barely Bush NM 5 tossup OH 20 barely Kerry FL 27 tossup IA 7 tossup total 83
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Fri Oct-29-04 02:57 PM
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15. HI, NH, and OHIO are definitely for Kerry |
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NM looks like it will go to Bush (but is still in play)
I think Kerry will win FL
Unfortuantely Wisconsin is not "strong Kerry" according to the polls. I think Kerry will win WI, and if he does not carry FL, he MUST win WI.
HI 4 Kerry AR 6 Bush NH 4 Kerry NV 5 Bush CO 9 Bush NM 5 Bush OH 20 Kerry FL 27 Kerry IA 7 Bush
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Fri Oct-29-04 03:05 PM
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17. I don't think NM will go Bush |
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Zogby's state polls may be wrong here.
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Fri Oct-29-04 03:02 PM
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that there will be an upset in Colorado, and it will go Kerry.
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Fri Oct-29-04 03:06 PM
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18. I think we pick off FL and keep IA as well. |
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Fri Oct-29-04 03:24 PM
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19. MORE NEW PREDICTIONS based on your input |
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These changes are based on suggestions in posts #13-18. Almost all of the suggestions have been toward Kerry's favor. I hope you're all right. I prefer to be more cautious, but I'll go with the flow. Keep those suggestions coming!
NH changed from barely Kerry to weak Kerry (added to Kerry total) AR changed from barely Bush to tossup NM changed from tossup to barely Kerry CO changed from barely Bush to tossup IA changed (again) from tossup to barely Kerry
KERRY ------------
Hawaii & West Coast: HI 4 barely Kerry CA 55 strong Kerry OR 7 strong Kerry WA 11 strong Kerry total 77
East Coast: ME 4 strong Kerry VT 3 strong Kerry NH 4 weak Kerry MA 12 strong Kerry NY 31 strong Kerry RI 4 strong Kerry CT 7 strong Kerry NJ 15 strong Kerry DE 3 strong Kerry MD 10 strong Kerry DC 3 strong Kerry total 96
Midwest: MN 10 weak Kerry WI 10 weak Kerry MI 17 weak Kerry IL 21 strong Kerry PA 21 strong Kerry total 79
Grand Total Kerry 252
BUSH ------------
AK & Far West: AK 3 strong Bush ID 4 strong Bush MT 3 strong Bush WY 3 strong Bush UT 5 strong Bush AZ 10 weak Bush total 28
West: ND 3 strong Bush SD 3 strong Bush NE 5 strong Bush KS 6 strong Bush OK 7 strong Bush TX 34 strong Bush MO 11 weak Bush LA 9 weak Bush total 78
Midwest/Upper South: IN 11 strong Bush KY 8 strong Bush WV 5 strong Bush VA 13 weak Bush total 37
South: TN 11 weak Bush MS 6 strong Bush AL 9 strong Bush total 26
Southeast: NC 15 weak Bush SC 8 strong Bush GA 15 strong Bush total 38
Grand Total Bush 207
BATTLEGROUND ------------ AR 6 tossup NV 5 barely Bush CO 9 tossup NM 5 barely Kerry OH 20 barely Kerry FL 27 tossup IA 7 barely Kerry battleground total 79
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