I don't believe this "new" OBL tape is real. Doesn't pass the smell test.

[apnu]

Look how close it is to the Election.

Look how close it is to the other fake "American" tape

Look at how OBL is all peace and flowers (relatively) in the tape.

Its too weird for it to be real, it seems like a pointless exercise for OBL to do. IF it's OBL at all. I've yet to hear of someone able to authenticate this tape as OBL. There have been other fakes before.

What I do sense is a whole lot of jumping the gun in here and in the MSM.

[captainjack]

1. wasn't he purported to be on a dialysis tube for a while

what, did his kidneys all of a sudden clear up and decide to work around november time?

[orestes]

4. To be fair

when one is on dialysis, one isnt hooked up to the machine all the time. The way it was for my grandma, is she had dialysis sessions 3 days a week that lasted several hours at a time. The dialysis wouldnt leave him totally incapacitated all the time, just some of the time depending on how often and how long his sessions were, so even if he were still having dialysis now, he would still be able to do whatever the hell it is terrorist masterminds do without much hinderance.

[LZ1234]

2. That thought occurred to me too.

[Davion]

3. I keep thinking of the Mosh video

When Osama makes his "appearance"

[PleadTheFirst]

7. I was thinking the same exact thing.

[Radio-Active]

5. anyone have a transcript/

translation??

[mike_c]

6. well, at least now we know Rove won't be pulling OBL...

...out of the freezer!

[C_U_L8R]

8. Isn't it halloween

It's hard to tell from the small photo on CNN's site
but it looks more like some poor sap dressed up
in an OBL suit - his features (besides the beard)
look very diferent to me- shape of the area around
his eyes, nose, lips, cheeks. A better picture may
help...... but y'know what... I really don't care if it's
him or not. I'm just reminded again that Bush has not
kept his promise

[PATRICK]

9. On the other hand

This would be the best fake they have ever done, making all other real or not tapes look pathetic. I suppose an extremely sophisticated method might match voice and lips and money with the image, but that is exactly the sort of thing the CIA(and others) could catch easier than reproduce.

Finally the stupid media has to admit they never had good evidence that OBL existed, which they vacuously presumed. Apparently everyone was on orders not to question his existence.

Authenticating past messages too. IF Bush had chosen content it would be glaring in comparison to the crude audio tapes. The arrogantly misfit lecture and preaching does not do Bush any good. It actually passes quite a few tests, despite the capabilities of modern tech.

I always said he was dead, but the screwball had his own reasons for not clearing things up. He seems as irrelevant in the power sense as Saddam became to the resistance, which fits mainstream CIA analysis. That won't be clear enough to help Bush as it also implies AlQaeda has spread far beyond this puzzling mumbler in hiding. Wonder if he has to tone things down to guarantee his protection by Pakistan. That is most likely.

[Goathead]

14. Getting everyone roweled up

Maybe the Bushies are playing a phony tape as if to say "Hey! Remember this guy!" and then they are going to "capture" him over the weekend. Isn't Friday and the weekend a bad time in the news cycle though?
OBL was on the CIAs payroll I believe that he still is, and you maybe right perhaps he was concocted in a think-tank somewhere inside the beltway.

[ciaobox]

10. 3D Modelling has come a LONG way

This could easily be a rendering (ala Mosh)-

[Amaya]

11. Now, you're just being logical

STOP THAT!

[npincus]

12. you've gotta be kidding- every Middle East expert has validated

this tape, and something like this was expected by both campaigns. The other tape looked like it was done in Karl Rove's basement, but this one is the real thing.

[Amaya]

13. You know this... how?

"every Middle East expert has validated this tape" Who? Link?

[npincus]

15. okay, I admit I used hyperbole there but

the tape passed the AL Jazeera smell test, and was authenticated by our CIA and... challenging its authenticity with 3 daysa left to go is a dead end- we have to blast Bushco and make everyone remember the hollow promises about "smoking 'em outta their caves, bla bla bla" and that OBL is supposed to be dead and not out there threatening us.