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Clinton Crusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:57 PM
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JK ON CNN!~
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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:57 PM
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1. Himself?
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:57 PM
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2. yup
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:58 PM
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3. AND???????????
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kypp Donating Member (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:58 PM
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4. Yes, he reminded us of Tora Bora!!!
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:58 PM
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5. gee, why not show the whole thing?
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:58 PM
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6. and of course
they cut him off.
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:59 PM
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7. United in determination
To kill terrorists...

They cut him off just as he was getting to the Tora Bora stuff... dammit.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:59 PM
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8. He cut him off!
Let's see if he does that with bush too :mad:
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Cerridwen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:59 PM
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9. Given they cut off Kerry, the better cut off * - n/t
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Nashyra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:01 PM
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Didn't need to cut off the *
He only said the intelligence community was investigating the tape and the American people were united on war on terrorism. Didn't take questions. Kerry said that he was sorry that * outsourced the capture of Osama in Tora Bora and he would have never done that.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:59 PM
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10. Flame away, but that was awful.
He should NOT have used that as an opportunity to attack Bush.

Bad fucking move.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:00 PM
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13. i thought it was fine.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:02 PM
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16. It will BACKFIRE.
You will hear this 24 hours a day until the election:

"John Kerry tried to exploit the bin Laden tape for his own political gain. He will say anything to get elected."

JFK gave Bush ammunition.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:03 PM
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17. i doubt it. becuase it's again a reminder that OBL is alive
and Bush failed to get him.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:04 PM
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20. The media was going to do that anyway--so could have surrogates.
Kerry should have acted like he was above politics when talking about bin Laden.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:07 PM
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21. oh well, whatever happens happens.
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:35 PM
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35. Yep. You've got that right. n/t
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tinrobot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:10 PM
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23. He said that a thousand times.
He used it in the debates.

nothing new.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:11 PM
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25. Exactly. He didn't need to say it again.
Oh well. Toothpaste out of the tube now.
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Thrill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:14 PM
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29. Oh please
Say and continue to say it. They don't miss a chance to call Kerry a flip flopper
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:17 PM
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30. One thing they're good at is generating phony outrage
Mary Cheney and THK's comments about Laura Bush were bullshit too.

But, they still wound up hurting.
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bobbyboucher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:27 PM
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33. What the fuck?
Quit whining about what the nitwit repugs are going to say about this, or that, or whatever.

Nobody, and I mean nobody is listening to the repugs whine about little Mary Cheney, or Laura Bush, or Tora Bora, except kool-aid drinking wingnut fuckwits.

Quit it.

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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:12 PM
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26. It's a week out
he is exactly right to attack Bush and frame the debate. Otherwise you lose control of the news cycle. He has to get his side out, if he "takes the high road" the thugs will control the spin and frame the debate. Time is too short to worry about backlash. Botton line: Osama is still alive and Bush didn't get him. Repeat as necessary.
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:18 PM
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31. That gives ammo for the Bush counterattack and phony outrage
Phony outrage is their best weapon.
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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:28 PM
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34. Too late for that to get traction
with anyone but the true believers at this point. You can't cede the news cycle to the other side. The average non-committed voter sees a picture of Osama. Either you say nothing and let the thugs spin it against you or you immediately put your side out. So this weekend when average non-committed voter sees OBL he should be thinking: Osama is alive, Bush didn't get him. Osama is alive, Bush didn't get him. Osama is alive, Bush didn't get him. Osama is alive, Bush didn't get him. Osama is alive, Bush didn't get him. Osama is alive, Bush didn't get him. Osama is alive, Bush didn't get him.
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DoBotherMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:40 PM
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36. I agree ... If you've followed JK over the years ...
Edited on Fri Oct-29-04 05:42 PM by DanaM
he stays on message. Even though we have heard it many times those who are tuning in to the news may be hearing the "Bush let Osama get away in Tora Bora" for the first time. And the news people need to get that message too ... maybe if he says it enough they will!
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:41 PM
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38. I hope I'm wrong!
I've just seen the Bushistas get away with such bullshit so often.
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venus Donating Member (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:41 PM
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37. I agree. Especially after Bush did not denigrate Kerry.
Bad move.
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hippiegranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:45 PM
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39. tell us how he could denigrate Kerry...
please, I am quite puzzled how denigrating Kerry could even happen since BOOOOSH is pres and called the shots (well ok Chaingang did) over the past three years. Just how could Kerry be blamed? I can think of 25 ways til Tuesday that Booosh can be blamed, but I cannot come up with one that implicates Kerry.
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:01 PM
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15. WHAT??????????
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:03 PM
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19. It was too partisan.
It will help the Bush "Osama wants Kerry to win" meme--they can tie it to "Kerry will say anything to get elected."
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:03 PM
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18. I agree.
It should have come from the heart. But I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. He was taken by surprise, Bush has been practicing his comeback for days.
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still_one Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:11 PM
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24. why is bin laden still alive?
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geek tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:13 PM
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27. I agree that his being alive should help Kerry.
But, Kerry has to be extra careful about this stuff.

Remember how they drum up false outrage as a political weapon.
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shelley806 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 04:59 PM
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11. Why was he cut off?
Bush said nothing.
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strizi64 Donating Member (192 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:00 PM
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12.  JK first, Shrub second
just great :)! And what a lame statment from the pResident }(
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NightOwwl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:00 PM
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14. He made it into just another political sound-bite.
Hope he has a better response later.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:08 PM
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22. He was simply telling the truth.
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The River Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:13 PM
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28. "Why is Osama bin Laden Still Alive?"
to make that tape?
Why Is Osama bin Laden Still Alive
To threaten Us?

Thats all that needs to be said...
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Tatiana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 05:22 PM
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32. Exactly. That's what he should have said.
He sort of repeated the same lines he used on the stump and in the debates. We've heard that before. I know he's playing it safe, but Kerry squandered a major opportunity to be courageous and speak from the heart. Of course Bush didn't say anything all that great either, so I'd consider it a draw. No harm done, but no ground gained either.
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