OBL tapes are turning into a referendum on Bush's record

[montana500]

A few hours after the release of these tapes, we are now seeing the story turn into "why is OBL not captured?".

[The_Casual_Observer]

1. Natch. It's the only possible logical response to the appearance

you got to ask yourself why is that guy still around after all this ?

[Dems Will Win]

24. FIGHT BACK MEME: OSAMA NOT YET CAUGHT BECAUSE OF IRAQ DIVERSION!!

Sharpton was just on CNN with this and it was very effective argument it seems to me.

The Republican was dumbfounded by it and it changed the whole direction of the show.

When Paula Zahn came back with the Bush party line, Sharpton simply repeated it and made her question about this making new voters go Bush seem irrelevant.

OBL is still alive because Bush took his eye off the ball and we invaded Iraq.

Repeat this 50 times a day until Tuesday Night.

Thank You.

[billyoc]

26. Sharpton is the *man*

Before I read his book, "Al on America" I was pretty apolitical. He got me *into* this game.

P.S. I know some people don't like him, *cough*tweety*cough*, so don't bother reminding me.

[belle]

36. Well, hello.

[Kahuna]

38. Yep. A fireside chair from OBL THREE years after 911. Not cool.

Not good.

[cubsfan forever]

2. Serves the repukes right!

They have trying to play this thing both ways for over 3 years, and FINALLY they are boxed into a corner.

Professor 2

[awgoodkitty]

3. Latest CBS poll "Does the Bin Laden Tape" Help or Hurt *

Hurts President Bush:
80.71%
Helps President Bush:
19.29%

5:12 pst

[Jackpine Radical]

4. Link please?

I'd kinda like to express myself there.

[awgoodkitty]

5. Link

with a KICK

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/29/terror/main65...

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

7. I voted in it

it hurts bush. Proves his biggest fuck up, not getting OBL.

That's gotta burn up the 9/11 survivors and families. I know it does me.

[Carla in Ca]

10. 82 to 13 hurts...yipeeeee

n/t

[awgoodkitty]

11. don't CBS polls

usually tend to go a bit conservative???

[Carla in Ca]

13. Not when we hit them...go do the poll

n/t

[awgoodkitty]

19. I did.

Now it doesn't show up on my screen.


President Kerry....that sounds so beautiful!!!!

[billyoc]

27. The result didn't show up for me

using mozilla or firefox on GNU/Linux.

[cubsfan forever]

31. Yes, and I might add that

they are only slightly to the left of ABC, which is slightly to right of Attila the Hun.

Professor 2

[fishwax]

15. kick

:kick:

[NAO]

17. Where is the poll? On the main page or do I follow a link?

[RevCheesehead]

20. Try this link instead:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/29/terror/main652373.shtml

Currently: Hurts Bush 81.2%

[NightOwwl]

23. nao, I just posted a direct link to the poll

post #22

[NightOwwl]

18. never mind.

[npincus]

21. WHERE is it?

can you give a direct link? I went to the b]page but didn't find it. Thanks.

[newyawker99]

30. Hi awgoodkitty!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[awgoodkitty]

32. Thanks!

I love this place.

And I'd like to share this with all of you who are not offended by the word assh*le...


www.filmstripinternational.com

[calmblueocean]

6. The more I think about it, the more I think this is the final blow for W.

If you're already a Bush kool-aid drinker, then you'll swoon with fear and fall at the feet of W, trembling and begging him to protect you.

But if you're undecided, isn't this just going to piss you off?

It's been 3 years, 2 wars, 200 billion dollars, 1100 dead American soldiers, and... there he is, healthy, relaxed, not afraid, not hiding in a cave, not dirty.

Untouched.

There's no way this plays well with the undecideds. Osama combined with the latest round of Bush scandals -- al Qaqaa, Halliburton contracts -- just makes you wish for new president.

And what a surprise! It's time to choose one.

Bush is toast.

[madaboutharry]

8. It always happens this way

A bunch of lightweights like Tweety get on tv yakking a bs line and then a bunch of other lightweights jump in the middle of the circle jerk. Then a few hours pass and people start to actually do some thinking and someone says "hey, wait a minute here..." Paula Zahn is right on this one, this reminds people that Bush is a failure. The war on terror is a failure. And also, one of our "so called allies" has been harboring bin laden, giving him state of the art medical care and shielding him from capture.

[roseBudd]

9. Here is the proof that is true, print it and photocopy it,

hand them out or put them on car windshields.

Go to http://somnamblst.tripod.com to download high resolution TIF or PDF file to print.

In light of the OBL tape AND the OBL lie from the third debate the flyer below is particularly apropo for the final push. What more proof do we need that the Army War College was correct when they said the Irag War is "a strategic error of the first order".

[oasis]

14. Kickin' it into gear.

[roseBudd]

28. putting flyers under car windshields is really easy

[Kahuna]

41. Not to mention giving him a studio to tape a message to 'Merikuh..

Looks like a colossal failure to me.

[thinksmart]

12. It's Going to be OK.

Go Kerry!

[ciaobox]

16. SPIN IT BACK

Cheney said the other day that if John Kerry had his way, Saddam Hussein would still have these weapons -- and of course, the weapons would still be under UN lock and key.

Well, Bush GOT his way and now that we have PROOF that OBL is alive, the explosives may be in OSAMA's hands.

So is Bush saying it is better for Osama to have the explosives and be on the run where he can kill Americans than it is for Saddam to have the explosives and have them constantly being monitored by the U.N.?

[NightOwwl]

22. Direct link to poll...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/29/terror/main652373.shtml

on the right hand side of the page

[venus]

34. Thank you for the link. Hurts Bush 87%! .

I'm going to spread it.

[City Lights]

25. Keep it going by blasting your thoughts to the media. eom

[troubleinwinter]

29. 82.44%

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/10/29/terror/main65...

[mconvente]

33. I have to agree that this last week has been the final blow to chimpy

I have a friend who can vote for the first time and he had been undecided. He really didn't like either candidate, but what happened the past week finally pushed him over the edge - he's going to vote for Kerry. He believes that responsibility is needed for the missing explosives and I'm sure he's pissed off about the fact that bin Laden hasn't been caught (I haven't spoken to him since early friday). So there's the facts - undecideds WILL see this as a major problem for Bush.

[sangh0]

35. It's the Perfect Storm

Since the debates, the nation has woken up

[Shopaholic]

37. To top it all off, there has been horrible news from Iraq this morning

8 of our guys killed, 9 more injured. Just how many more of our people have to die for ShrubCo & Halliburton????? These are the questions that Americans needs to be asking themselves.

[MADem]

39. BILL MAHER nailed the talking points last night

Anyone who missed it, catch the rerun. IT WAS OUT-DAMN-STANDING...he was ON FIRE! When he put the wolf hat on, I was laughing so hard I was crying!

[Christiandem]

40. Props to the dems

I have to hand it to the dems leadership last nite. they stuck on message on all the tv networks, and may have transformed a bad situation into a draw. At least, I didn't see any program where it was just a repuke talking and bashing kerry like i saw in 2000.

[charlyvi]

42. Here's another CBS poll,

worded slightly differently.....

Who will gain the most politically from Osama bin Laden's taped message to the American people, President Bush or Sen. John Kerry?


Kerry: 62.78%

Shrub: 21.43%

No advantage for either man: 15.79%

Edit: Oops, forgot to post the link.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/09/08/politics/main641817.shtml

[Cogito ergo doleo]

43. After Bush said OBL didn't concern him anymore

how could seeing OBL alive help him at all? :shrug: