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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:36 PM
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If the OBL tape is the October Surprise, how'd they do it?
The mainstream press has called this one as a disaster for Kerry. Who knows whether it will stick, but if it does how'd they pull it off.
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CTD Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:38 PM
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1. "They" didn't have to...
OBL NEEDS W. Just like W needs OBL.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:43 PM
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5. Every now and then you hear a truth,
and it slaps you in the face.

Your post did just that.
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OldLeftieLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:39 PM
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2. How?
How is it a disaster for KERRY?

For Christ's sakes, it's just rubbing SHRUB's nose in his failure to get OBL.

The mainstream press is looking for any way to dis JFK.

They're going to go after him as soon as he's elected, even worse than they did with Clinton.

I can feel this one coming................
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:45 PM
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8. I don't agree that it is necessarily a disaster for Kerry,
but the spin is that it is a disaster for Kerry. The public laps up the spin, ergo the tape helps Bush.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:48 PM
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10. My emphasis must have been poor,
because my point was only that the spin will be for Bush, not the perception. Unfortunately, the spin often becomes the reality.
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randr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:40 PM
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3. It is a plus for * because it takes the attention off
the explosives in Iraq and brings the scare tactic to the forefront.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:41 PM
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4. HTF is this a disastor for kerry? LOL
Gee did Kerry let UBL ride out of Tora Bora on a mule?

Was Kerry in biz with UBL's brother?

Gee, you forgot...that would be Bush.
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Bok_Tukalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:43 PM
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6. "They" did nothing
Bin Laden has been unable to strike so he is fucking with the American head.

Trying to figure out who he would like better is absurd in the extreme. He is our enemy. It's like asking the rapist which of his victims has the nicest tits.

Any idiot allowing our enemy to manipulate us into voting a certain way because of his mere existence deserves whatever leader our enemy has chosen for us.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:44 PM
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7. They've had the tapes for a few weeks
and just now decided to release them.
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Timefortruth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:50 PM
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11. Do you know this, or just guess it? nt
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:51 PM
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13. just a guess
nt
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Gyre Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:46 PM
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9. Don't be an idiot!
The 'October Surprise' is supposed to be something that THEY hatched. As somebody pointed out elsewhere, this is THE OPPOSITE of that. This was done TO them. Big difference.

BTW, can't wait for October to be over so you parrots have to stop saying "October Surprise". Usually, it's my favorite month.

Gyre
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dogman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:51 PM
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12. Maybe they took a camera down to the basement.
He was looking healthy, maybe he's gotten the medical care available in the WH. Feeding on table scraps from upstairs wouldn't hurt either. I actually believe it would be in OBL's interests to tell us his own message which is "get out'. That's been his cause all along it would seem to me. As he noted niether man is going to change his cause until our policy toward him changes which seems unlikely. I just think he pretty much told it the way he sees it.
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West Coast Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:53 PM
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14. It's only a disaster if people like you get demoralized because of it
I don't see how it has an effect on anyone's voting preference.
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GoBlue Donating Member (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-29-04 08:58 PM
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15. It's a mystery to me
But Americans see Bush as stronger on terrorism. Nevermind that his war is an absolute disaster so far. Bush wins = OBL wins =USA loses. Got it?
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