McLaughlin just predicted Kerry gets the Electoral College

[eleny]

[bullimiami]

1. knowing that even gore took the popular vote by 500,000

and there is no way, barring enormous voter fraud, that kerry isnt going to beat that by a mile.

[wanpete]

2. it would almost be like karma for JK to take the EC and lose the popular

let the repugs feel what we've felt for the past four years. The only difference...JK will be an intelligent, fiscally responsible, adult president that will make America strong again.

[tomfodw]

4. Bite your tongue! Need BOTH!

[wanpete]

6. true that. But if we have only one, better it be the EC!

[fujiyama]

9. No we don't need both

let them scream.

I want to remind them, "We live in a republic, not a democracy".

[bushwakker]

19. it would also create a ground swell to eleiminate the ec

which in my opinion would be good.

[bunkerbuster1]

23. While I too want JFK to win both EC and PV

Long-term, for the country's sake, if JFK were to win by the EC and lose the popular vote it would be a better thing. Long term. We'd almost certainly see a bipartisan movement springing forth to eliminate this anachronism, and bring this nation closer to being the modern industrialized democracy it needs to be (instead of this patchwork of gussied-up agrarian-era 18th-century crap we're laboring under now.)

[drumwolf]

24. problem is

that a Kerry popular loss would play into the RW's hands and give them more ammunition to try to undermine his presidency (which they certainly WILL attempt to do anyway).

I would settle for only an electoral win if we absolutely needed to, but we really need a popular win as well to give JK the extra legitimacy.

[bushwakker]

27. true, plus they would threaten to murder dem electors and i'm not

kidding about that.

[SammyWinstonJack]

5. Thing is,

If Kerry takes the EV and the chimp wins the popular vote( I don't think that is a possibility) the repubs will scream loud! Hypocrites that they are! Keep in mind that bush* had a plan in place in '00, that if he got the popular vote and Gore got the EV, that he would challenge it! Of course when the opposite occurred, bush* denied that claim! :eyes: Like I said, Hypocrites!

[DuaneBidoux]

12. AND if he does not get the popular vote he will not rule like a

Divine King. He will be considerate in his appointments and throughout that his was not a popular mandate. Maybe not what you would want to hear, but fair and with integrity.

[snippy]

18. I think that is a definite possibilty.

Bush will challenge the results in court in the closest states if this happens.

[vickie]

3. Did they discuss the OBL tape?

[blondeatlast]

15. Yes, a lot. nt

[DemocracyInaction]

7. And I want John to pull a Bush

Remember that Bush said after his appointment to his staff that he intended to govern as if he HAD a mandate..........well, I want JFK to take the oath of office and hang a hard LEFT just like Bush hung a hard RIGHT. I want him to in essence say "read my finger". Do not even attempt to play ball with these scum........fuck them.

[DuaneBidoux]

14. But he would not do that. Kerry is a man of integrity.

[delete_bush]

8. John McLaughlin?

[YouLiedTheyDied]

10. of course Kerry is going to win

I'm betting close to 400 electoral votes!

[newyawker99]

11. Hi YouLiedTheyDied!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[Fluffdaddy]

13. Who is John McLaughlin?

[blondeatlast]

16. McLaughlin Group, PBS Fridays.

Best debate show on television. Good enough that the stars are memorialized in a Hirschfeild caricature; ya gotta be real good to get that.

Besides McLaughlin, they have:

Eleanor Clift, Newsweek
Tony Blankley, Washington Times and celebrated Kool-Aid purveyor
Pat Buchanan, who tones himself down considerable out of fear of losing his TV time
Lawrence O'Donell, MSNBC and the smartest one of the bunch

Last night, Clift, O'Donnell, and McLaughlin called it for Kerry.

Slam dunk.

[bunkerbuster1]

26. Predictions Mor-TON!

Haven't seen the crazy ol' perv in a long time, but I used to love watching his Group. They were pioneers in televised political food-fights. Back in the day, it was thrilling.

Now it's just SOP for the networks and, I guess, it's kinda gross to consider that we really do have McLaughlin to thank for creating the template.

[peekaloo]

17. Notice how subdued Toady Blankley was last night?

Interesting as he's the biggest Bu$h cheerleader on that panel.

BAH!

[blondeatlast]

20. I did notice; almost grudgingly admiring Kerry.

He better hope Reverend Moon didn't see that episode...

[npincus]

21. Where? Teleivised? link, if posible, please

[blondeatlast]

22. Last night's not yet available, but check the link, they get them up

in a couple of days or so.

http://www.mclaughlin.com/library/library.asp

[npincus]

25. though he's Republican, I think he wants Kerry to win

just the feeling I get from watching him on The McLaughlin Group