Freeper Madness Six

[DemocratSinceBirth]

This is my sixth post in the last three or four days on the mental malady known as freeper madness...


They come here peddling bad news or bad polls and "ask" for encouragement or they start titles such as "We Should Treat Terrorism as a Law Enforcement Problem Like Bill Clinton"


The sad thing is some well intentioned DUers actually fall for this subterfuge...


I never hated anyone in my life or at least not many people and not without good reason but the freepers have taught me to hate...

[RafterMan]

1. Why does Kerry hate black people?

Why does Kerry want to turn the national guard in to an army of occupation?

Why does our guy sell out to the corporations so much?

Isn't freedom in Venezuela as important as freedom in the US?

Kerry is in AIPAC's back pocket.

Rove trapped us in this whole "war" thing. Let's just admit the war was good and move on.

My problem with the freepers is that I can't understand what they're getting out of it. Even what they *think* they're getting out of it. They show more creativity than paid staffer drones would, but how does their program benefit the creative individual? They are opaque to me.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. There's Several Things Going On...

Some of the posts are meant to demoralize us:

- "WTF-Kerry and Bush Are Tied in Hawaii"


Some of the posts are meant to make us look like pussies:

- "I Like Clinton Treating Terrorism As A Law Enforcement Action"


Some of the posts want us to look like communist fellow travellers:


-"Freedom In Venezuela Is As Important As Freedom In America"


So they want to demoralize us or say the most outrageous things and get some of us to agree...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

3. freeper alert

every time i see a freeper i'm going to kick my thread...

[MrModerate]

4. I think maybe you're seeing phantom FReepers . . .

I'm sure they're here, but not everybody who expresses an idea a little to the right of the centroid (right word?) of this board is one.

I'm a relative newbie in posting here (been lurking for over a year, however), so I gotta ask -- are there that many FReeps? (Here I mean.)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. I Consider Myself A Moderate Who Leans Left....

I believe in free trade....


I believe in a strong military...


I believe in individual initiative and responsobility..


but I know the difference between a right of center opinion and the opinion of a provacateur...

[democratreformed]

6. Yes, there are that many freepers here. n/t

[blondeatlast]

10. Most legit newbies don't start threads that are guaranteed

to piss DUers off; they reply often to other's threads until they get their land legs.

I don't use the ignore feature, I just don't respond to morale-sinking threads.

DSB isn't exactly a radical left-winger, either, he's more of centrist himself, IMHO, but he's got street cred here.

And I like the idea of kicking this thread when I see a suspected troll. I'm bookmarking it for that reason!

[Scoopie]

7. LOL... Freeper Madness

I thought of that exact same pun the other day - a play off Reefer Madness - that old 30s B&W movie shot like a school health film to teach about the horrors of smoking dope. :D

[apnu]

8. hmmm MLK?

you said: I never hated anyone in my life or at least not many people and not without good reason but the freepers have taught me to hate...

MLK said: Southerners ought to come to Chicago and learn how to hate after getting hit in the head (the only time) with a brick during a march in Chicago.

[Maestro]

9. They are definitely lurking here

and the more militant and less intelligent of the group send hate mail to you. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104x2555410

I guess I should conisder this a badge of courage. :)

[blondeatlast]

12. "Maestro sent that e-mail himself, he knew he would be in politics

someday," said Michelle Malkin!

//sarcasm//

[Maestro]

31. Funny!

Sad thing is that I can hear her say it because she is that much an idiot!

[Fluffdaddy]

11. Freepers Are hateful Un-American cockroaches. I lurk there

and they are just HATEFUL

[rot0r_head]

14. The only way to find more wholesale hatred than exists on FR

is to go sites for "legitimate" hate organizations, like National Alliance and other white supremacists. They generally condemn what they feel as "racism" (which for Freepers so incapable of subtlety must be no less than "I want to kill so-and-so because they of their race") against groups that could potentially support the GOP. Basically, any type of hyphenated American sans Arabs. Because, as everyone knows, Arabs are terrorists. And as Bush makes abundantly clear, terrorists aren't people. Therefore, Arabs aren't people. It's that simple.

[belle]

29. What's interesting about National Alliance (yes i went there, ugh) is...

I noticed they spend a fair amount of time trashing Free Republic, for not being sufficiently honest about their racism (I guess) and for being too kind to the Jews.

Now, you'd think this would be to FR's credit, and I suppose it sort of is, but it's really damning with faint praise, emphasis on the damning. Why? Because NA wouldn't even bother to single out FR for criticism unless they thought they were pretty damn close to them philosophically in many other respects. It's like how some ultra-right Christian sects spend a good chunk of their time bashing particular rival sects for their unorthodoxy. Competition, you see. I mean, they don't even bother with DU and similar websites, NA doesn't; because to them we're all part of the big blurry mass of Enemy territory (feminists, gays, liberals, progressives, immigrants, civil rights-advocates...you know, all the people FR also think are responsible for ruining the country).

Yeah. Free Republic. Great place.

[blondeatlast]

13. Troll...

:kick:
:kick:

Two of them, just like that.

[blondeatlast]

15. Sheesh...

:kick:

[Anarcho-Socialist]

16. When I see trolls, I just quietly hit alert and not reply to the threads

Although sometimes they can be really subtle and it's hard to tell if some newbie is handwringing or if its a troll. It makes it harder to tell when I see experienced DU'ers handwring occasionally.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. I Was Thinking Of Going To Freak Republic And Make

Believe I am voting Constitution Party because Bush isn't conservative enough...

I wonder what they would say...

[w4rma]

18. …

I do not advocate freeping freepers. But if you do, I don't want to know about it until after the election.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

20. Remember In All In The Family How Rediculous Archie Made Conservatives

Look

[Anarcho-Socialist]

19. I think they would agree with what the Constitution Party stands for

but they would say that it'd be worse if "Karry and the democraps bring commyunism to murika, cas there haet fredum".

[ogradda]

22. lol!

that's funny :)

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. Michael Savage Says Bush Isn't Conservative Enough...

nt

[belle]

30. Michaek Savage has springs coming out of his head. But we knew that.

[uhhuh]

21. Huh?

"We Should Treat Terrorism as a Law Enforcement Problem Like Bill Clinton"


I don't see anything wrong with this.

Clinton did a good job at stopping terrorists. I think starting wars to stop terrorists is much worse than trying to arrest them.

What's the problem with that?

Am I being duped?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. Clinton Never Said That....

nt

[blondeatlast]

25. It's almost too easy... nt

[uhhuh]

26. Oh

Was the poster saying that Clinton "said" that terrorism should be treated as a law enforcement problem?

I don't see that there is anything wrong with the practice of treating terrorism as a law enforcement problem.

The French and Spanish recently coordinated to nab a group of militant separatists by using good police and investigative work.

I think that is a good thing.

I'd rather see that than cluster bombs being dropped in areas where "terrorists" may or may not be, and the collateral damage caused to those kinds of actions.

Was there a specific reason that terrorism should be addressed by bombs and not investigators?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

27. If The Big Dawg Was Here...

he would say to use a scalpel when necessary and when the scalpel isn't sufficient then you have to use a hammer...


What they are really implying is that Gore or Clinton wouldn't have had a robust response to 9-11...

I find that offensive...


We're the party of Roosevelt, Truman, and Kennedy...

We favor the prudential use of force when all other alternatives have been exhausted...

We are not the pacifist party...

[uhhuh]

28. Agreed

But I think Clinton's record of bring terrorists to justice, and doing it without invading other countries, is a testament to his level headed and sensible leadership.

I have no doubt, were we attacked by a foreign power during his term, that he would have successfully brought the full force of our military to bear against our attackers and routed them.

I just don't think that the "freeper example" of treating terrorist criminals as something that could be dealt with by coordinating with law enforcement around the world is necessarily at odds with what a lot of Democrats, including myself, believe.

I guess it would have been better if I had seen the post and how the issue was presented.