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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:40 AM
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So I woke up this morning sorta understanding what OBL was saying
on that tape.

forgive me for beating a deadhorse, but i've been quite puzzled and conflicted by his statements.

#1 - I don't believe the release had anythign to do with Bushco. It's obvious listening to what OBL is saying that he is following the media here with great interest. It's not a stretch to think he'd show up on his own prior to a momentous election where he's been the centerpiece.

#2 - I see absolutely NO positive in this video for Bush. it reminds us he has failed to avenge 9/11. And on top of that, he and his dad got heaped with insults by the very guy he should have killed. it's a giant smack in the face.


so i woke up this morning, i gues safter processing this thing overnight, and OBLs comments on "not kerry not bush not al quaeda" bit finally sort of made sense.


I think this video was made to "set the record straight". I think obl and his cronies ahve been paying close attention to american media, and frankly i think he's pissed that he's been pimped all through these elections. His mission and ideology (in his mind) has been boiled down to "they hate us for our freedom". Which totally denigrates the grand mission he believes he's on to "Free the Faithful, and restore their God-Given land back to the muslim people."


So he basically was saying no man can save you from terror. The threat of Terror isn't going to go away until policy changes. So vote the issues, and don't think anyone can "save" you from me, cuz it's not gonna happen. As long as American Foreing Policy is what it is, i'm still gonna be around, and so is terror.

Now i'm not sure what to think of this....I think he's right in that this "Fear! Terror! Fear! Terror!" propaganda we've been fed is total bullshit, and does oversimplify things. But i can't believe the balls on this dude, that he feels he needs to tellus this.

if anything tho, the whole tape does cement my support for Kerry. More of the same with Bush means more of the same in foreign policy. At least with JFK, i believe not only will he get Al-queda, which i believe DEFINITELY needs to happen, but i think he will also do what needs to be done foreign policy-wise to reduce the threat of terror in general.
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molly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:43 AM
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1. Good analysis - my take is
"get the hell out of our lands - who the f do you think you are".
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:46 AM
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3. Yup....and i think that's basically been the driving idea
behind terrorism since what? 1967?

Sadly i believe this point is going to be buried in the spin.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:45 AM
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2. not worth thinking too much about
neither Osama, nor the media which is filtering it for us, is trustworthy.
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MsTryska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:06 AM
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5. Yeah...I agree....
i'm working off a translation from al-jazeera, but still i would liek to see a transcript of the entire tape, because Bill Maher, had some alleged quotes from it that i didn't see at all.


But my brains seems to sort through cognitive dissonance while i'm sleeping, and this one apparently needed to be processed. so i thought i'd share.



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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:47 AM
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4. Just ignore it and the polls and get out and help elect Democrats (nt)
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:07 AM
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6. we ac easly become free of forign Oil with some conservation and solar
energy...www.hemp4fuel.com biodiesel and the big solar project that W vetoed his first day in office that could provide over 70% of the electricity needed during daytime hours.. all clean and earth friendly..

what is happening is the NEOCON's are f'n things up to force Nuclear power.. using all the Plutoniun we made with our tax dollars .. given free to Corperate Robber Barrons to charge us premium prices.. for what we give them for free..
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