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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:51 AM
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Four Polls In One Link
Edited on Sat Oct-30-04 11:06 AM by DemocratSinceBirth
www.tipponline.com


www.washingtonpost.com


www.rasmussenreports.com


www.zogby.com


on edit-I changed the title of my thread ... I'm no longer concerned... I'm reminded of an old Baptist hymm... "Put Your Trust In God".....
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:53 AM
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1. What Are You Concerned About


The Polls Mean NADA...........
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wyldwolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:53 AM
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2. concerned about what?
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NDFan Donating Member (154 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:55 AM
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3. Screw the polls
One poll shows Bush ahead 6 points, another shows Kerry ahead one.

Presidential polling has been in decline the last eight years. It's all about TURNOUT, TURNOUT, TURNOUT, TURNOUT.
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:55 AM
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4. Instead of obsessing about polls, why don't you go out and work to help
Edited on Sat Oct-30-04 10:55 AM by w4rma
elect Democrats? Ignore the polls, whether they are good or bad. All the polls are within the margin of error, anyway.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:02 AM
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11. I've Walked Precints...
I wheeled my eighy six year old mother to vote last Saturday at 8:00
A.M.

I've walked precints.... I've handed out Kennedy for president leaflets in 1980 in Daytona Beach...


I bleed Democratic..


Peace


Brian
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:06 AM
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14. No offense, but we need the help NOW, not 24 years ago. Analyzing polls
Edited on Sat Oct-30-04 11:09 AM by w4rma
does *not* help elect Democrats. Just, please, ignore the polls and quit wasting your time on them rather than helping out with the campaign in your area.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:08 AM
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16. My Buddy And I Walked For Move On In His Neighborhood..
I own a business and am a full time caregiver to my 86 year old mom... DUers who I know in real life are aware of my predicament...
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:15 AM
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19. My apologies, sir. Its just that I know many DUers are spending their time
Edited on Sat Oct-30-04 11:16 AM by w4rma
quibbling and analyzing polls which is the absolute least productive thing (maybe even anti-productive since it gets other folks caught up into it, also) one can do.

I feel that too many Dems, whom aren't in your situation, spend too much time on analysis rather than getting out there and really doing the footwork required.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:18 AM
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20. It's Ok... No biggie... I'm Glad I Changed My Thread Title...



Worrying never make things better....


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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:55 AM
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5. I'm Going To Be Consistent
I will look at all the polls in their entirety and give Kerry a 2-3% boost because that is roughly the percentage pollsters underpolled Gore in 00...


I'm not going to be intellectually dishonest and pick a favorite pollster but I will pay special attention to Zogby's final poll on Monday...

Peace

Brian
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bullimiami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:57 AM
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6. tipp? you have to be kidding me. roll some dice, just as accurate. nt
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:20 AM
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22. The do come they don't come they will or won't come.
Vote as if your life depended on it, because it does.

Call 866 687-8683
If Poll Workers refuse you to vote for any reason

If there is a late opening or early closing of a polling place.
If your polling place runs out of ballots or has an incorrect ballot
If you experience poll worker insensitivity or discrimination in the voting process

The civil rights community have set up a toll-free Election Day hotline. This line is staffed now and,
in addition to logging your complaint, the civil rights organizations have law students and attorneys
who can provide assistance on Election Day.

The hotline number is
866 687-8683
202 457-0473 fax

When you call the hotline, be prepared to give your name, telephone number, and note as many
details as possible, including the names of the people who are involved.
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Goldmund Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:57 AM
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7. Go check out Rasmussen
Kerry gained 1.2 points today, and the spread is only 0.8.
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:58 AM
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8. That's Why I'm Not Concerned..
nt
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:01 AM
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10. This is weird...I saw two threads but didn't go into either one
One said Rasmussen had Shrub gaining like 1.5 points in the last day and the other said what you said..
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:03 AM
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12. Even better! job approval rating
Edited on Sat Oct-30-04 11:07 AM by bush_has_to_go
*'s job approval rating is down to 50.4%(+)/49.6%(-)...the lowest since the republican convention. I think the movement may be starting.
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:59 AM
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9. im not happy about the Plain Dealer OH poll
Mason Dixon is a good polling firm with an excellent record.

Ohio is not locked up
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DemocratSinceBirth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:03 AM
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13. Mason Dixon Blew Delaware By Seventeen Points In 00
That's why you have to look at all the polls
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:38 AM
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23. M-D also nailed 2002 down.
Lots of pollsters blew races by mig margins. However, you do have to see other polls, but Mason-Dixon was the best performing pollster in 2002.

They picked 22 out of 23 races right and had the closest results.

I think Ohio is dead even right now and it will be determined by turnout and/or theft/supression.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:13 AM
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18. Last Ohio Zogby also shows Shrub over Kerry
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ciaobox Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:07 AM
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15. Concerned? STOP LOOKING AT POLLS HOMEY!
The time for poll obsessions is over. Kerry is a lock. We just need to work on GOTV.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2004/10/29/grassro...
Oct. 29, 2004 | Hey, come on progressives, buck up! There's been too much doom and gloom -- especially among inside-the-Beltway progressives -- about Kerry's chances on Nov. 2. Maybe they inherited an extra dour gene, or maybe they're spending too much time listening to pollsters and pundits. Of course there's the occasional discouraging campaign news, but don't wallow in it, for there's also greatly encouraging news.

Yes, I know that some polls have shown Bush running even with Kerry or ahead -- but the pollsters are vastly undercounting anti-Bush votes.


Yes, I know that Kerry's charisma quotient ranks somewhere between that of Al Gore and Michael Dukakis -- but John's been perking up lately, showing a bit of populist passion and striking some solid blows.
SNIP

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DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:13 AM
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17. You are missing what matters
the only number that is an indicator in these horserace polls at this point is that Bush is polling below 50%, history says he can't overcome that. Undecided and soft support skews overwhelmingly to the challenger at this stage. In other words the president now has to hope to change minds in the last weekend to get votes and that just doesn't happen for an incumbent. Game set match. Otherwise the national poll numbers aren't an indicator of anything substantive, electorally speaking. Buck up little trooper!
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Snivi Yllom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:20 AM
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21. TIPP today has it Bush 46 Kerry 44 Nader 2 (nt)
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