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shoopnyc123 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:11 PM
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Novak called Dems "Scumbags" on Capital Gang!!!! Shields had to...
...GRAB HIS ARM and tell him to back off! I'm watching it now, (Tivo'ed it), and it's pretty foul!!!!!! Al Hunt tried to calm the thing down...did anyone else see it? (And, it pissed me off to see him turn the genial Mark Shields into a warden for decent conversation!)
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:12 PM
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1. Was Novak talking about all of us? What was the context? nt
nt
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Shopaholic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:13 PM
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2. Damn--missed it. I watched the first 5 minutes-heard the general
whoring for *, and cut it off in disgust.
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canuckybee Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:14 PM
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4. I did exactly the same thing. Just can't take them.
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shoopnyc123 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:15 PM
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7. Mark was making a point about the redistricting of Texas....
....and that was when the remark was made...I've played it three times to see if it really happened...
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 05:02 AM
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56.  when a DOUCHEBAG calls Dems scumbags (transcript link)
transcript: http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/30/cg.01.html

------snip----near bottom of transcript:

NOVAK: I think it is really terrible that you're going to have a congressional delegation from Texas that reflects the state, instead of the back room Democrats

(CROSSTALK)

SHIELDS: Are you ready? Would you be willing to take the Iowa system to Texas, I mean to make the Iowa system where it's drawn absolutely fairly and whatever you say about

(CROSSTALK)

NOVAK: Your people have been down there as scumbags, wait a minute.

SHIELDS: Hey, hey, hey, back off.

NOVAK: All right. All right.
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shoopnyc123 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:14 PM
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3. 36 minutes in...eom
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:14 PM
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5. Does the name Valerie ring a bell?

First Valerie and now Kerry is doing well -- he can't take it.
Meltdown time is here.:toast:
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:20 PM
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33. And with a Kerry administration, no pardon! eom
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:30 PM
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38. Do you suppose bush will pardon him on the way out?
along with kenny boy lay and the like ...
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:44 PM
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43. No, * will pardon the leaker though,
How many pardons will there be time for?

Novak is just a small fish in the big pond, the kind used for bait.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:20 AM
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47. Is there a limit to the pardons

I can name at least 105 right now.

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Ima Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:18 AM
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46. WTF
I can name at least 105 right now..... are you kidding? ..got a link?
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A Simple Game Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:23 AM
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49. Sadly, there probably isn't.
Just a limit in the time to sign all of them.
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goclark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:27 AM
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51. Puppet Boy will be tired from all that "hard work"
Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 01:28 AM by goclark
signing those pardons!

He is dirt,dirt,dirt.

I wpromise that I won't complain about even one pardon if he takes his sorry butt back to Crawford.
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krkaufman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 02:00 AM
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52. Wouldn't think B* could pardon anybody...
... if they haven't been indicted. Perhaps a benefit of his slowing down the investigations.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 04:38 AM
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54. carter pardoned all those who went to canada
it didn't matter if they'd been indicted. I could be wrong, though.

Either way, I'm thinking that the bush pardons will be bold and shameless, and make the clinton "pardongate" seem like child's play.
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billyoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 07:08 AM
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58. I thought Carter gave them all "Amnesty"
rather than pardoning them, though I'm not sure what the distinction would be.
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kurt_cagle Donating Member (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 04:55 AM
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55. Pardons are not blanket "get out of jail free" cards
A pardon can only be issued if a person has been indicted for a crime and has begun serving the sentence. To date, there have been very few (if any) people who have been indicted, largely because the GOP has controlled both houses. This means, irony of ironies, that there is in fact no legal protection that any of this administration's many criminals can seek once out of office. I suspect this is a big part of the reason why there is such a sense of panic coming out of the White House right now. While it is unlikely that President Kerry would in fact let Bush be tried at the Hague with War Crimes (it sets a very bad precedent) my suspicion is that a turnover of the Senate would result in there being a strong push on the part of the G7 for the US to try Bush.
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trof Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 07:35 AM
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60. Beg to differ...Ford pardons Nixon:
"Now, therefore, I, Gerald R. Ford, President of the United States, pursuant to the pardon power conferred upon me by Article II, Section 2, of the Constitution, have granted and by these presents do grant a full, free, and absolute pardon unto Richard Nixon for all offenses against the United States which he, Richard Nixon, has committed or may have committed or taken part in during the period from July (January) 20, 1969 through August 9, 1974."
http://www.super70s.com/Super70s/News/1974/September/8-Ford_Pardons_Nixon.asp

Pretty much a blanket get-out-of-jail free card.

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Birthmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:15 PM
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6. Methinks he doth project too much.
An asshat that outs an undercover operative calling someone else a scumbag. That takes some nerve, doesn't it? The stress of knowing that Bullwinkle is gone on Tuesday is probably too much for the little troll.

Yo! Novak! Hide under the bridge and eat hearty, ya troll. GOATS!
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starbuck6446 Donating Member (90 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:16 PM
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8. Wow... Bob the Duchebag has some vocabulary, huh? eom
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Cush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:17 PM
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Pot, meet Kettle
Bob Novak, a douchebag for liberty
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terrya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:17 PM
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9. Pot, the kettle is calling.
Jesus Christ, that's the most nauseating thing I've ever heard.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:18 PM
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10. Crap, I only watched the first half hour.
Which is about all I can take of NoFacts and Big Bird in drag (KO'B).
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shoopnyc123 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:19 PM
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13. Kate is such a All Hallows Eve type....
...maybe I'll go to the Greenwich Village parade as her, just to scare people!
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:23 PM
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18. How are going to make your chin disappear?
:evilgrin:

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Chelsea Patriot Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:27 PM
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20. Your teeth can't be that bad!
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shoopnyc123 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:18 PM
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11. Shields finished with "it's YOUR people", (regarding Texas)...
...Novak's point was that the Dems had been doing what Delay did all along...
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Catt03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:24 AM
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50. They did, before the Rep takeover...right?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:18 PM
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12. Media in "Boxing Match" trying to achieve higher ratings for Advertisers
in the coming "Kerry/Edwards" years.

Media reduced to "Jerry Springer" type attitude to survive as viewers go to the "Internet" for their "REAL NEWS."

Cables sinking stocks because of lack of viewers are main Buzz on Wall Street...but critics say..."They did it to themselves by becoming "prostitutes to the corporations that owned them."

Other commentators like Ann Coulter said: "Fuck the Liberal Media...I'm working with a Venture Capitalist who will bring back Conservative Media to the ordinatry American...and I'm glad to see these "Commie/Pinko" Liberal Media people get what they deserve."

EOM....
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shoopnyc123 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:21 PM
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17. Prediction...Ron Reagan gets his own show, to compete with...
..."The Daily Show"; younger target audience, but more real news; Tweety and Scar give him TOO much play!
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:39 PM
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25. It's not entirely about ratings
It would be this way even if the ratings stank because:

1. It is safer, easier and chepaer than investigative journalism
2. Corporate owners want this
3. Corporate sponsers want it

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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:42 PM
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42. Yes..to both your replies. Ron Reagan gets show and Cable aims for
cheap...don't even need much in ratings these days. Just cheap and loud.

Ron Reagan might be a nice addition...but then "They" always control the guests...so who knows. :shrug: Same old stuff if Kerry wins as it was when Clinton was there...attack, attack..smear, and smear..
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:29 PM
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61. Anne sets such low goals ...

The media ALREADY is conservative. The "liberal" media consists of "The Nation" and "Air America".

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Maiden England Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:19 PM
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14. you sure he didn't say 'douchebag' while looking in a mirror
scumbag indeed, what on earth would that make him then....nothing, his kind reside in hell.
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chiburb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:21 PM
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16. He went for drinks with Shields after the show
And ordered a vinegar and water...
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:39 PM
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27. When he looks in the mirror
there's probably not a reflection.
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snowbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:21 PM
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15. Yeah BUT..........
I watched it today too, and out of the 5 of them... 3 gave it to Kerry.

Kate O'Bearne (sp?) was ESPECIALLY vile and disgusting today. But Judy WoofWoof's husband, Al Hunt, really let her have it I thought. He basically proved everything that came out of her filthy, nasty mouth was a fabricated LIE.

Novak doesn't look so good these days. I realize he's recuperating, but he looks too frail and sickly to be on debate shows like that one.


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requiem99 Donating Member (663 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:25 PM
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19. Can we get VIDEO please!
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:28 PM
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21. Jon Stewart will jump all over this one. Novak is one of Jon's favorite
targets. Can't wait for the Monday show.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:29 PM
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22. Talk about scumbags and Novak is second only to Cheney and
company.
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oldleftguy Donating Member (419 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:33 PM
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23. I saw it...
I thought a fist fight was going to break out! Cool!
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grasswire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:39 PM
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26. Gawd I hope someone has a clip
I want to see this!

Wouldn't it be great to have a compilation CD? O'Reilly shut up shut up! Colin Powell being replaced by a palm tree (see sig line below). Jon Stewart going off on Crossfire. George jumping to the confetti cannon yesterday. So many, many festive moments to remember!
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shoopnyc123 Donating Member (997 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:36 PM
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24. Kentucky...WAHT IS UP WITH THE MONGIARDO GAY STUFF!!??
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Crunchy Frog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 09:58 PM
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28. Damn! I thought that broken hip
would shut him up for awhile at least. He should have broken his jaw instead.
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harpo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:06 PM
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29. I'll be glad when he's in jail
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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 10:11 PM
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30. I consider it an honor that a douche bag like Nofacts would call me such
It means I'm getting his pet goat
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RevCheesehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:32 PM
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40. Good one!
:thumbsup:
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lanparty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:09 PM
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31. Scumbags who DO NOT ...
... reveal the identity of CIA operatives for the sake of political vendettas.

Oh, the Douchebag for Freedom is in RARE form!!!!

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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:13 PM
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32. Hey Nofacts, the Navy called ........
....... they want their vocabulary back.

Douchebag
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Technowitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:24 PM
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34. Thus spake the Douchebag for Justice...
Somehow this doesn't surprise me. Novak is... despicable. And a GOP tool.
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:25 PM
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35. Rant all you want
you treasonous POS. Bubba's gonna pop that little can of yours in the big house. Karma's a bitch, ain't it?
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Harlan James Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:26 PM
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36. Probably knows he's going to jail for aiding and abetting treason
..if Kerry wins. Along with a whole raft of his con pals.
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johnnyrocket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:27 PM
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37. Robert Novak is the ultimate douchebag.
Goddamn he's scum. Worthless vessel of GOP slime.
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stevietheman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:31 PM
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39. Also note that the McLaughlin group...
this weekend is predicting a "Kerry" victory 3 to 2.
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YouLiedTheyDied Donating Member (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:33 PM
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41. anybody have this as a video file?
So much for the vaunted rpuglicking "civility!"
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:51 PM
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45. Replay At 4am Central...
Check your local listing.

I caught the very end and could see Douchvak & O'Withchiepoo looked all flustered, then flipped over to catch the McLaughlin predictions (Wrrrrrrrrrrong!)...LOL.

Methinks Douchevak knows the game is over and is planning to cash his ticket after the election and is gonna go out with all guns blazing.

This asshole originated the slimy political journalist/hack we know of today, but was restrained for years by his mentor/partner Rolland Evans...ever since Evans died, Douchvak has been spinning so hard he threw his hip out trying to get his head out of his ass after the first debate.

I'll be interested if someone questions him on his deliberate misinformation about Zogby recanting his prediction about Kerry winning...only to have Zogby bitch slap that one down, without mentioning Douchevak, on the Daily Show.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-30-04 11:48 PM
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44. Wondering, was Novak stoned on pain killers?
I'm sorry I didn't get to see that. I look for opportunities to write to these blowhards.

GRABBED HIS ARM??? Wow They should have let the brawl begin. I'd be yeehawing to see someone sucker punch that old prick novak--now THAT would be great TV! :evilgrin:
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melody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 01:22 AM
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48. The Douchebag of Liberty showing his linguistic prowess n/t
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Norquist Nemesis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 02:09 AM
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53. It was telling they hit commercial break after that comment!
Yes, I saw it...and the rest of them were pissed!!! big time after he liternallay attacked liked that!

One of the things I noticed throughout the segment was that the "liberals" stated reasoned opinions while Novak and Katy-whatserface spewed the same tired, vicious, memes...and no defense of their exaulted leader!

Whatever...
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priapis Donating Member (155 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:23 AM
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57. SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE AN MPG & POST____PLEASE PLEASE
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greekspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 07:22 AM
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59. Why in the HELL are you watching this freak's show?
I do not understand. Lets suppose for a minute that it isn't WWE-esque in its staged but laughable antics. Who, besides the ueber reich wing, is going to think calling democrats "scumbags" and physically attacking an opponent is appropriate behavior? God, just put O'Lielly, Novackula, Shamitty, and Limpballs on a program together and call it "WhinyPuke PityParty Hour."
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AmerDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:34 PM
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62. yea, i watched it
Mark Shields was truly pissed. After he grabbed his arm it looked like Novak was ready to shit himself. He's a good man the Shields!
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tomfodw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 03:42 PM
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63. This from a man who committed treason and Bush let him get away with it
Fuck his rancid hide. He's not even worth the time it takes to get angry.
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