The one undeniably excellent thing about Indiana

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

Along with other parts of the union, they don't distract themselves with Daylight Savings Time. The clocks stay the same year-round and it is a lot more sensible-seeming to me.

:)

[trotsky]

1. Ah but then you don't get to mow your lawn at 9pm

and still have sunlight to do it!

[Longhorn]

2. I hate daylight savings time!

Maybe it's the Hoosier in me (I was born there) but my body really hates making the adjustment twice a year. I find myself very sluggish and tired, no matter which direction the clock goes.

[Branjor]

4. The northwest corner of Indiana

goes on daylight savings time.

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

22. Yeah, Chicago suburbs stay in step with their city. nt

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

23. You mean the Chicago suburb part of Indiana

I swear it's the only part of that state that has any intelligence.

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

24. Indianapolis does, too!

The last time I was there for much time, I was amazed at how progressive the Northern part of that city is getting. Or at least it seemed like the neighborhood where my progressive friends from home had all decided to move. :)

The pub-crawl areas, the restaurants, the visible and friendly patrols of the night scene, lots of movie theaters, lots of arts and stage spots...

I think the Indiana future might be increasingly blue.

I know * has alienated a lot of his base there.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

26. Never been to Indianapolis

My mom's from Whiting which is a Chicago burb. It seems when one goes into the countryside of Indiana it's a whole new world.

[lanparty]

27. Oh, you mean in Broad Ripple!!!!

Hehe. Well, I do think that some of the efforts to keep the college graduates in state is helping. And younger people do tend to break Democratic (second to not voting at ALL!!!!).

However, I don't think Watermelon Dannie's seat is in danger anytime soon. Not even the abandonment of his illegitamite son seemed to sway the citizens of Hamilton County who hated Clinton because of his sexual immorality :wtf:

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

31. Yeah, that sounds familiar?

Is it an incoporated suburb, or popular name?

Between the urban areas are vast stretches of Interstate highway (remember, that was built for the use of tanks and army trucks during the cold war) and a lot of other infrastructure. These days, it is increasingly just acres of agribusiness, seemingly. Grissom AFB and others are no longer in use, although there are still quite a few armories, garrisons, and guard personnel.

[Longhorn]

35. Wow, this is like my biography unfolding in this post!

I went to Broad Ripple High School for two years before we moved to Texas! :)

[lanparty]

29. Effectively ... YES

"The Region" has a lot more in common with Chicago than it does with Indianpolis. I've lived in both places (along with Lafayette(Purdue)) and the differences are very apparent.

Everyone watches Chicago TV stations. They listen to Chicago radio stations. Their news programming comes out of Chicago. Residents root for the Cubs/Sox, Bulls and the Bears over the Colts and Pacers!!!! I personally call the region "Chicagiana".

With the super-high real estate prices in Chicago, NW Indiana is increasingly becoming home to Chicago workers. The corridor along 80/94 and 90 is littered with new development. The once derelict South Shore is now running over-capacity (South Bend to Chicago) with commuters as well as day-trippers eager to avoid the traffic snarl on 80/94 and the toll road!!!

Seriously, the traffic along the 80/94 corridor (NW Indiana to Chicago) has become a traffic nightmare in ten years. Ten years ago the road was a speedway. Now it's a parking lot. And I'm not really convinced that the current lane expansions will help much!!!!

I would defitely say that all the cities/towns bordering I-80/94 as well as the entirety of Lake County are effectively suburbs of Chicago!!!

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

32. How does Chicago vote?

Isn't the Region a bastion of blueness, or are those days gone?

I am sad to hear that 80 is a parking lot. I remember when it was a strip of empty blacktop from border to border of the state. A person who was so inclined could drive fast safely.

*cough*

[lanparty]

43. Well ...

Well, Chicagiana is still Democrat. But it isn't the one party system like Chicago has!!!! The demographics out here are changing as chicagoans are moving out here for cheaper real-estate. A lot of them are Republicans. PUt Pete Viscloskey doesn't have to worry about his seat anytime soon.

80 isn't a parking lot. 80/94 is a parking lot, but 80 gets a LOT more use now and you can definitely hit slow spots on that road in Lake County.

BTW, Oprah is a resident up here. And I hope next time around she'll run for Senate against Lugar!!!!!!

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

34. I was there in late May

I have a cousin who takes the South Shore. It's still somewhat derelict but she says it beats driving. The roads there leave a bit to be desired at least compared to where I live, the Seattle area.

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

7. Where where you born, I was born in Bluffton?

I can't stand DST now, either. It seems unnatural. I admit I like getting the extra hour this weekend, but the spring weekend always makes me grouchy. And the dark winter here in Seattle, with sunset at 5pm... Yikes! How does this save daylight again?

;)

I get the impression there are a lot of Hoosiers on DU.

[Longhorn]

9. Rochester, county seat of Fulton County.

Not too far from Fort Wayne and South Bend.

I never really lived there as we moved to Kalamazoo, MI, when I was just a couple of months old, then Battle Creek a year later, then Indianapolis when I was 10 and finally, Spring, TX, when I was 16. But I still have fond memories of autumn in Indiana! :D

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

11. 58 miles from me, as the crow flies.

Bluffon is the county seat of Wells, which you probably know is just south of Fort Wayne's Allen County.

Neat. I was born there in 1972, but grew up in Warren until I moved for college.

[LiberalFighter]

15. Ted Ellis mayor of Bluffton and a Democrat

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

20. That is the current situation right now?

Bluffton has a Democrat mayor? That is such good news. Last time I was in Bluffton (July 2004), I was again really surprised at how big it is getting. Lots of larger businesses and services, too!

What is the sense of the upcoming vote in Bluffton like? Are people able to vote yet, or are polls open only on Tuesday?

[LiberalFighter]

28. Not aware of what is happening directly there...

but here in Allen County early voting is available most of October... the last 2 Saturdays of the month Election Board is also open for early voting.

Should be about the same for all counties in Indiana.

Ellis has been mayor for 2 or 3 terms now I think.

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

36. What's the situation in Allen county, if you know?

Do you live in Ft. Wayne itself? I miss that city sometimes. I remember it as an oasis that had movie theatres, plural, and the shopping malls with stores that had books.

[LiberalFighter]

39. I believe

Allen County: Record Numbers Expected for General Election

Just over 211,000 in 2000
Might be close to 225,000 registered in 2004

Absentee voting/Early Voting is higher than normal too

Indiana voter registration increases

In Johnson County south of Indianapolis, nearly 84,000 voters had registered to vote by the end of the day Friday — almost 7,000 more than the number that registered for the previous presidential and gubernatorial elections in 2000.

Marion County expects to have more than 50,000 newly registered voters, compared with 34,811 in 2000, said Kyle Walker of the county’s voter registration board.

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

40. Wow. That is good news!

Wouldn't it be a pleasant shock if Indiana turned blue....

:)

Those numbers will leave me with pleasant dreams out here in Seattle.

I know I have heard lots of people from home say they are concerned about how long troops are going to be left in harm's way.

[LiberalFighter]

42. Indiana won't turn blue... but it might be closer than usual

[onecent]

18. I was born and raised in Rochester

Great little town..but very republican

[Longhorn]

37. Yes, my family (before me) were very involved in Republican politics.

My grandfather was county clerk in Rochester and my dad was a state representative in the Indianapolis area.

My mother still blames The University of Texas at Austin for brainwashing me. ;)

[lanparty]

30. I'm personally lobbying ...

I'm personally lobbying to change it from the HOOSIER state to the BOILER state!!!!!

Go Purdue Boilermakers!!!!!

[rwheeler31]

3. keep the lights on

good night, we get sleep late, and pay less to the utility company.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

10. I LOVE daylight savings time

Will be sorry to see it go tonight but I can always look forward to spring. I like having daylight after work to play in the yard with the grandkids, or work in the flowers, sit outside and read or mow the lawn. I feel like I have a whole new day when there is so much daylight at the end of it. On the flip side, come fall, I like the feeling of an extra hour a sleep for a couple of nights until my body adjusts. Besides when it is so cold out who wants to be outside at 8 pm?

My friend in Indiana can never remember what time I'm on. She spends half the year thinking she is an hour ahead of me (actually she is an hour behind) and the rest of the year thinking she is a hour behind (we are the same time). She never gets it right. When we meet up I always have to double check the schedule - see which one she is on. I kid her about it a lot.

Just to keep the post honest - she is my dear repug friend that has finally, finally seen the light! She, her retired Army husband, daughter, and military officer son-in-law are all voting for Kerry. Yahoo! Would have never dream of doing so before Shrub. Two more for Kerry in the Indiana column, two less for BoyGeorge, two more for Kerry in PA column, well you know who loses.

[lachattefolle]

5. I like that about Arizona too! n/t

[idiosyncratic]

12. It was very confusing when I lived in So. Utah

Everyone had to post "Utah Time" or "Arizona Time" on invitations or garage sale signs.

Even with that people were always an hour early or an hour late to things.

[hippiechick]

6. Nope, it sucks

Actually the very north and southwestern tips DO follow DST - so for part of the year, parts of the state are not even in the same time zone.

Makes business suck.

My family in other states never know for sure what time it is here when they call, either.

This place is so golldam backwards it scares me !!


Oh, and this isn't exactly a Campaign 04 topic :hi:


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[Heath.Hunnicutt]

8. Keeping track is sort of pain, yeah.

The rest of the nation should switch to Indiana's way, is all. :)

How is the campaign going there, anyway?

It sounds like you live in a backward part. ;)

[lanparty]

33. DST favors early risers!!!!

Daylight savings favors people who rise early and get things done early. I'm not one of those people. But I think I'd be more productive if I were!!!!!

It's VERY ironic that a rural state populated by farmers would be AGAINST daylight savings. It's the urbanites who seem to be pushing it in favor of eliminating the mess and confusion of central Indiana moving between Central time in the summer to Eastern time in the winter.

If it ever DOES change, expect a line to be drawn down the east/central side of the state. Communities close to Ohio will want to go eastern. While the center and western portions will want to go into central time to match up with Illinois and Chicago!!!!

[LiberalFighter]

16. Is the media going to do the same thing they say they are in Florida?

Florida is in two time zones... Panhandle is in CST

Media I believe stated that they were not going to call Florida until all polls were closed. They should do the same for Indiana.


Looks like it should be the same for Kentucky, Tennessee, North and South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas, Idaho, Oregon, even Texas.

[IndianaGreen]

13. Spring forward. Fall back.

Somehow many of my fellow Hoosiers find Daylight Savings Time intellectually challenging, which may explain why we are such a hopeless red state.

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

14. Is it really hopeless there?

A good fraction of my relatives who have been life-long red voters are blue voters this year.

[IndianaGreen]

41. Let's see how many Hoosiers will vote for the idiot Daniels

I know that unions such as USWA are busting their asses to get the vote out, but they and others like them cannot break the cultural barrier of suburbia. Communities such as Fishers, Carmel, and Noblesville in Central Indiana have so few Democrats and other progressives that we could only get a Marxist to volunteer as Democratic precinct committee chair (it wasn't me, I am not so fortunate to afford to live there).

[SaintLouisBlues]

17. The old joke is that savings time was opposed by the farmers

of Indiana...they were afraid their crops would wither due to the extra hour of sun.

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

21. My grandparents on both sides were farmers, thought that was hilarious

And of course, our neighbors were mainly farmers.

I remember my grandmother one day laughing with me about that joke. "Oh," she cackled, "that's a good one! The cows will hold the milk another hour while we set the clocks!"

They pretty much just awakened at 4:30am CST every day for 30 years. If there had been daylight savings time, they would have had to switch to 3:30 or 5:30 one of the two parts of the year.

I think the parts of Indiana that have CDT are the suburbs of Chicago, where it is more relevant to keep up with the urban core there.

[Mr_Spock]

19. I am very jealous. I fucking HATE this crap.

I refuse to change my clocks - I'm just gonna go to work early and leave early - I need my sunlight.

[Heath.Hunnicutt]

25. Daylight Savings Time is not logical

So says Mr. Spock. They need free avatars so all the science people can be blue shirts. ;)

[bloom]

38. I agree - I like natural time

None of the arguements for DST ever made any sense to me.

It's the other states that should change and go natural - not us changing for them!!!!


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