Holy shit, Eminem is doing Mosh on SNL right NOW!

[KelleyKramer]

I cant believe it!

Check out NBC right now.

Wow!

[Zero Gravitas]

1. yes!

Scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, reenergize, and rewind
I give sight to the blind, mind sight through the mind
I ostracize my right to express when I feel it's time
It's just all in your mind, what you interpret it as
I say to fight you take it as I知 gonna whip someone's ass
If you don't understand don't even bother to ask
A father who has grown up with a fatherless past
Who has blown up now to rap phenomenon that has
Or at least shows no difficulty multi task
And juggling both, perhaps mastered his craft slash
Entrepreneur who has held long too few more rap acts
Who has had a few obstacles thrown his way through the last half
Of his career typical manure moving past that
Mister kiss his ass crack, he's a class act
Rubber band man, yea he just snaps back

Come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors

To the people up top, on the side and the middle,
Come together, let's all bomb and swamp just a little
Just let it gradually build, from the front to the back
All you can see is a sea of people, some white and some black
Don't matter what color, all that matters is we gathered together
To celebrate for the same cause, no matter the weather
If it rains let it rain, yea the wetter the better
They ain't gonna stop us, they can't, we're stronger now more then ever,
They tell us no we say yea, they tell us stop we say go,
Rebel with a rebel yell, raise hell we gonna let em know
Stomp, push up, mush, fuck Bush, until they bring our troops home come on just . . .

Come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors, come on

Imagine it pouring, it's raining down on us,
Mosh pits outside the oval office
Someone's trying to tell us something, maybe this is God just saying
we're responsible for this monster, this coward, that we have empowered
This is Bin Laden, look at his head nodding,
How could we allow something like this, Without pumping our fist
Now this is our, final hour
Let me be the voice, and your strength, and your choice
Let me simplify the rhyme, just to amplify the noise
Try to amplify the times it, and multiply it by six
Teen million people are equal of this high pitch
Maybe we can reach Al Quaida through my speech
Let the President answer on high anarchy
Strap him with AK-47, let him go
Fight his own war, let him impress daddy that way
No more blood for oil, we got our own battles to fight on our soil
No more psychological warfare to trick us to think that we ain't loyal
If we don't serve our own country we're patronizing a hero
Look in his eyes, it's all lies, the stars and stripes
They've been swiped, washed out and wiped,
And Replaced with his own face, mosh now or die
If I get sniped tonight you'll know why, because I told you to fight

So come along, follow me as I lead through the darkness
As I provide just enough spark, that we need to proceed
Carry on, give me hope, give me strength,
Come with me, and I won't stear you wrong
Put your faith and your trust as I guide us through the fog
Till the light, at the end, of the tunnel, we gonna fight,
We gonna charge, we gonna stomp, we gonna march through the swamp
We gonna mosh through the marsh, take us right through the doors

And as we proceed, to mosh through this desert storm, in these closing statements, if they should argue, let us beg to differ, as we set aside our differences, and assemble our own army, to disarm this weapon of mass destruction that we call our president, for the present, and mosh for the future of our next generation, to speak and be heard, Mr. President, Mr. Senator

[Sugarbleus]

20. Wow, thanks for the lyrics......... SNL ain't on yet but got my

tuner handy.........can't wait. Thank you Em!!

GO the YOUTH VOTE!!

[meganmonkey]

2. sometimes i miss tv.

that's cool - i'm glad SNL didn't try to thwart it!

[KelleyKramer]

5. I really didnt think they would let him

After all, NBC is owned by a huge military contractor.

[ShaneGR]

3. Not the best performance....

But a good song....

[YouLiedTheyDied]

6. pulling an ashlee

lip-synching big time!

[girl gone mad]

68. ???????????????

Try again.

How would it even be possible to lip synch such a complex song, and what would be the point?

What a bizarre accusation to make.

[progdonkey]

54. he WAS lip-synching...

He was lip-synching--or at the very least accompanied by a very thick backing track. There were times when he was quite obviously not speaking, but the track was still going--not like it's a big deal. He quite plainly had about seven overdubs accompanying his voice, so it's not like he was hiding it.

[offcenter]

4. Eminem

He's lip synchin

[madrchsod]

12. sure is or the sound track

is over dubbed with his voice..the first one sure looked like he` was lipping it and second time was not as clear...

[iwantmycountryback]

Why would he lip synch?

He raps he doesn't sing.

[Zero Gravitas]

7. THAT WAS FUCKING AWESOME

3 days to go...

[Kire]

8. brought to you by Budweiser

not Coors? hee hee

[stranger_with_candy]

9. Worst. Lip Sync. Ever.

[jefferson_dem]

19. Wrong on all counts.

[stranger_with_candy]

21. As many times as he moved the mic...

and you still heard his voice... or his mouth wasn't moving.. and you still heard his voice... give me a break.

[Weembo]

24. You need to go to Rap 101

Usually, you run with a full track behind you - that's how he got the distorted echo - and why was he spitting?

[stranger_with_candy]

26. They didn't offer

Rap 101 at my school.

[Weembo]

28. Once you have 5 teenagers, you get to go for free

[stranger_with_candy]

31. Damn

I'm too young to have five teenagers :P

[pacalo]

35. LOL!

[jefferson_dem]

32. Cool. So let's not pretend we know then, ok?

[stranger_with_candy]

34. let's not pretend we do either.

[jefferson_dem]

38. ...if we don't, we won't. That's the point. Cheers!

:toast:

[stranger_with_candy]

39. next round

is on me...

[endnote]

50. Last week, due to a techincal glitch, it was obvious the SNL singer was

lipsynching. It was a bit of a scandal. Which means, they are NOT supposed to lipsynch.

[maxudargo]

49. I'm with you

You're fighting a hopeless fight, but I'm on your side. From the sidelines.

I'm not going to, uh..."give props" to M&M because he made an anti-Bush song. He's still M&M.

I'm going to go listen to some Moby now...

[stranger_with_candy]

52. what are you a freeper?

4 posts and disagreeing? only a matter of time til someone calls you that so i figure i'll just beat them to it... :P

[maxudargo]

55. LOL

I love DU, but you do have to be careful. Too bad, but I understand. We monitor the freepers and they monitor us. We have to monitor ourselves and the moderators are our political Super-Egos.

Things will be better after 11/2, relaxing in the warm, victorious glow. What a wonderful morning we will awake to on 11/3.

Until then, I guess we have to acknowledge this M&M jerk-off as some sort of heroic ally. As if we need him. But... Whatcha gonna do?

[stranger_with_candy]

56. you don't have to acknowledge anything

not much you can do but ignore the eminem is god posts.

[maxudargo]

57. Hm.

[stranger_with_candy]

60. exactly

[maxudargo]

62. I love your user name.

[stranger_with_candy]

63. thanks

greatest tv show ever. well maybe not ever. but i love it.

[maxudargo]

66. I didn't know it was a TV show

I just thought you were clever.

[girl gone mad]

69. Why don't you two go get a room somewhere. n/t

[stranger_with_candy]

70. why?

you want to watch?

[maxudargo]

71. Open your heart, crazy girl

Don't be afraid of love.

[LibertyorDeath]

65. Moby ROFLMAO!

Moby stop you're killin me...

[jefferson_dem]

27. What you hear = sampling (look it up if you don't know) + live output

Basically : All sounds that you heard were not "live", granted, but that does not mean he was lip syncing.

[Mr_Spock]

33. I agree that he was singing with a sample, BUT, the synch was a bit messed

up at times - not the smoothest thing I have ever seen. Still, it's the lyrics, stupid!

[iwantmycountryback]

67. I'm pretty sure that was intentional

[DoYouEverWonder]

22. Sowhat? It's the broadcast that counts

Unfortunately, it seems the SNL stage is not set up for live performances. I would assume that everyone that goes on has to lip sync. It really doesn't matter unless they play the wrong song.

[Renew Deal]

75. I didn't see it but...

It's very unlikely. He's one of the best in the game. He doesn't need to lip synch.

[high density]

10. I don't think he even tried to lip sync

But I don't really give a crap. Any anti-Bush song played over the GE network is fine with me.

[KittyWampus]

18. He Didn't Seem To Be "Hidding" Anything. Heck, This Isn't Merv Griffin

:D

[KelleyKramer]

11. He held up a big "VOTE" sign

Good for him!!

[madmax]

13. Anyone have the animated link..please.

[FellowAmerican]

14. Good

but I couldn't understand a word he said. I'm not a big rap fan.

[jefferson_dem]

15. Damn. That's some heavy shit! Eminem gives Chimp a backhanded bitchslap!

Big time number!

Kind of harkens me back to THE one that set the standard -

Come you masters of war
You that build all the guns
You that build the death planes
You that build the big bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin'
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it's your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you set back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
As young people's blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You've thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain't worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I'm young
You might say I'm unlearned
But there's one thing I know
Though I'm younger than you
Even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death'll come soon
I will follow your casket
In the pale afternoon
And I'll watch while you're lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I'll stand o'er your grave
'Til I'm sure that you're dead

http://www.bobdylan.com/songs/masters.html

[Papillon]

29. I watched Pearl Jam perform this song tonight

on the rebroadcast of National Anthem. What a powerful song. Thanks for the words.

[KelleyKramer]

53. Do you have a link to Vedders 'Masters of War' ????

I'm friggen dying to see that, heard it was VERY good.

You (or ANYONE) have a link to it??

[atre]

16. Did anyone else notice that "F*ck Bush" wasn't bleeped?

The lip-synching was pretty bad. I guess they all do this on SNL.

[ezod]

23. He said "PUNK Bush" eom

[endnote]

48. No, not true...

he wasn't lip-synching. There is more than one voice, the other voices were going in the background, but that's the way it is in the song.

[girl gone mad]

72. Correct.

It's no different than having back up singers. He uses a track to create vocal effects, just like there is a track with his background music, which his DJ controls.

It doesn't take anything away from his live performance, since he is still rapping in real time. He isn't lip sycnching, his background track only adds the effects where they are needed, like at the end of a verse when there is an echo.

[tilsammans]

17. Incredible!

Even if he was lip-synchin' it.

Thank you, Eminem!

[faithnotgreed]

25. what lyrics did they cut at the end?

[blitzen]

30. the part from the al sharpton speech n/t

[atre]

43. What part came from the Sharpton speech?

The racial profiling part?

[blitzen]

51. the very end, spoken word part, is from...

a Sharpton speech--or so I've heard. The part that's on as they're all walking into the courthouse to vote.

[StrongbadTehAwesome]

74. that would be cool if it were true, but

if it is, I can't find the Sharpton speech ANYWHERE.

[KelleyKramer]

41. They cut at least a minute from the song

I watched it on the net so remember that it’s a good 5 minutes long.

The SNL variety show format doesnt allow that much time for a song.

It was definitely shorter than the 5 minute video. Not sure if that was all of it, but the part cut off at the end was the most notable.

[osaMABUSh]

36. First rap song I (this 40 something dude) liked!

It actually sounded pretty decent and, of course, the lyrics rocked. I can see the 18-29 crowd getting down on the dance floor to this and then taken the message and running with it!

[KelleyKramer]

42. The video is MUCH better!

Not much of a fan either, but that video is very strong. Hell, powerful!

If you havent seen it you should really check it out.

If you dont have a link let me know and will dig around and post it back.

[kokomo]

44. I'm 65 and liked Mosh but then I used to listen to poets in coffee houses

in the 1950's recite their poetry to the rhythm of bongo drums.

People who don't like rap don't understand that it's mostly about THE WORDS!

[KelleyKramer]

47. Is that like Def Poetry??

I always wondered if the Def Poetry show on HBO was similar to the old coffee houses like you are talking about.

There has been some great stuff on those Def Poet shows.

[DefenseLawyer]

73. Not that it's my place

to broaden anyone's musical horizons (as an almost 40 something dude). But for content you might check out some Public Enemy from late 80's/early 90's. They push the envelope at times, but Chuck definitely had something to say. Black Steel in the Hour of Chaos still gets my blood pumping.

I got a letter from the government
The other day
I opened and read it
It said they were suckers
They wanted me for their army or whatever
Picture me given' a damn - I said never
Here is a land that never gave a damn
About a brother like me and myself
Because they never did
I wasn't wit' it, but just that very minute...
It occured to me
The suckers had authority

[fishwax]

37. Wow! I'm a little surprised they let him

:bounce:

[thinksmart]

40. Video is on mtv.com

http://www.mtv.com/

[Lorien]

45. I can't believe that nearly every post on this thread is about

the %$#@&*! lip synching! It was a playback that he rapped with-big deal. Hell, I'm just glad they got the song on television before the election. A big "in your face" to BushCo!

[KelleyKramer]

46. Ignore the flames, check the 10 posts before yours

Ignore that flame war, and take a look at the posts just above yours.

[HR_Pufnstuf]

58. sorry folks, but thats pretty weak song.

good lyrics, terrible music.

i think ole em is even backtracking too.

u want hiphop???? check this page out,

http://www.soundclick.com/stations/stations.cfm?id=107657

itll run circles round N-E-Thing.

[LibertyorDeath]

59. This should bring out the lurking Rightards

Come out come out wherever you are.

You have been duped by the dumbest pResident in all of American history.

Eminem is telling it like it is.

[realcountrymusic]

61. Complete MOSH resource page

download videos, mp3s, articles -- spread this around please -- not much time to get it out there some more

http://www.independentmediasource.com/tmp/mosh.htm

rcm

[iwantmycountryback]

64. It was a great performance

I'm glad they let him do it after all the Kerry bashing they did on the show tonight.

[digno dave]

76. LIP-SYNC!!!!!!!!!!

hahahahahahahaha
and a poor job at that.

[Daocrat]

77. Yes, fine, it was a lip sync.

Anyone not admitting the fact that this was rapped over a very strong backing track is just fooling themselves. That being said, I really couldn't give a damn. Unlike Ashlee's Simpson's trite consumeristic rubbish, which loses all value when lip-synched, Eminem actually had something to say. The fact that the words kept coming with no appreciable difference in sound when his mouth was closed or the mic was lowered really doesn't make a whole lot of difference as far as what was said. I'm just glad the thing got played on as large a venue as SNL. I wouldn't have cared if they had cranked it out of an old 45 RPM Victrola machine while Eminem sat and gave himself a manicure, as long as the words were heard.

Eminem has a dubious past, but people can change, and people can learn to contribute. His song is certainly a significant contribution, and in my mind it goes a long way toward erasing any ugliness in the past.

It was lip-synched? Yep, it sure was... and so what? This is a political statement, the words are what is important, whether from a backing track or anything else. This ain't Ashlee Simpsons vapid crap, which has no value aside from the appeal of the performer.