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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:08 PM
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Zogby News: "Again, any one of the four can win this one”
1/16/2003 ... http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=781

Pollster John Zogby: "Kerry leads among Democrats, young and old voters, men and women, liberals and moderates, and those who say they are 'definitely voting' on Monday.

"There is a three-way cluster among union voters, but Dean is the candidate who is out of the loop."

"Most of the demographic groups are actually clustered. So the issue will be – as it always is – turnout. Gephardt still has arguably the best team on the ground and is very much alive."

"Again, any one of the four can win this one”

Candidate
1/13-15

MA Senator John Kerry
24

Former VT Governor Howard Dean
19

MO Congressman Richard Gephardt
19

NC Senator John Edwards
17

Nail Biter still on in IA.
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Feanorcurufinwe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:16 PM
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1. Kerry finally breaks out of the MOE


What does Zogby mean by: "There is a three-way cluster among union voters, but Dean is the candidate who is out of the loop."

:wtf:

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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:19 PM
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2. No doubt Zogby is now under cyber attack
from certain quarters....
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ClarkGraham2004 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:22 PM
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4. Yes, only Dean is capable of leading.
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1floridademocrat Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:51 PM
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5. OT But..
I Live in Florida.. but I really don't think Graham is going to pull Florida in for a win.

Grahams biggest strength here in Florida was his rural support.. but when he started talking about impeaching Bush.. his support in the rural areas went down.. way down.

If you must take a Florida Senator, use Nelson, hes not up for Relection till 06, and his base os much strongly in the urban areas, those are the areas your going to have to get down here to win.
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ClarkGraham2004 Donating Member (337 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 07:24 PM
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10. What about Edwards?
How would he affect things in Florida?
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drfemoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:21 PM
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3. I don't know
what that means either.
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NewHampster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 08:59 PM
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6. Zogby is a wrong wing agent.
My first post. Yeaaa!

I think Dean will win Iowa and NH despite the polls and because his incredible workers know every voter and will make sure they vote. But the latest bull the media is focused on has me totally frosted.

Dean is the only one who can beat Bush and the scum know it. So what does puppeteer Rove do? and I'm convinced that the one who is perhaps the greatest PR man in history is behind all things that are underhanded, sneaky lies.

Plan a) Drop little rumors into the mix that Dean is not electable, let the other candidates pick it up and do the republican work of pushing a Bush Lite to run against the machine. And to help out he gets the media hooked on the "Framing" of Dean as Un-Electable. This is what they do and we have to fight.

Plan b) Make sure the press keeps coming back to Deans wife Judith Steinberg Dean. How can a professional women not drop everything and hit the road with her husband? Well I don't think the ones fanning the flames of this non-issue really care, I think Rove loves to see a very Jewish name tied to Bushs' #1 rival. This is another case of playing the race, creed, religion card without coming out and saying, "hey, Deans wife is a Jew".

Plan c) Still to happen. If and when Jimmy Carter endorses Dean you'll see Iran Embassy retrospectives on Fox and all the other networks. Just to remind the people of who Carter is but really meant smear his standing as the most respected of Americans.

Plan d) Who the heck is Zogby? A republican owned pollster? I wouldn't doubt it and this article makes me wonder more. He seems to always be on the Wrong wing side of issues but since he's a pollster he must be honest and telling the truth. Bull Hockey. me from nh George2.org
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anti-bush Donating Member (397 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 10:46 PM
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7. Welcome to DU!
Glad to have you here.
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Logansquare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-04 11:10 PM
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8. Welcome to DU! I have to say Zogby lost me when
he characterized Dean supporters as wearing sandals and driving Volvos. It was especially funny considering that Iowa is cold as hell right now, and Volvos--that's such an 80s liberal stereotype. Jesus, I only know one person who is driving a Volvo, and he curses the thing like it were Satan.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-04 10:06 AM
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9. Hi NewHampster!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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