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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:08 PM
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Kerry by a landslide!
I've been saying for weeks, and it looks like it is going to shake out that way!

I am so pumped!
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:10 PM
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1. No, it doesn't. You drinking Kool-aid again? It looks like Kerry has a
good chance of winning marginally. Bush also has a chance of winning, if Kerry screws up.

There is no chance of Kerry getting 60% (a landslide).
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TruthIsAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:13 PM
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3. If Kerry gets 53% it would be a landslide (7-8%% margin)
He would win with over 360 EV
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:30 PM
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11. Exactly.
And I think that is JUST what will happen.

I think that the current round of media predictions of a Kerry victory will work to keep more marginal Bush supporters at home.
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 07:26 AM
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16. All I'm hearing are Bush win projections. Where are you hearing
Kerry win projections? Yesterday on CNN & MSNBC - Bush win projections by pundits. All of them, except those who say too close to call. Not one Kerry projection. (I'm speaking of pundits, now, not Kerry or Bush people, who of course predict wins for their candidates.)
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 07:24 AM
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15. I don't consider that a landslide. Reagan was a landslide, with
60% or close to 60% (and over 400 EVs). But 53%? That's a comfortable margin, but hardly a landslide, IMO. Maybe that's the difference, what some people consider a landslide.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:13 PM
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4. It isn't even going to be close.
Bush has almost no chance.
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ahem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:39 PM
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12. I agree with you...
Not even close.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:14 PM
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6. electoral or popular?
He could get 60% of the electoral vote.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:15 PM
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8. Electoral
Kerry's strategy is all about the Electoral College.

And I think we are likely to get over 300 EVs.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:11 PM
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2. To benburch
watch out there are people here who will jump on you for saying "landslide."
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:14 PM
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5. Bring them on.
Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 06:14 PM by benburch
We are going to destroy the GOP tomorrow.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:15 PM
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7. One day short of the election? Alright! nt.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:15 PM
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9. Well, OK, On Tuesday.
Sheesh...
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:17 PM
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10. No, no, I'd rather anihilate them on Monday! nt.
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 06:41 PM
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13. I won't jump on anyone for saying landslide...
but I wish I heard it a little less often.
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 07:36 PM
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14. Why?
I think it is the most hopeful thing you could hear...
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TexasSissy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 07:33 AM
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17. Hopeful & positive is saying we are likely to win. False bravado is
saying we're a shoe in to win a landslide. There is just no factual or historical basis for saying or thinking that. It sets people up for a big letdown. And it just makes people tend not to listen at all to people who predict a Kerry win.

I believe in reality. It looks like Kerry is favored to win by a small majority of EVs. Nothing more. Bush is solid in almost all the states he won in 2000, and several of them have increased in electoral votes (because of population increase), while several Democratic states have decreased in EVs (Pa. for one). Additionally, Kerry is struggling to keep several Dem. states that Gore won. Bush, on the other hand, is struggling to keep two important states that he won last time (Ohio and CO). Bush's job approval hovers at 49%, on average. Not enough to predict a loss, but not enough to predict a win for him. It's just not tested, historically.

In order to win, Kerry would need Pa., Ohio, and probably Florida. All three. Or...he'd have to win ALL of the other battleground states that he is statistically tied with Bush on right now. Tough but doable. To win by a landslide, he'd have to win Pa., Ohio, Florida, and most of the other battleground states that he's tied with Bush on, even those where Bush is leading by several points. That is extremely unlikely. The same is true for Bush. Everything points to a marginal win by one or the other.

Of course, I'd love for the unlikely to happen, and for Kerry to win by a landslide. I'd absolutely love it. But I'll settle for just a win of any size.
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