newsguyatl
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:04 PM
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Brace yourselves, new Gallup poll |
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and it shows a DEAD heat! 49/49 when adjusted for independant voters.
cnn will announce in a few.
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:05 PM
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1. yawnnn these MEANINGLESS polls make me sleepy |
newsguyatl
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:06 PM
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a GALLUP poll showing a dead heat is NEWS, namely because gallup is always so skewed to the right.
this translates in a probably a 5 point advantage for kerry.
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:07 PM
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some people find them fun. |
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:09 PM
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21. Maybe You Can Find A Board For The Somnolent |
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:05 PM
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What is the headline number? What does it mean to adjust for independent voters? Is that independent swing toward one candidate?
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:05 PM
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3. What did the previous most recent Gallup show? |
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:05 PM
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Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 08:06 PM by sonicx
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:07 PM
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So Kerry gained 8 points in a few days huh? |
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Is Gallup claiming this as unstoppable momentum?
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:08 PM
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16. sorry, it was 6. but yeah |
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:06 PM
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5. I think it was a six point Bush lead before. |
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:09 PM
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20. Didn't they pull this in 2000 too--big lead for * until JUST b-4 election? |
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:06 PM
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6. Man, I was expecting the worst |
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with your thread title. You got me! :)
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:07 PM
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"We have looked at it different ways and we may even present an alternative model that discounts voting history," Newport said in an interview Sunday as his organization wrapped up its final poll of the 2004 race. If there is evidence of a surge of support for Kerry, he said, "It will be picked up."
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:24 PM
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Because it's quite obvious Kerry has gained!
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:06 PM
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8. What do you mean "adjusted for independents"? |
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In any case, I'll wait to see to believe :)
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:10 PM
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"Using voting behavior data from pervious elections, the Gallup organization attempted to estimate how the undecideds would vote Tuesday.
The result was a tie of 49 percent each for Bush and Kerry, with 1 percent for Nader and 1 percent for other candidates.
In the history of polling, Gallup has never come out with a tied race in its final pre-election estimate -- just one more footnote for the history books in a history-making campaign."
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:06 PM
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9. Is this the model that has a greater weight given to Republicans? |
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:07 PM
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11. What is this?- their CYA poll? |
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Gallup is useless and I would say this even if they put Kerry up by 10
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:23 PM
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This is the CYA poll. They did one of these right before the 2000 elections as well.
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:07 PM
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Let me guess the sample:
Republican - 45% Democrat - 30% Independant - 25%
Am I close??
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:09 PM
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that's why a tie is such good news.
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:12 PM
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26. That story says Bush is up 4 in Pennsylvania |
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:08 PM
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15. Could be good news for Kerry |
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I heard a Republican spokesperson say on the radio that if the polls are tied on Election Day, Kerry wins because of the increase in voter registration! :bounce:
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:09 PM
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18. Good. But, ignore the polls!!! Ignore them. Ignore all of them. |
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Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 08:10 PM by w4rma
Analyzing them does not help elect Democrats. Analyzing the polls to death is a waste of time. It's a waste of time for everyone. Big media likes to talk about the polls because then they don't have to spend air time trying to defend the Republican Party's indefensable positions. Ignore the polls.
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:09 PM
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<<DRAMA>>>....<CHANGE THE CHANNEL>...<<DRAMA>>
It wouldn't have been any fun for them if it were any other way!
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:10 PM
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23. Heh, it was just on... |
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It's still bullshit, but kinda funny.
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:11 PM
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25. btw, this poll is still crap and has WILD partisan swings |
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:14 PM
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27. should say: "when adjusted for undecideds," as CNN just reported. nt |
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:15 PM
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28. Keep in mind a lot of the Dems are out trick or treating |
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with their kids this weekend
All the fundies got in a huff because Halloween feel on a Sunday this year, so they are more likely to be home answering their phones.
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:17 PM
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Who gets called on these polls anyway? Has anyone out there ever been called? I never have and I have three phone numbers. Are they constantly talking to the same people? So much for the polls!
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:17 PM
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The only poll that counts is the one on Election Day.
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:21 PM
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31. This is great news, just like Zogby |
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We don't know how much faith to put in these tracking polls but being even in Gallup is like being 6-8 points up in real life.
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Sun Oct-31-04 08:26 PM
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34. Gallup has been one of the WORST polls in this race |
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They've consistently overpolled Repugs, skewing the results badly.
When corrected for this, Kerry almost always leads -- but do the Gallup people ever thing to ask themselves, "Y'know, this 40% Republican total is out of line with actual voting patterns"?
Nope. Far as I'm concerned, they're a Repug tool.
Them finally calling it even, to me, equals a massive Kerry landslide.
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