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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:18 PM
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Gallup gives Kerry lead in Ohio, Florida but Bush ahead in Pa!!??
Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 08:20 PM by WI_DEM
The polls are NUTS. Gallup has Kerry up by three in Ohio and four Florida and Bush up by four in Pennsylvania. I always thought PA. was Kerry's strongest of the three and still think he will win it.

Gallup has Kerry up by 8 in Minnesota and Bush up by 8 in Wisconsin!!
and a statistical deadheat in Iowa (48-46 for Bush).

Kerry aint going to lose WI and we are nowhere near 8 points down.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:20 PM
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1. eff them.... it's up to the voters...get everyone you know to vote
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:20 PM
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2. Gallup is out of their fucking minds and CNN should be ashamedfor using em
fuckers. :grr:
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:20 PM
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3. Gallup has Kerry up 2 in PA among registered voters in this poll
Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 08:22 PM by lancdem
which just reinforces how terrible their LV methodology is.

We are not going to lose PA, WI or IA.
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sonicx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:22 PM
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4. god, i hate them so much...
they had Kerry down 6 a week ago and now he's magically tied. They know their methods are aweful! :grr:
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byronm Donating Member (376 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:23 PM
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6. Working the hood'
And i haven't seen a single republican canvasing anywhere.

And i've done just about every town in the heart of conservative lancaster.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:33 PM
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12. You live in Lancaster County?
Me too! :hi:
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pabloseb Donating Member (510 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:32 PM
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11. Where are the registered voters numbers?

I can't find them anywhere.
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lancdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:34 PM
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14. It was in an article on another thread
I'll see if I can find it.
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KittyWampus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:22 PM
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5. Give Me A Break! Are You Really Concerned About These Fucking Polls?
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:25 PM
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7. no are you?
Just sayin we ain't gonna lose Wisconsin. Just making conversation. Is that cool with you?
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montana500 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:26 PM
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8. Ill take those numbers. Thats a Kerry win.
I would take tonights zogby numbers too. That's a kerry win as well.

All the numbers are showing a Kerry win.
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jefferson_dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:27 PM
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9. Gallup = supreme crapola
What a bunch of funky nonsensical numbers. Down in PA and by that much in WI? Fuck that. That being said, i LOVE those FL and OH digits.

Oh well...it's all about the voters now. Let's rock n' roll!
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:29 PM
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10. ARGH, now I know why CNN.coN is reporting Newsweek poll all day,
and not their very own Gallup, which has them tied for once. :puke::puke::puke:
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:34 PM
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13. I do not know about Florida (there the crooked Jeb factor is
unfortunately in play) or Ohio, but I just talked to my daughter (known here as Ramsey) and she assures me that Pa. is going Kerry. The dems have registered 100,000 new voters just in Philly.
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nickn777 Donating Member (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:39 PM
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15. LOL....Zogby has Kerry up by 8 in Wisc.
WTF??

If 3 million people show up to vote in Wisconsin, thats about a 240,000 or almost quarter of a million vote swing between Zogby's total from a day ago and Gallups from today, if my quick math is correct.

I can see the headline at Faux/CNN: "Quarter of a Million Wisconsin Voters Switch to Bush"

Ridiculous, something is very wrong with the polls. This is a 16 point swing from +8 to -8.....Can't be.

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baltodemvet Donating Member (529 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:40 PM
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16. PA is blue!
Dems from all over have been all over that state, working small cities that have never seen a registration/gotv effort on this scale. With decent turn-out in Philly & Pittsburgh, there's no doubt in my mind that PA will go blue--decisively.
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andym Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:46 PM
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17. The poll to poll variation is pretty big right now.
With the polling very close at the national level, and the variation in the state polling, the only conclusion we can be sure of, is that it appears that the election may hinge on GOTV. If you live in any state where Kerry doesn't lead by more than 7-8% in every poll, please help with GOTV. You may very well might make the difference.



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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 08:51 PM
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18. I saw this on CNN.
Stooge divided up the battle states and said Kerry would get 265 electorial votes and Bush 249 (the exact numbers I cannot remember, how many of those guys are there anyway?) Well, what's gonna happin? What're we gonna do? Chicken Little and Barnyard Friends watching the sky fall.

Maybe while they're watching the skies with their mouth hung open, it will rain, and they will drown.

That would be the best of all possible television worlds.
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liberalpragmatist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 09:01 PM
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19. Whatever. I'd take a loss in PA if we get OH and FL
I doubt this poll. While I like it, I'll wait till I know some of the internals whether or not to trust it.

I highly doubt that Pennsylvania will go to Bush barring a decisive Bush win.

Frankly, though, if we lost Pennsylvania but won Ohio, Florida, and held most of the upper midwest and other Gore states, we'd still win. I only care about 270.

That being said, it would be a major fluke if by some bizarre offhand chance Bush won Pennsylvania but lost Ohio and Florida.

LP's final call: 299 to 239 OR 306 to 232 (depending on Iowa).
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George_Bonanza Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 09:23 PM
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20. Florida, Ohio, and Penn. are all going Kerry
I always felt Ohio was the weakest of them all, but I'm confident the jobs issue will win over enough voters at the end.
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