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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:42 PM
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"Bush Is Tenacious and Efficient & Kerry Is Cautious and Conceited"
Edited on Sun Oct-31-04 10:46 PM by The Nation
President Bush is tenacious and efficient, and Sen. John Kerry is cautious and conceited — at least, that's what an analysis of their handwriting shows.

Sheila Kurtz, who heads the Graphology Consulting Group in New York City, said the candidates' handwriting "crystallizes some of the feelings I had, what their stress level is, what they're thinking, whether they're diplomatic."

Mark Hopper, head of Handwriting Research Corp. in Phoenix, said his analysis of the candidates' handwriting over many years shows Bush is efficient and impatient with tediousness. Kerry is a conceptual thinker, but inflexible and stubborn, a criticism the Democrat has used against Bush.

Bush's small lines on the top of stroke marks and a small hook to the left of a ‘T' demonstrate he has a "tenacious single-mindedness," Kurtz said. His use of tightly closed loops in round letters belies a "tendency for narrow vision that might indicate his mind is shuttered almost completely to ‘off-the-program' ideas," she said.

full article may be found here: http://www.record-journal.com/articles/2004/10/31/news/state/state02.txt

Bush's Handwriting:

Kerry's Handwriting:

>>>I think it's all a bunch of poppycock.
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troublemaker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:44 PM
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1. All you do is post anti-Kerry tripe like "why is Kerry orange?"
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:45 PM
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2. What are you talking about?
I don't agree with it, it's just an f'n story I found.
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CindyDale Donating Member (941 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:48 PM
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3. Yeah, right
Her characterizations are off the wall. If Bush is anything, he's not intuitive, never guesses anything right.

Cindy
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:48 PM
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4. Conceptual thinker versus close-minded
Hmmm, when both are stubborn, which would I rather have? Someone who is not open to other ideas and remains stubbornly fixed on the wrong one? Or someone who is strong, will consider the possibilities, and will stand firmly on the right choice?

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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:49 PM
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5. Lessee
Hmmm, when both are stubborn, which would I rather have? Someone who is not open to other ideas and remains stubbornly fixed on the wrong one? Or someone who is strong, will consider the possibilities, and will stand firmly on the right choice?
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TimeToGo Donating Member (656 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:52 PM
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8. Stupid
I am not sure any of this kind of analysis has any validity -- but when one knows the people involved it makes no sense to trust something that is so counterintuitive.
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shivaji Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:52 PM
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6. I like your post...it is about an actual story in media, not an ostrich
burying his/her head in sand...as other poster wants.
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barackmyworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:52 PM
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7. handwriting analysis is pure shit
it's like phrenology. Why don't you post some astrology too?
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:54 PM
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10. How about another Redskins post?

I don't think the handwriting stuff is accurate, I just found this article and thought people would get a kick out of it, JEEZ.
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bush equals idiot Donating Member (757 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 10:53 PM
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9. Put Bush in a Marine foxhole
with you then and see how tenacious he is. I bet you'll smell feces.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:07 PM
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11. Christ! When will the phrenologists and Jackie Stallone weigh in?
Certainly seems that hucksters like graphologists would be partial to bush
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DemBones DemBones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:27 PM
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12. Jackie Stallone and her poodles called it for Bush* long ago.

And of course I believe her. . . :spank:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:37 PM
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13. Kerry's handwriting reminds me of John Hancock's signature
Remember him? He's the one who really stood up to King George by signing his name in HUGE letters.

I happen to think Kerry's handwriting is beautiful.
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Placebo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:38 PM
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14. Me too.
Very Presidential.
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:43 PM
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15. Up next, a flattering report from the RNC's chief phrenologist

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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:48 PM
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16. Kerry can be stubborn
I've seen articles where other Senators say that when he gets his mind set about a particular thing, he doesn't budge. But that's AFTER he's cautiously done all of the thinking and strategizing.
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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:48 PM
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17. Handwriting? Got any fucking snake oil for sale?
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ThoughtCriminal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:51 PM
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18. Graphology bunk
I think Kurtz's analysis by itself is a pretty strong indictment. But for further reading:

http://www.ntskeptics.org//FACTSHTS/graphol.htm
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LiberteToujours Donating Member (737 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:53 PM
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19. This is bullshit
What a coincidence that her "analysis" fits in exactly with the stereotypes that both these men have. She doesn't even mention other personality traits that haven't already been talked to death.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:53 PM
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20. Then it must be Bullshit because
bush is stupid and mean and Kerry is courageous and Intelligent!
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-31-04 11:55 PM
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21. So what does the fact that * generally writes in crayon prove?
n/t
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JohnKleeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:10 AM
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22. Damnit I wanted to show my handwriting
I got the sloppiest handwriting ever, it means I am crazy and drunk :D.
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humanbeing Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:15 AM
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23. Chimp's scrawlings look like smeared feces, while Kerry's writing...
...looks really good, classical and academic, like from the declaration of independence.
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lady raven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 02:52 AM
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25. Declaration of Independence
I was thinking the same thing- It DOES look like the writing on many of our National Documents!

As far as the analysis goes, it's total bunk. My handwriting was analyzed once and a few things about me were correct and others were not even in the ballpark.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:38 AM
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24. Barnham effect
I studied psychology just enough to know how to cross examine shrink types in my job. They described this kind of tripe as the "Barnham effect". After the circus guy. It's a con job. (I'm not saying all psychology is.) But now more common to fortune tellers and state fairs.

You pay your money to hear people say things about you that you KNOW are true. Like: you are interested in people, people care about you. people don't always understand you...blah blah blah. You can say it to anyone and they will say: "Yes, that's right! You really nailed me."

These kind of subjective pseudo sciences like this type of handwriting analysis falls into that category. The outcome depends more on what that analyst wants the outcome to be.

I bet my analysis of the analyst is more right on target: he's a bush supporter.
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Robeson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:24 AM
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26. Whats next? A reading of tea leaves?
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:27 AM
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27. Lets see, he wasted billions of dollars and 1100 American lives in Iraq
But bin Laden is still making videos and we haven't even secured Iraq yet?

This is three years after 9/11 and a year and a half after the Iraq war.

Sounds like the very model of efficiency to me.
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