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Proud2BAmurkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:45 AM
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Newsweek: Powell says U.S. is losing Iraq war
Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 12:46 AM by Proud2BAmurkin
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/6370591/site/newsweek/

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the truth is, neither party is fully reckoning with the reality of Iraq — which is that the insurgents, by most accounts, are winning. Even Secretary of State Colin Powell, a former general who stays in touch with the Joint Chiefs, has acknowledged this privately to friends in recent weeks, Newsweek has learned. The insurgents have effectively created a reign of terror throughout the country, killing thousands, driving Iraqi elites and technocrats into exile and scaring foreigners out. "Things are getting really bad," a senior Iraqi official in interim Prime Minister Ayad Allawi's government told Newsweek last week. "The initiative is in hands right now.
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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:47 AM
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1. How do we get this shit...
...on the 6 o'clock news?
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:48 AM
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2. or on the AP or Reuters?
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Randi_Listener Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:57 AM
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More people need to see this.
The RightFucks still give listen to Powell and trust him. So, when they hear this news, their fucking heads will pop like pimples.
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npincus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 01:05 AM
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7. LOL
Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 01:05 AM by npincus
yes, Powell was always The Adult in the nursery, wasn't he?
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:50 AM
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3. After the election watch how all the news coverage will get ugly
about this, economy, global warming, deficit you name it. It will be bad news 24/7 like you never heard it before.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:57 AM
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4. Good call, but I think it will wait until 1/21/05
They don't want to sour the reputation of Bush.

--bkl
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Eye and Monkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 01:02 AM
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6. gas and heating oil prices will sky-rocket -
30$ a barrel oil hit the pumps at 2$ a gallon. We'll have an opportunity to FEEL what happens when 55$+ a barrel oil hits the pumps and home-heating oil bills.
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 01:09 AM
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8. Shit yes, they might even go the "shortage" route again this winter
or spring complete with the gas lines to really try and stick it to us for ousting the the chimp.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 01:01 AM
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5. This needs to be on the news to show
that she Bush administration is crumbling from within. They aren't united (Powell's certainly not the only one who thinks this), and we're failing desperately because of this lack of cohesive leadership.
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Demfromct Donating Member (101 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 01:12 AM
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9. News won't report it
Because it is bad news, and when I say that really bad news. Americans will accuse rhe media outlet of being hurting troop morale.

Americans have never considered that we could lose the war. They don't want to hear that the Iraq people would rather not have us there. Toppling the Saddam army was easy, but winning the war politically, much harder. I am young, 27 years old, but from what I have read this is eerily similar to Vietnam. The administration is trying to achive a politial win in Iraq, not a military one. we can defeat any army in the world. That is not the mission of the soldiers in Iraq however.

Actually, What is the soldiers' mission in Iraq right now? God help us. Bush gotta go.
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deadparrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 01:19 AM
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10. I know that, just saying that it NEEDS to be.
This Iraq situation is scaring the shit out of me. It just keeps getting worse. Sounds like a hellhole.
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 01:26 AM
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11. Powell Speaks The Obvious...May He Rot In Hell
I get a feeling there's a lot of angst inside General Colin Blow...seeing his "Powell Doctrine" torn to shreads right in front of his eyes then his credibility played like a token and tool on an international scale. If there's gonna be a MacNamera in this regime, Colin's gonna be the one.

But while MacNamera came to his senses (after milking millions in defense profiteering) he feigned an ignorance Powell can never. Powell knew what he was saying was lies, he knew he was enabling a pre-destined plan of conquest and exploitation and he didn't do the honorable thing and resign (at least MacNamera did) to protest what even he's admitting is a foreign policy disaster. Ehem, you're Secretary of State, dude, and 1,100 deaths are on your watch and hands!

Any student of history will tell you an occupation is difficult even in positive circumstances. An unpopular occupation always leads to a growing and more coordinated resistence...especially if that resistence can get arms, funding and coordinate. That's what's happened here and it's only going to get worse.

When are these military brainstems going to face reality that we're in THEIR country and they're gonna bleed us dry until we've had enough (and it will happen) and we'll leave. Sadly, if Kerry is elected, he's stuck with cleaning up this colosal mess and the mindset that made it possible.

Cheers!
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