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Mon Nov-01-04 01:16 AM
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If Bush loses, I believe he will be |
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at peace with it. Like him or not, that seems to be a character trait, accepting what happens. could be his faith, or learned through trial and error of his life.
In any event, I HOPE HE GETS THE CHANCE to try and be at peace with losing :-)
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:18 AM
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1. He didn't seem to accept the loss in 2000.... |
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But I do hope he accepts it this time.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:36 AM
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19. Because he knew he had Florida "In the bag" in 2000. |
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Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me .....
CAN'T FOOL ME AGAIN!
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:18 AM
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:19 AM
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3. i see him more as a spoiled egotistical brat |
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DONT TELL ME NO!!! kind of thing i don't see him going meekly away without some kind of brauhaha
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:19 AM
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4. Bush has no genuine faith. |
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He's just a dry drunk using God to justify whatever he feels like doing.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:20 AM
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i agree that he will not visible explode on national television. i expect that he will appear calm and gracious in defeat (putting aside a high likelihood of court challenges).
however, i DO expect him to be hell bent on vengeance, one way or another. he will go quietly into the shadows, but he will work hard to screw kerry any way he can, just out of spite and revenge.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:42 AM
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If Bush wasn't able to "screw" Kerry with the power of the Presidency behind him, how is he going to do it after losing all that power?
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:20 AM
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:20 AM
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7. he will go back to texas and get a job on death row |
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:21 AM
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8. Chimpy will walk to the copter a la Tricky Dick. |
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:23 AM
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9. Laura said as much, on a TV interview |
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She said they were at peace with losing.
I suspect losing will be much easier for Bush than for his minions and underlings. They will be the ones that will get hunted down and prosecuted.
Bush will collect that former-President comp check, and get secret service protection for the rest of his life. I think he is a bit sick of all the "hard work" anyway.
Bush only wants to win because he thinks God wants him to win, and he does not want to defy God. But if God told him it was OK to kick back, Bush would be overjoyed. God could speak thru the electoral college, you know. Last time He spoke thru the Supreme Court, but God speaks in many different ways...
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:29 AM
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She will cover for him and make excuses for him and lie for him.
If he does go quietly, I think it will only be because "they" will finally convince him that Iraq is an awful mess, the economy is beyond hope (now that they've looted as much as they could from it), the country is too divided to manage -- and he's better off pushing the whole pile of shit into John Kerry's lap. This will appeal to boosh's sense of cruelty and malice and his long-standing habit of having someone else clean up after him.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:46 AM
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30. Dubya has much experience at losing, being a failure. |
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Mon Nov-01-04 03:18 AM
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"I suspect losing will be much easier for Bush than for his minions and underlings. They will be the ones that will get hunted down and prosecuted."
I don't think there would be any prosecutions. Notice how Bush resisted all such attempts by party hacks to pursue anyone from the Clinton administration? But you're right about the hired help. The neocons and the party hacks are the ones who are scared and they won't go without a fight.
I think both Bush and Kerry are very experienced politicians and will accept the results pretty gracefully. I suspect Laura is like Ma Bush and is probably tired of the hectic and intrusive White House bit after four years of it.
From a family perspective, the White House is a real burden. Everything in a family's life must be subordinated to the White House regime. There's no way that that can't get old very quickly.
In the event of a close race and several states in question, both candidates will be under extreme pressure from their cronies and their parties to go to court and we'll have the Florida 2000 fiasco all over again.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:24 AM
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10. it ain't Shrub I'm worried about, its ROVE |
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now that ain't gonna be a pretty sight.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:39 AM
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24. Think Darth Vader, breathing heavy in Tie Fighter, spinning out of control |
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:24 AM
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...I half expect him to have to be forcibly escorted out by the military ...he will not go voluntarily
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:25 AM
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12. I think just the opposite... |
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I don't think he'll concede. Reality is not the sort of thing that factors into his thinking.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:26 AM
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13. It's not a question of if . . .just when |
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:27 AM
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Bush is no Christian, and how a Democrat could believe such a thing, after what he has done in office boggles the mind.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:28 AM
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I honestly don't think he will want to litigate his way into the White House twice.
If it's a clear win for Kerry, he will do the right thing and concede.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:33 AM
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he's a lot of things, but "gracious" is not one of them
i predict he will be sloshed by midnight and drugged by the morning.
by next march he'll be checking in to rehab
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:36 AM
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20. I hope you are right, but when President Kerry |
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signs on to the International Criminal Court, b*sh will be one of the 1st 10 indicted in the US (after Kissinger, North...). His concession will mean possible prison terms for himself, and those around him. Plus, Daddies records will be unsealed......
Do you really believe he will go quietly into the night?
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:41 AM
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They only have jurisdiction over crimes that took place afer 2002, so the Reagan/Poppy clan gets off scot free.
Concievably bush could feel their rath, but no way the Rome Treaty gets ratified even if Kerry signs it, it would be DOA.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:45 AM
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28. DAMN, that just sucks. |
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I soooo want to see Kissinger get some of the dues owed to him in this life (but, if there is a hell, he will have a special place in it)
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:31 AM
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seriously, maybe he will be secretly relieved
buti i don't want him to be at peace. i want him to look in the mirror and say "i am just like my dad, a one term loser who fucked up the country for four years, and history will remember me as a failure."
and indictments would be nice but i actually think kerry could make real hay by announcing a prospective pardon for shrub as he makes his acceptance speech. just to rub in what a criminal regime he will be replacing.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:37 AM
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22. What I think would :"hurt" boosh more than being indicted himself |
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would be to see everyone associated with him going down -- Rove, Cheney, Ashcroft, Rumsfeld, Rice, jebbie, all of them -- and not being able to do a thing about it. Oh, I'm sure he'd try to issue pardons against future charges for them, but I think there'd be ways around that. Let him see James Baker brought up on trading with the enemy, Cheney on treason, and so on.
Then again, he's such a POS, he probably wouldn't care.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:46 AM
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29. I think he would be most hurt if "history" started judging him harshly |
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In the debates and in interviews he has repeatedly said, "in 50 or 100 years, history will judge this or that"...as if we needed a century to truly appreciate his greatness.
I think it would crush him if historians began saying he was the worst president ever, shortly after he is deposed. If they began talking of the horrific tragic four year train wreck that was the presidency of George W. Bush, he would be very dejected.
And if they talked of how much better a president his father was than him, so much so that it is hard to believe they are even related, that kind of thing, I think that would penetrate his smug, smirking apathy and actually cause him to feel distress.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:52 AM
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33. Yes, a comparison to his father would enrage him |
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I firmly believe boosh has massive unresolved "issues" with his father. I caught part of the C-SPAN program with Justin Frank and the other guy (boosh apologist) and I wanted to ring the other guy's neck. Idiot, complete idiot.
That aside, I think boosh is seriously conflicted in his relationship with his father, and if he does indeed fail to achieve a second term, all the rest of his efforts will have been in vain. He has fucked up the economy, the environment, the mood of the country, everything, and if he can't out-do his daddy by getting that second term, lil george will be seen as a failure, in his own eyes.
the most hurtful wouds that can be said to him are, "Like father, like son. . . . . ."
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:44 AM
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27. One of the biggest tragedies of Bush is... |
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...it's dragged his father down tremendously. Now, i don't think his father was a great president by any means, but he was adequate, knew how to run the show, and did the right thing when it came down to it. He knew how to handle Iraq. If Abu Ghraib had happened under Bush the Elder, Cheney would have had his ass canned and Bush the Elder would have declared, "The buck stops here." Without a doubt.
Bush the Elder was a war hero, a part of the Greatest Generation, and while i don't agree with his politics, i considered him a patriot. I just don't like how he raised his kids. It's unfortunate that that will reflect negatively on him in the history books.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:37 AM
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21. i thought long ago he was the least concerned in his admin... |
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As early as June i thought that everybody in his admin, bar Powell, cared more about his re-election than Bush himself did. I truly believe that, during his whole career in politics, he's cared very little about the job. It's more about pleasing friends and winning. But this time around, after 4 hellish years, he didn't care too much about winning anymore. "It's hard work," and that's not appealing. He's doing the bare-minimum to please his friends. If he really wanted re-election, he would have prepared more for that first debate. He would have had it nailed.
He didn't give a shit. "Just strap the thingie to my back. I'll be OK." Doing as little as possible to get by. What a philosophy.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:38 AM
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23. I believe he will be run from the White House and lucky if he doesn't |
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end up in the Hague.
we cannot let this POS fade away. warm up the ICC, ready the indictments.
no pardons for this group of murdering scumbag motherfuckers. none.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:47 AM
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31. I'm certain poppy's got a |
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director's chair all warmed up 4 his ADD son - which BofD though? Should B interesting 2 C what poppy has lined up.
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Mon Nov-01-04 01:51 AM
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The guy is plagued with demons. The peaceful Christian crap is another of his huge lies. He will have failed AGAIN - in a life chock full of failures. He's never been able to prove himself to his parents or to himself. He will have an empty and tortured post-Presidential life and I don't feel the least bit sorry for him.
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Mon Nov-01-04 03:27 AM
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35. I think he'll be relieved |
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It's seemed to me that for a long time now, Bush hasn't been very happy being president. He doesn't relish the job like others have and aside from his narcissistic traits, I don't think it suits him at all as a person.
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Mon Nov-01-04 03:39 AM
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I hope he ends up worse than Nixon.
Isolated
Bitter
Drunken
Spurned
Rejected
Dejected
Depressed
Besotten
Guilt ridden
Diseased
Frail
Drooling
Mumbling
Peace my ass. He deserves no peace after what he did to the whole fucking world.
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