Invasion of Fallujah appears imminent, could the Repugs use this to

[Ruffhowse]

affect the election?

[katusha]

1. it's too late to affect election

even if they started this very moment the chances of a successful outcome of operations BEFORE voting polls closes is very slim, these kinds of ops take time. so the public will just see fighting and here casualties reports without indications of victory before they go vote, and that just raises the issue of iraq at a time when bush wants to duck it. i think they will wait till wed. to begin the push if at all.

[Cooley Hurd]

3. However, if there's a battle raging DURING the vote...

...the repigs could use that to say, "Would you have pulled FDR off the job during the invasion of Normandy?" :crazy:

[RafterMan]

5. I don't see that argument carrying any weight

with anybody.

I think the lines are drawn. GOTV is the only argument left, and I don't see an offensive in Fallujah bringing more Republicans to the polls.

[katusha]

6. true.

don't know if this argument will sway enough voters though. unsure.

[ThePhilosopher04]

7. I DARE THEM to compare an attack on Fallujah with D-Day!!!...

talk about losing credibility with the American people! D-Day was a monumental attempt to save the free world from Nazi aggression while a battle for Fallujah is an attempt to put lipstick on a bungled war we have no business fighting in the first place.

[progdonkey]

12. no election....

There was no election occuring in June of 1944. The invasion of Normandy was our joining our European allies to repel the Germans, who had declared war on us.

I don't think any two invasions could be more different.

[jfk2004]

13. **INDEPENDENTS** WILL THINK BATTLE IS GOING ON IN FALLUJAH

Everytime terror threat, or battle topics comes up the chimp benefits. We know that by now. The bastards have timed Falluhah invasion to coincide exactly with the elections. It is clear the current army generals are mostly republican. There is a bush-army-religion nexus in this administration that's just dangerous. Not unlike fascist thugs of the past.

[cynatnite]

16. The civilian leadership won't have a problem

with putting lives on the line for this election, but I honestly don't believe the military leadership will.

It was the civilian leadership that put us in Iraq to begin with based on a lie. Looking at how this war in Iraq is being waged, I don't honestly believe there is a such a thing as winning it. Period.

I just hope Kerry does what he says and works to get our troops out of there. Enough have died already.

[David Dunham]

2. They would not do that, would they? You bet.

[meow mix]

4. theyll do anything.

gotta be some good desperation going now

[Captain Lance Bass]

8. 9 soldiers KIA this weekend

Bless their souls......


I don't think taking Fallujah and losing 20 more would be good PR for Tuesday. JMHO

[Hoosierdaddee]

11. Fallujah - what's left?

After months and months of "surgical" air strikes and relentless artillary shelling what's left to invade?

Fallujah is turning into the Iraqi version of Vietnam's Hua City. Here's a brief description of the Battle for Hua:

source:http://www.cc.gatech.edu/fac/Thomas.Pilsch/AirOps/hue-battle.html

In February 1966, at a strategy meeting in Honolulu, President Lyndon Johnson asked his commander in Vietnam, Gen. William Westmoreland, what his next step might be if he were the enemy commander.

"Capture Hué," General Westmoreland answered without hesitation, explaining the city was the symbol of a unified Vietnam. "Taking it would have profound psychological impact on the Vietnamese in both the North and the South, and in the process the North Vietnamese might seize the two northern provinces as bargaining points in any negotiations."

Two years later -- almost to the day -- the enemy overwhelmed Hué and held much of it for nearly a month. The only combat troops to resist the initial assault were a depleted South Vietnamese company. The nearest U.S. troops were seven miles away.

Their strategic objective, however, was to "liberate" the entire city as part of a country-wide popular uprising to sweep the Communist insurgents into power.

That never happened. The people of Hué turned their backs on the Communists as did people in other parts of Vietnam during the Tet offensive, and the ensuing 26-day effort by the U.S. Marines, U.S. Army and ARVN to recapture the Citadel produced a stunning military defeat for the invaders. Yet the strategic victory ultimately went to the Communists. The scenes of bloody fighting in Hué, Saigon and other cities in Vietnam during the Tet offensive so shocked the American people that the pressure to withdraw from the war became overwhelming. The stage was set for the ultimate Communist victory in 1975.


The similarities are eerie!

[Kerry212]

9. you know it!!

chimp and the repukes are going to throw everything including the kitchen trash compactor.

dear chimp,
start packing your louis vuitton suitcase because you've been evicted!!!!

love,
kerry212 ;=)

[DELUSIONAL]

10. this will only harden the vote

The poll numbers I've seen for support of the Iraq war show that bushie's numbers are dropping.

Those of us who have opposed the war since BEFORE the war -- it won't change our vote -- and some of the undecideds will probably swing to Kerry -- especially if they are of draft age.

Also the news is so censored that we won't really know what is happening unless one of the independent news outlets has reporters on the scene -- but the US has been knocking off reporters -- so who knows.

Whatever happens I doubt that we can believe much of what we hear -- but the whore corporate media may try to spin this.

I agree with other posters that this seems to be a desperation move -- purely political -- without regards to the civilians or the US UK troops.

The idiots who are going to vote for bushie -- won't change their vote -- I believe that around 35% will remained rock solid for the giggling chimp -- no matter what he does.

[chimp chump]

14. .

No way an invasion of Fallujah helps Bush. It's another reminder of his failed policy and how nothing in Iraq is settled, no matter what he promised us about how the Iraqis would greet us gratefully.

I suspect that the Iraqi military isn't strong enough yet to do it without us. So no invasion until after the election at least.

[Confident]

15. Bigger question about Iraq...

what does Kerry do once he's in office - he has to get our troops out of this wrong war immediately, I think

[sofa king]

18. Win the peace, then get out.

http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/national_security/iraq.html

[jfk2004]

19. Iran

>>18. Win the peace, then get out.
Well it's going to be hard to win the peace until you invade Iran and create a US controlled Afghan-Iran-Iraq belt and stop the arming of Insurgents from the Iran border, which is what's going on now.

[bklyncowgirl]

17. Look at the Bush administrations record of honor valor and competence.

Would they risk the lives of our troops and thousands of innocent civilians to swing the election?

In a heartbeat, my friend, in a heartbeat.

[Eurobabe]

20. why?