FOX & FRIENDS pos's are claiming the translation from the OBL tape left

[jezebel]

out that any "state" that votes for Kerry is fine, but the "states" that vote for Bush will incur harm.

They are so full of shit, they are trying to stir up people.

[theHandpuppet]

1. What they omitted was Osama's address to Bush...

I believe it was something to the effect of, "Can you hear me now? Can you hear me now"?

[RafterMan]

2. I'm not sure what conclusion people are supposed to draw

As with the tape itself, it seems to just reinforce entrenched positions.

I'd really, really, really, really like to know if it was actually on the tape, though.

[jezebel]

3. I found it on the freepers site. It's from the NY Post. They are lying

about the quote. They had some Middle East group say the tape said "Your security is up to you, and any state that does not toy with our security automatically guarantees its own security." No mention of Bush or Kerry there, they are totally reaching.

[jeanmarc]

4. They are actually literally interpreting 'state' as one of the 50 states?

I thought the wacked out OBL was talking nations, you know those sort of states.

[BlueEyedSon]

10. Pretty sure that "state" = "nation"

Your security is not in the hands of Kerry or Bush or al-Qaida. Your security is in your own hands and each state which does not harm our security will remain safe.

Draw your own conclusions. Here's the rest:

http://www.worldpress.org/Americas/1964.cfm

[papau]

11. I posted some info in DU media re this - repeated below:

MEMRI (Middle East Media Research Institute)lies again in NY Post for Bush


Remember the Guardian’s Brian Whitaker taking MEMRI’s president to task for mistranslating a question that included an implied criticism of Israel. The question was "How do you deal with the Jews who are besieging al-Aqsa and are scattered around it?" But MEMRI translated this as: "How do you feel about the Jews?"

sigh... They are at it again....

http://www.nypost.com/news/nationalnews/33124.htm

Monster's Deadly Warning to 'Red' States
by Niles Lathem

November 1, 2004 -- WASHINGTON - Osama bin Laden warned in his October Surprise video that he will be closely monitoring the state-by-state election returns in tomorrow's presidential race — and will spare any state that votes against President Bush from being attacked, according to a new analysis of his statement. <snip>

The statement in question is when bin Laden said on the tape: "Your security is up to you, and any state that does not toy with our security automatically guarantees its own security." <snip>

For those who have forgotten the right wing nature of this beast and its "Hudson Institute" connections:

The two founders, Meyrav Wurmser and Yigal Carmon, are right-wing Zionists. Carmon is the longtime president, while Wurmer left her position as executive director at MEMRI in early 2002 to direct the Center of Middle East Studies at the Hudson Institute. (2) Steven Stalinsky has been MEMRI’s executive director since Wurmser’s departure. Oliver Revell serves without compensation as a member of MEMRI’s board of directors, together with Carmon and Stalinsky

Carmon is a reserve colonel in the Israeli Defense Forces, having served in the IDF/Intelligence Branch from 1968 to 1988. In that capacity, Carmon, who was born in Romania, was Acting Head of the Civil Administration in the West Bank from 1977 to 1982. He served as counterterrorism adviser to premiers Shamir and Menachem Begin from 1988 to 1993. In 1991 and 1992 Carmon was a senior member of the Israeli Delegation to peace negotiations with Syria in Madrid and Washington. (4)

Wurmser, an Israeli-born analyst of Middle East affairs, received her Ph.D. from George Washington University in Washington, D.C. where she wrote on Jabotinsky and the Revisionist Movement. According to Arab Media Watch, Jabotinsky “brokered the marriage between Zionism and fascism.” Wurmser, who has taught at Johns Hopkins University and the United States Naval Academy, and her husband David Wurmser are central figures in the right-wing’s web of Middle East policy institutes. According to the Hudson Institute, “Through her work at MEMRI helped to educate policymakers about the Palestinian Authority two-track approach to 'negotiating peace' with Israel: calling for peace in the English press and with western policymakers while inciting hatred and violence through official Arab language media." Before joining the Bush II administration as a State Department policy adviser under John Bolton, her husband David Wurmser was an AEI scholar and associate of the Middle East Forum (MEF).

sigh......

:-)

[ClassWarrior]

12. Yeah... STATE = NATION.

Get a dictionary, Freeps!!

24.

[GoBlue]

5. Anyone know the Arabic definition of state?

I sincerely doubt it is the same as the usual American version.

Welcome to the Ship of Fools, Fox and Friends. Methinks you are sinking fast. Splat.

[marew]

6. Fox is worse than ever this AM

Turned on Fox briefly this morning. They seem even more angry and hostile. Nasty Kerry comments. Actually repeated that state nonsense. One person even said that state usually refers to country but they got away from that quickly. Hopefully it's desperation on their part. A New York Post reporter was on speculating that Giuliani might be in Bushies new cabinet. Powell, Condi, and Ashcroft may go. Went to Tampa Kerry Rally last night. It was GREAT. Kerry has more concern for our country in his fingernail clippings that criminal Bush has in his whole ugly body. Of course there were some idiot Bushies outside making fools of themselves and screaming when people were coming and going. Volunteered to be a poll watcher here in Pinellas County (St. Pete-Clearwater) tomorrow. They'll call today if they need me. We can't handle four more years of that freak Bush and the rest of his thugs.

[jezebel]

8. Now they have one of their CIA pundits on claiming OBL is frightened of *

because Bush knows the "art of war" and if Kerry get's elected OBL will be happy because he can go back to business as usual.

I hate them, I really do.

[melody]

7. Only the foxhounds would think Arabic "state" = US "state"

What ignorant putzes.

[truthisfreedom]

9. let them speak. what this implies is that bush didn't capture his arch-

enemy! that's about all for bush.

[w4rma]

13. That one might hurt Repugs. I think Repug crazies would LIKE to see Osama

blow up a whole bunch more Democrats like he did on 911. Just like Repug crazies LOVED to see Osama (and every other two-bit terrorist) on our TVs spreading their terrorist messages with America's full attention.

I think they think another big bombing in a blue state would turn states into Repukes states. I think that's partially why they could really care less about capturing or killing Osama and went after Saddam, instead.

Repugs just aren't concerned about Osama terroism because they know that out in rural areas their chances of being blown to smithereens is slim to none, while Democrats, whose strongholds are often large population centers are alot more likely to be targets and in the Repuke quest for more power, they are more than happy to let Democrats be targets.