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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:43 AM
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How many Republicans should Kerry appoint?
Let's face it -- this is a badly divided nation.

President Kerry will have to do something to reach out to the other side to try to unite the country again. Otherwise it is going to be four years of open warfare with a hostile Congress. One way to reach out is to appoint some folks from the other side to jobs in your administration.

Clinton did it when he made Bill Cohen secretary of defense. Bush kept Clinton appointees Norm Mineta and George Tenet (bad choices) but never appointed a Democrat to his cabinet.

But there are moderate Republicans out there who would do a good job in certain positions. Do you think it's a good idea? And, if so, who would you suggest?
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benburch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:45 AM
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1. ZERO
Take no prisoners. Only the utter destruction of the GOP will do.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:46 AM
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7. They can't be destroyed
Republicans are like fire ants.
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BlueEyedSon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:54 AM
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26. Yup, the big GOOSE EGG
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:45 AM
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2. lots of Republican senators from states with Democratic governors....
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:46 AM
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hehehehe, good point.
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flowomo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:47 AM
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10. Rick Santorum for head of the Office of Dog Protection....
you know... to keep an eye on the "man-on-dog" thing.... then Rendell can apppoint himself to the seat.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:53 AM
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23. Rick Santorum for Ambassador to Hell.
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Nicholas D Wolfwood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:45 AM
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3. My heart says zero. My mind says one or two.
They didn't give a shit about uniting the country, and part of me says we should rule with the same vengence. However, that wouldn't be very good for the country, nor would it be pragmatic, looking at the results of what they did (their ouster in 4 years' time.)
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faithfulcitizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:45 AM
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4. none, nada!!! nt
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:45 AM
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5. A true moderate, perhaps
but keep it at a minimum. It will be seen as a good will gesture.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:48 AM
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16. Should we risk pulling some from the House? Do those seats go up for a
special election in that case, or what?
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nookiemonster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:56 AM
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27. Don't know
but it would make for an interesting scenario, wouldn't it?

I hate to be negative, but I can't see us taking the House. The Senate maybe. x(
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:59 AM
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30. I wonder, if seats go up for reelection, could we find a moderate repub
that would likely be repleaced by a dem?
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:09 PM
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57. Jeffords, Collins
we can help the Dems in the Senate by removing a couple of repukes with an offer they cant refuse
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:11 PM
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60. I would be THRILLED to see the back of Collins, and I think that
our governor would put someone decent in her place. Maybe not progressive, but still left of Susan.

But, I dunno that I want her to be heading up anything either. Where on earth can we put her so that she doesn't do any damage?
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:23 PM
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66. Agreed! Jeffords should be rewarded for standing for his principles
against the hate-filled attacks of the Rove adminsitration.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:02 AM
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33. House seats that become vacant
Are filled by special elections. Senate seats are usually filled by appointment by the governor until the next scheduled election. So appointing a Republican senator from a state with a Democratic governor would likely mean the pickup of a Senate seat.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:36 AM
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44. I wonder if Kerry can work this to his advantage?
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:46 AM
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6. None. Zero. Zip. Nada.
Fuck 'em.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:46 AM
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8. None. Lock them out. Period.
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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:47 AM
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9. How many Democrats did * appoint? n/t
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:49 AM
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17. He kept Mineta and Tenet
But didn't appoint any new Democrats.

Bush failed miserably to be a uniter and he is about to lose. He thought all he needed was his base and he could say "Fuck off" to the rest of the country and look where it has gotten him.
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in_cog_ni_to Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:47 AM
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11. NONE! Zero. Zip. Nada! n/t
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:47 AM
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12. Is the White House barber an appointive position?
Other than that, I think maybe White House exterminator would be suitable for DeLay, but only if he has to wear an embarassing lavender coverall uniform, with a funny floppy hat.
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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:51 AM
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21. Keep'em away from sharp objects after 11/2! Roundy ended sissors? LOL n/t
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:48 AM
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13. Just Lieberman. ;-) n/t
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:07 PM
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56. Not Lieberman -- only moderate Republicans
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omnithrope Donating Member (260 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:48 AM
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14. Uh, he's not President YET.
Question = moot.
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:09 AM
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36. You don't know what "moot" means?
Do you?
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:48 AM
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15. None. Zip. Zero. Zilch.
Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 10:49 AM by bowens43
fuck'em. It's a lousy idea. The only way to repair the damage done by these idiot's is to keep them as far away from the process as possible.

Divided? You bet. It was compromises during the Clinton administration that got us we are today. No compromises. When they see things our way we will welcome them.
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Love Bug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:49 AM
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18. NONE. They had their chance and look at the mess we have.
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Maiden England Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:51 AM
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19. I honestly think it would be wise idea to appoint a moderate.
Give the moderate repugs a voice, and try and encourage power away from the neocons, who just need to be obliterated, full stop.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:51 AM
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20. How about just a couple conservative dems
I just don't trust the republican party at all. After this loss, maybe some moderate in their party will assert themselves against the radicals, then we can work with them.
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German-Lefty Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:51 AM
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22. Only as many as endorsed Kerry.
Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 11:09 AM by German-Lefty
If some republican says "I think Bush is doing a terrible job. I could do a better job, but they never listen to me.", let him endorse Bush and let Kerry promise him a cabinet level position. All this should have happened months ago, but it might still help.

Otherwise just like Bush, don't take any people in cabinet level positions. Besides most of the people Bush put there are worthless anyway. Even Powell in my opinion is now worthless.

If he would have resigned in protest and endorsed Kerry, I would definitely have made him secretary of defense.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:54 AM
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25. What about a senator like
Lincoln Chafee or Olympia Snowe?

That would also open a Senate seat to a possible Democratic replacement.
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German-Lefty Donating Member (568 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:18 AM
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43. Interesting strategy
Yeah, maybe if it would open up a senate seat.

My point is just that moderate non-neocon Republicans should have been given a chance to endorse Kerry or at least be critical of Bush. For the most part they haven't done so. Who needs fair weather friends?

It's been rumored that Kerry was going to offer McCain the Vice Presidency. I'm sure he's been gracious to others too. If any of them have been gracious back, well sure reward them.

If they cared more about staying in office and Bush's favor, screw up they deserve too burn. When Bush screws up it reflects on them.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:13 PM
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61. Definitely Chaffe or Snowe or both -- they are more reasonable on some
issues that many right-wing Democrats-in-name-only. Reward moderate Republicans with a chance to help fix what the Republicans broke under Shrub. Let the NeoCons take the Republican as far-right as they want while we build a new and lasting coalition of the reality-based.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:54 AM
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At least one...
Is there a need for "dog catcher" on the Federal level?

"President Kerry appoints Republican Elmo Mazie as new U.S. Government Dog Catcher"

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T Wolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:54 AM
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24. Not a goddamn one!
Knowing the way that Dems do things, he probably will appoint a couple. And he will make plenty of statements about "putting division behind us" and other similar bullshit. We always weaken and that kills us. Goodwill gestures are always taken as weakness and just give the enemy more reason to fight harder.

But, all the pukes will do is sabotage any efforts to correct the wrongs done the past four years and giving them any access or power to do so will be suicidal.

Although, appointing repuke Senators from states with Democratic governors to meaningless ambassadorships would be a good strategy.

I agree that they are hard to kill, but the pukes should be purged from having any influence as much as possible.
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Rambis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:57 AM
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28. Some people say 0
It has been said that some of the republicans have been afraid to voice their opposition to their party for fear of being excommunicated from the party. All those that didn't speak out have no place in a Democracy! They didn't vote their principals or their conscious. Screw em!
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:58 AM
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29. The appointment of Bill Cohen to Clinton's cabinet
really made an impact on those repugs, didn't it? I think it kept them from letting that impeachment thingie gather steam. NOT!

Kick 'em all to the curb.

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dolstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 10:59 AM
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31. I think he'll appoint two to his cabinet
I'm pretty confident that one of the foreign policy/defense/national security positions will go to a Republican. I also think there's a good shot that Kerry will appoint someone like Warren Rudman to OMB, or perhaps he'll appoint a liberal Republican (several prominent Republican environmentalists are backing Kerry) to run EPA.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:16 PM
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64. I'd be surprised if Rudman didn't get offered a spot.
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Walt Starr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:00 AM
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32. Not a single one!
NEVER!!!!
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bill Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:03 AM
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34. Tom Ridge for federal dog catcher n/t
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bill Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:04 AM
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35. deleted
Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 11:05 AM by bill
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yellowcanine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:10 AM
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37. McCain for Defense - not because he is Repub but because it is time we
Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 11:12 AM by yellowcanine
had a Defense Secretary who knows the sound of whistling bullets with your name on them. My feeling is that he would not be so quick to send young people into battle as Rumsfucker has been.
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dogtag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:37 AM
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45. There are several other repug veterans, like Hagel
who haven't whored themselves for Shrub to the extent that McCain has played the part of Shrub's poodle.

McCain could have personally shut down the Swift Liars if he had taken a 'real' stand, not the namby pamby few words he deigned to utter.

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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:20 PM
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65. Hagel has been another moderate Republican -- Kerry should
reward that (why wouldn't he be a decent guy to run fatherland -- I mean homeland -- security where he could maybe change the name to make it a little less Nazi-sounding). Draft the moderates into the Kerry administration and leave the Republicans as the voice of the crazy right-wing nutfucks.
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sampsonblk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:11 AM
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38. NONE
Its time for them to do some compromising. For four years, they have ruled this country as though the Dems don't exist. They will still have the senate and the house probably. Let them meet us halfway.
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Angrillori Donating Member (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:59 AM
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52. Huzzah! They haven't extended an olive branch of ANY kind for
four years, and have ignored any sense of compromomise.

It's time they learn.

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bacchant Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:11 AM
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39. A dem only cabinet will try to represent issues and people of all stripes
Repukes are genetically programmed to rape and pillage. NO REPUBLICANS PLEASE.
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WyLoochka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:12 AM
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40. None
We voted for Democrats in order to get an admin staffed with Repubs? No way. I think it's makes sense to staff a a duly elected Democratic admin with Democrats.

Let's be vigilant though. We'll need to raise a ruckus of protest if any PNAC dems like Will Marshall get anywhere near an official position in this Kerry admin.

btw, there is only one real moderate Repub - Lincoln Chafee.
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BootinUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:13 AM
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41. Couple Conservative Dems
No Republicans. Don't trust them at all. After their party restructures then maybe. Right now they are the party of lying and corruption to the 10th power.
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Flammable Materials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:15 AM
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42. They will need to be de-Ba'athified first. n/t
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sidwill Donating Member (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:39 AM
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46. Good question.
How many republicans should Kerry appoint?

Kerry should use the appointment of moderate republicans as a wedge to further divide the the Evangelicals from the traditional repugs.

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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:31 PM
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69. I fully agree, and I think Kerry misses a real opportunity if he does not
use his appointment power to further isolate the creepy NeoCons and faith-based loonies from the moderate elements who are already unconfortable with the right-wing bastards who have hi-jacked the Republican party.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:39 AM
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47. None!!!!!
He should treat them like they treated us! Let them see the other side of the coin on the "Golden Rule" thing! Do the same shit unto them, that they have done unto us! They can't take a tenth of the shit we have had to take! I pray that we win back the Senate and the House!
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Progressive420 Donating Member (213 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:42 AM
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48. John Warner as SOD
just because if he would except Mark Warner the governor of VA could appoint a Democrat to Warners senate seat.
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Moonbeam_Starlight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:50 AM
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49. Good God, NONE!!!!!
How many times does this have to be repeated? How many Dems did bush appoint to his administration?

Why in the world WOULD Kerry appoint members of a screw you party that has done more to destroy this country than anything I can think of.

Geez. None, not a single one. They need to do some serious work on straightening up their act and their party before anything like that should even be CONSIDERED.

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shadu Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:56 AM
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50. Not a damn one.
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ShaneGR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 11:57 AM
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51. McCain
Secretary of Defense... he's a good choice not only because of his experience with foreign policy and the military, but that would open up a Senate seat for the taking in Arizona.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:05 PM
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55. McCain would likely decline and still Kerry would nevertheless get credit
for seeking to heal the partisan divide.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:04 PM
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53. Only if it's the only way to get a Senate majority (states with Dem govs)
And even then, definitely no neocon Bush ass kissers.
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Czolgosz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:04 PM
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54. It depends on how close the Senate and House are. I would like to see
some moderate Republicans from Democratic-leaning states offered appointments in the Kerry administration. If they join the administration, we have achieved the uniting bi-partisanship that Shrub never delivered plus we open another position for a Democrat in the Senate or House. If they decline, we still get credit for reaching across the partisan divide and trying to heal the Shrub's hateful division of our country into two Americas.
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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:09 PM
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58. Asscroft in charge of cleaning the sewers in DC
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sangh0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:10 PM
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59. Of course he should
Pay no attention to the DU reactionaries
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funkybutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:13 PM
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62. 0
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:14 PM
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63. I think President Kerry should make a strong effort to unify the country
and marginalize the Reich wing fundamentalists in the republican party. That effort probably should include appointing a republican or two, but he should not appoint a republican to either Defense or Homeland Security. Doing so would only help the GOP perpetuate the myth that democrats are weak on defense and national security. Ideally Kerry would appoint one or two republican Senators from states with democratic Governors.
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skip fox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:29 PM
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67. Heck, Kerry should be generous. Appoint them ALL
to posts above the Arctic Circle.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:29 PM
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68. None, Unless We Take The House Or Senate
I am not willing to let them have any more opps to do more damage. And I also feel, that after the thuggish way they operated in congress towards the dems they should stew in their own juices. Let them clean up their party first, then we'll talk about sharing. And by cleaning up I mean the Frists, Hasterts, Delays, Goss, Neo-Cons of their party have all got to go.

In an ideal world it would be lovely if we could get along and share for the good of the country but unless they do a version of "Repub Rehab" I don't see how it will work.
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:32 PM
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70. None
I was going to say Kerry should appoint a few sane moderates in the interest of national unity, but the insane right will hate those moderates just as much as they hate anyone who is not them. So fuck 'em.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 12:32 PM
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71. One
A Republican from a state with a Democratic governor. Maybe put Santorum at Transportation Secretary. That's at the bottom of the pack - where Bush put his Dem pick.

MzPip
:dem:
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