Michigen poll= * 43%, Kerry 41%, Nader 12%

[cynatnite]

I normally pay little attention to these things, but the Nader number shocks the hell out of me. What the hell is up with that?

This was on MSNBC a few minutes ago. No link.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

1. ignore it (nt)

[deadparrot]

2. Nader's not getting 12% anywhere.

Even within his own family.

[BayStateBoy]

22. Exactly. L.O.L. Whose Running These Polls? OBL?

[pabloseb]

3. Utter nonsense

I would be surprised if Nader got more than 1% in ANY state.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. he polls very well in the state of denial...

[dennis4868]

4. That's impossible.....

not even 12% of Nader's family members are voting for him...this makes no sense....I have no clue who conducted that poll but I assure you that it is not accurate....I thought Kerry had a "safe" lead in Michigan like a week ago. Any other Michigan polls out there (that are credible)?

[ClintonTyree]

6. Complete Bullshit................

don't give this one a second thought.

[dansolo]

7. Are there BBV machines in Michigan?

If they are going to tamper with the elections, this is the obvious way to do it--shift Kerry votes to Nader.

[qazplm]

8. see there is your problem...

it's a poll of MichiGEN, not MichiGAN.

Michigan is the state.

Michigen is a place in a dream land far far away where Ralph Nader is actually relevant. ;)

[cynatnite]

24. Well that makes more sense. Nader would poll there better n/t

[Canuckelhead]

9. Mistype

Someone probobly typed it in wrong.

[venus]

10. Nader voters are jerks. Pure and simple. nt/

[BeatleBoot]

11. Kerry's Up By 7

Zogby

[cubsfan forever]

15. Thank you for restoring sanity to this thread! n/t

Professor 2

[Triana]

12. NADER 12%? I DON'T *THINK* SO...

...what a crock of bu$hit.

[doni_georgia]

13. Nader's numbers show this poll is worthless

[Pathwalker]

14. Absolute. Utter. Bullshit.

Kerry's taking Michigan. By the way, there is no "e" in Michigan.

[GreenPartyVoter]

16. It's possible that people who are voting for Kerry are naming Nader in the

polls. I've done that before. I'm voting for K/E tomorrow, but in polls I state Green or Nader because that is who is _really_ want to vote for.

[WI_DEM]

17. are you sure 12% isn't undecided/third party candidates?

If it is undecided it will break for Kerry

[thoughtanarchist]

Kerry 52% * 45%

www.electoral-vote.com/states/michigan.html

[kentuck]

18. 10-11% of Nader vote will go to Kerry..

Count on it!

[DemNoir]

19. Ahhh

Another opportunity to update my ignore list.

What are the idiots going to post when there are no more polls?

[cynatnite]

43. This is the only poll I've posted.

I thought I was seeing things which was why I posted it. As most everyone here said, it's bullshit.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

20. That HAS to be wrong

Nader isn't polling 12% ANYWHERE. Not even close to that! ROFL!

[Francine Frensky]

21. According to USA Today, of 1437 voters called, only 3 chose Nader

Front page of USA today.

[1gobluedem]

23. MSNBC Poll

MSNBC poll for Michigan that came out this morning had Kerry at 47% Bush at 45%, Nader at less than 1% and 8% still undecided. That 12% had to be a typo.

[sonicx]

25. no offense, byumaybe you have bad eyesight and saw the numbers wrong?

[deadmessengers]

26. Someone is smoking really good crack n/t

[DefenseLawyer]

27. Nader's not polling at 12% with his own staff.

[5thGenDemocrat]

28. Shoot -- the only way Nader would poll 12 percent in Michigan

Was if the question was "Should we tar-and-feather Ralph Nader?". This is the state that built the Corvair. We lost a LOT of jobs because of "Unsafe at any Speed," and we haven't forgotten it. Nader appeals only to goo-goos and whippy-dips here. He might get one percent of the vote -- if that.
View from the ground here in Michigan? We're up by six to eight points and gaining.
John
Nader? Twelve percent? Sheeeeeee...

[GOPBasher]

29. I totally believe that. In other news, pigs are flying all over.

[NDFan]

30. Here

Take 11 percent from Nader's number and add it to Kerry's. Nader 1 percent, Bush 43 percent, and Kerry 52 percent. Perfect! ;)

[Norbert]

31. NBC used a lot of Mason-Dixon polling yesterday

I ignore them now.

[rjbny62]

32. MSNBC has obviously lost it

[Jacobin]

33. yeah, riiiiiight

Nader may get one percent. That's it. MSNBC is garbage

[ScreamingMeemie]

34. I have yet to talk to a Nader voter in a month's worth of canvassing.

PassingFair has talked to one...and she changed his vote to Kerry. He even took a lawn sign. :hi:

[montana500]

35. HAHAHHAHAHAHHA 12% for NAder in MI???? HAHAHA

hilarious!!!

[robsul82]

36. Geez.

I'm not even sure Nader would vote for HIMSELF 12% of the time. Crazy jerk.

Later.

RJS

[Demfromct]

37. LOL

This is one of those polls that people were messin around with. Nader 12 percent, LOL. You can gie those 11 points to Kerry. Bet on it. These poeople were polled out.

[kwolf68]

38. 12% LMAO

Come on MSRNC, you can do better than this.

[loudsue]

39. MANY MANY disgruntled repugs are voting for Nader this time.....

They can't bring themselves to vote for Kerry, but they can kill 2 birds with one stone if they vote for Nader:

1) Take a vote away from Kerry

2) Make Democrats even madder at Nader than they already are.

That's why the republicans have been funding the Nader campaign... they KNOW a bunch of their people WON'T vote for bush, but they sure didn't want Kerry to win without a scandal.

I SERIOUSLY doubt that Nader is getting 12%, disgruntled repukes or not. However, many of the votes we'll see for Nader this time ARE NOT DEMS AND GREENS like we had in 2000.

There will still be some greens & Dems voting for Nader, but one helluvalot of repukes I know are voting for Nader, 'cause they can't stand bush, but can't bring themselves to vote for Kerry, either.

Take a deep breath, and O8) PRAY!!! O8) Besides casting a vote and working the polls, and shuttling people to and fro to vote, that's about all we can do right now!

:kick:

[kurt_cagle]

40. Is that necessarily bad?

If it IS in fact disgusted Republicans who are voting for Nader rather than hold their noses and vote for the "Liberal" Kerry, is this really bad for Kerry? These aren't Kerry votes being pulled away, they are Bush votes that would otherwise stay home and not vote at all. Nader's strength in 2000 came from the Greens, who are decidedly liberal -- there isn't a Green on the planet who's going to vote for Nader this year.

I actually find this vastly amusing - the GOP has been funding Nader because they saw him as a Green magnet, yet he may end up becoming exclusively the protest vote for those Republicans who cannot in good faith vote with their party and are looking for an alternative.

[loudsue]

42. No, kurt_cagle....it's NOT BAD at all!

It's like a republican ballot trash can, if you ask me. I just don't want Dems to despair that Nader is pulling all these votes from OUR side -- which many Dems believe! He ISN'T!! He's getting a lot of votes from the disgruntled repukes, and I think it's fine! If they didn't vote for Nader, they'd be voting for bush.... which a lot of the repukes can't stomach this time.

It's actually a win for our side, but Dems keep freaking out, thinking that he's taking votes from Kerry, when he isn't!

I'm sure there are SOME liberals that are voting for Nader, but I think the majority of his votes this time will be disgruntled repukes, rather than self-destructive liberals. Most liberals are too smart to vote for Nader this time.

The repukes are just trying to create a deeper divide among Dems (creating divides is their specialty in our country) by voting for Nader.

Dems: DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID! Nader votes this time aren't coming from our side!

:kick::kick:

[michigandem2]

41. its 1.2% and thanks for noticing that too..

I posted the same thing and went to the website and it was 1.2% MSNBC had it wrong..and I think that poll is an Outlier...Zogby has Kerry up 6 pts in MI

[Media_Lies_Daily]

44. Nice try. Have a safe trip back to la-la land.

[cynatnite]

45. I'm not surprised at the screwups by the media

I can see the 12% being a typo. That makes sense.

When I was working out today, Faux news said tow instead of two in their ticker at the bottom of the screen.

It read "bush up tow points" :eyes:

[TexasSissy]

46. Nope. Something wrong with that poll. Disregard it. Stick with the big

boys.

[Roland99]

47. Nader 12%?? BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

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[Andromeda]

48. There is no way Nader is getting 12%.

It's a non sequitor; he hasn't been polling higher that 2% in any of the more recent polls.

[UpsideDownFlag]

49. nader wouldn't even carry twelve percent in frigging san fransisco.

that's BS

[depakid]

50. The media whores' last gasp

They're using bogus poll numbers that they KNOW are wrong.

[bush equals idiot]

51. This just in...from Noah's ark

Rr-i-i-i-i-i-ght.

Signed,

Bill Cosby

[The Wielding Truth]

52. Michigan has been hurt so bad by Bush. Guaranteed Kerry.

[TheDonkey]

53. They should have been embarassed to show that poll

what a load of shit it was. 12%!?!?! LMAO maybe in bizzaro world.