Unforgivable: Which Bush Crime Will YOu Hold Against Him For Longest?

[Plaid Adder]

Which of the following horrible thing will you, to the best of your knowledge right now, just about never be 'over'?

[XanaDUer]

1. The 2nd one

the bastard.

[Arkana]

2. All of em

The Connecticut Cowboy deserves to hang for what he's done.

[smbolisnch]

3. All of the above, for sure.

I can see myself in 50 years, when my grandchildren ask me about Bush*. I can only imagine how I will explain the things that he is responsible for.

[BlueEyedSon]

4. Patriot act & the deficit

[H3Dakota]

5. Everything, yes, but...

Above all? Disregarding all the warnings/evidence where he could have prevented 9/11.

[Technowitch]

6. Authorizing the detention and torture of "terrorist suspects"

These are truly horrific crimes.

[The Magistrate]

7. It Is Impossible For Me To Decide, Ma'am

Between the theft of the election, and the invasion of Iraq.

"LET'S GO GET THOSE BUSH BASTARDS!"

[Stephanie]

8. My 3000 dead neighbors.

Leapt to their deaths, burned alive, or crushed in the collapse.

Their blood on his hands.

[genius]

23. Exactly. On 9/11, he murdered 3000 Americans for political gain

[stray cat]

9. Deficit, wealthy tax cuts, incompetency in Iraq.

nt

[amber dog democrat]

10. Prefer seeing him tired for war crimes.

and getting sentenced for life.

[Catchawave]

11. If he's re-unelected....

I smell bigger problems for him than the above list in the poll.

[Cocoa]

12. Iraq

by itself, lying in the State of the Union was impeachable, but that was only the tip of the iceberg. :mad:

[Journeyman]

13. Without the original crime, there'd been no crime wave. . .

So I'll hold the Theft of Democracy against him longest.

[yewberry]

14. Killing women in the name of his religion

Instituting the global gag rule. Defunding UN population Fund. Absinence-only education.

Congratulations, Mr. Good Christian, abortion numbers are up and health-care clinics around the world are closed.

[fryguy]

15. all of them, and....

gutting the economic prosperity for the benefit of his wealthy friends.....loosing more american jobs than any other president since Hoover.....handicaping our health care system by not permitting bulk medicine purchasing......stripping environmental laws to advantage big business......

[SammyWinstonJack]

16. All of the above

:grr:

[democratreformed]

17. Embracing and following the PNAC agenda.

That's the main one but there are many others.

[amber dog democrat]

29. That works for me.

Even with a stolen election, there may have been a fool's hope that he could have done SOMEthing right or of benefit to the American people and the world at large.

His was a presidency of total failure and a waste of lives, treasure, and global stability and national consensus at home. In the end he was a failure on an unprecidented level. He was a fool and an instrument of evil.

[dbackjon]

18. Crimes against the Environment

[DrFunkenstein]

19. Shock And Awe

It quiets me to think about it.

[Daisey Mae]

20. You made a great poll

But there must be hundreds of thousands more that I can think of...He does about one a minute...He is a MISERABLE FAILURE and he will GO DOWN....TOMORROW....

[tyedyeto]

21. Appointing a$$y-crafty

who has been at the forefront of taking away many of our civil liberties.

[eataTREE]

22. Oooo. I can't decide.

Every Bush debacle that I think of seems worse than all the rest, while I'm thinking about it.

On reflection, I think that, of all the Bush misstakes, the Iraq War is the one that we'll be dealing with the consequences of for the longest time. The abuses of the so-called PATRIOT act will, God willing, be reformed and corrected. With austerity and tax increases on the wealthy, we will pay down the deficit. But we will probably still have a big mess in Iraq for years to come. Bush has saddled us with an ongoing international crisis. Thanks a lot, pal. But hey, at least you showed everyone that you were tougher than your Dad, right?

[alexisfree]

24. for the murder of 100,000 Iraqi civilians

and more than 1800 soldiers ether death or attempting murder.

[Socialist Dem]

25. The murder

of over 100,000 people so his corporate masters could post record profits.

[giant_robot]

26. A combination of choices 3 and 4

exploiting 9/11 and lying us into a war in Iraq.

[number6]

27. All of the above and more

PUT his smirking monkey ass in Jail !!!!!!!!!!!!

[Catfight]

28. Everything that happened after the stolen election could have been

prevented had there been a REAL president in office, therefore, I'll never forgive Gore for not standing up for the people who were disenfranchised so W. could ruin our great country! Not again, not while I'm alive, we are taking our country BACK!

[sr_pacifica]

30. Other:

Destroying America as we've known it.

[Eurobabe]

31. other -- Just for merely existing

[ThoughtCriminal]

32. Take away crime #1 (2000 theft) and remaining never happen

[kaitykaity]

33. LIHOP/MIHOP.

Arranging their "new Pearl Harbor" so that they could
implement the PNACers vision of American foreign policy.

[Moonbeam_Starlight]

34. The unnecessary

unjust, illegal, immoral attack of Iraq absolutely breaks my heart.

It makes me angry.

It makes me feel ashamed of my country.

How could we? HOW COULD WE? All those thousands of Iraqis, dead. Families destroyed. Livelihoods ruined, businesses collapsed. Buildings annihilated, homes destroyed. Cities in waste. The entire country almost reduced to rubble. Blood in the streets. False "freedom" but they can't even walk down the street safely or send their kids to school. What kind of freedom is that, exactly?

All our wonderful US servicemembers, who do their duty without asking questions, who DEPEND ON US, the CIVILIANS, to ask questions of the government when they cannot who have shed their blood and lost their lives there. All of their families here who have been torn apart by such human misery, such grief as is almost incomprehensible.

I look on the last four years with a profound sense of shame. A deep sense of disgust. And just heartbreaking sadness.

My husband's best friend is due to ship out for the Sunni Triangle soon. He knows the deal, he knows this is a nasty sham. He has two little girls, 3 and 5, and a wife who is the light of his life. God forbid, if anything happens to him, I will never forgive.

I will never forgive.

[dennis4868]

35. Lying to the american people, congress, and....

the world about the "threat" from Iraq before the war and their ties to 911....I still lose sleep over this!

[Atman]

36. I blame Bar and Poppy for not using protection

nt

[PresidentErnestTBass]

37. For being an American fascist

Take your pick: having dissidents arrested, shoving opposition into "free speech zones" far away, destroying the careers of those who merely disagree with him, having innocent people beaten up and threatened with death at his whim, lying through his teeth and wanting us to believe that he's a good Christian for it.

W. Bush is a little Hitler who deserves being goose-stepped hard in the ass for all eternity.

[Eugene]

38. Trashing the rule of law at home and abroad

:dem:

[Tikki]

39. His throughly corrupt being....

which is the same as 'all of the above'.

[InvisibleTouch]

40. Election Theft 2000

It made all the other crimes possible.

[yellowcanine]

41. It's the Iraq invasion AND the lies about it - before AND after.

I really can't hold the 9-11 intelligence failures against him even though I think there is a chance that Gore might have had a better shot of stopping the attacks - however we will never know for sure - BUT there is no denying the Iraq clusterfuck. That is Bush's baby all the way and there is no doubt in my mind that actual crimes were committed to get us into that war.

[txindy]

42. The theft of the 2000 election from which all the other crimes sprang

Without that election fraud and manipulation, none of the other evilness could have come about. :grr:

[Beaverhausen]

43. Hard to pick but 101,123 and counting dead people wins it for me

The universe will pay him back for that in the end.

edit- missed a hundred thousand people there. sorry.

[gottaB]

44. War crimes, crimes against humanity, torture

The war in Iraq covers a lot of that.

The invasion of Iraq was illegal, but it didn't have to degenerate into barbarism--sadisme automatique, if that's allowable. That's Bush's baby. He was abetted by Gonzales, Yoo, Bybee and the other memographers, and by a cadre of genteel essayists, whose job it seems was to soften a public too enmeshed in the habits of civilization to contemplate condoning, much less putting into practice, such abominations. And Rumsfeld surely spent many a long night conjuring up transformational methods of torture, and he whispered such sweet nothings into Bush's ear. Bush, however, remains primarily responsible. He wanted it to happen. He made sure it happened. And when the scandal came to light, he did nothing.

The Bush torture policy doesn't belong in Iraq. It doesn't belong anywhere the US operates. It doesn't belong to the civilized world. I will never forget the crimes that were committed, nor who made them happen.

Maybe as Sontag argues (Regarding the Torture of Others) the images from Abu Ghraib will be the images that come to define the war in Iraq. If that's what history records, so be it.

[Hubert Flottz]

45. The torture of unarmed POWs!

Some were even little kids! That's when the step up in beheadings started! That is when Bush painted a target on any American service man or woman, who are unlucky enough to be taken alive by the enemy, anywhere, anytime, from now on! How can the people who did these things to POWs, EVER claim, that they support our troops in the field? The "Bad Apples" are rotten from the top of the barrel down, in the torturegate horror! The CiC is supposed to lead by example, so how could we have expected anything better out of the troops? The military leaders are a band of chicken hearted shirkers and yes men and their awol misleader in the White House, is the worst example of the lot!

This bunch in the White House have brought shame on every American who has ever served in the military! I always thought America wanted to fight people like the Nazis and the VC, who tortured and killed American prisoners! Instead, our soldiers were ordered by Bush and Rumbo to sink to the same level, as the people we were trained to hate and to kill in the years gone by! If it takes torturing, raping and murdering of unarmed women and kids to spread the NeoKKKon brand of "Democracy", then I say FUCK that kind of Democracy! I'm sickened because my tax money has paid for the horrid shit these motherless M F-ers have done to us and to the planet!

Read my fu?king lips, "This Aggression, SHOULD NOT STAND!"

I'll never forgive or forget the AWOL coward who stood before the world and taunted the enemy, because he knew his or none of his wealthy family's asses would EVER be on the line! The enemy is "bringing it on" every fucking day in Iraq now, so I guess Bush got what he asked for! It's a God damned shame that our kids are the ones paying for Bush's arrogance, instead of that smirking self-serving FOOL who did the taunting for his political photo op! Playing politics with our service men and women's lives, is just another day at the fucking office for the NeoKKKons!

If there really is a God, then Bush has got to be on the very tip top of his all time shit list!

[luaptifer]

46. Unforgiveable: GOP sitting on incriminating reports awaiting reelection!

As things are looking now, maybe not so much an issue. But with these CONs, you really can't let your guard down. I set up a new blog to do a last minute push of this recently discovered info:

Coup 2004: GOP sitting on 3 incriminating reports, waiting until election is over

Suppressed CIA and SIC Reports Deny the Right to Hold the Bush Administration to FULL Account on Nov 2.

Knowing many of the published circumstances that led us to war in Iraq, I also knew that the Independent 911 Commission had issued a whitewash Final Report and simply laid the blame on hordes of nameless, faceless federal agents. Thus, the burden fell to those executing policy rather than those who created it. I concluded that this whitewash of the powerful would produce serious 'blowback'.

Much of the current leakage represents those hordes taking their due. As the issues evolve, I've been telling friends, "I think I'm falling in love with the CIA!"

But I've been unhappy for months with understanding that an enormous amount of political leverage had been applied to delay release until after the national elections of what I then knew to be the Second Report of the Senate Intelligence Committee. I’ve known of this report for some time despite its scarce mention.


"But it is too soon for President Bush to hazard a sigh of relief, because the committee plans a second report, to be completed next year, which will address additional questions including "whether public statements, reports, and testimony regarding Iraq by US Government officials...were substantiated by intelligence information." Put another way, the question is whether the President and his chief advisers in the run-up to war exaggerated, misrepresented, or ran on beyond the intelligence claims now shown to have been wrong...


How Bush Got it Wrong, Thomas Powers. August 25, 2004. NY Review of Books, Vol. 51, Number 14.

'Did the Administration in any way manipulate intelligence.' Then this evening, we learn of another delayed SIC report:



"Two Senate intelligence committee investigations--into whether the White House misused prewar intelligence about Iraq and whether a special Pentagon unit manipulated intelligence about Iraq-Al Qaeda links--won't be finished until the end of the year at the earliest, say committee sources."
So the other Second Report addresses Douglas Feith's Office of Special Plans. And knowledge of these two investigations comes in the context of CIA Director Goss withholding report number three,


"...a hard-hitting report about agency officials who might be held accountable for 9/11 intelligence failures. The report identifies a host of current and former officials who could be candidates for possible disciplinary procedures imposed by a special CIA Accountability Board...

But Goss shows no inclination to release the document any time soon. When an account of the suppressed report surfaced on the Los Angeles Times op-ed page last week, NEWSWEEK has learned, Goss's top aide ordered the agency's Office of Security to conduct a leak investigation. "Everybody feels it will be better off if this hits the fan after the election," said one agency official.


Accountability: The CIA's Secret, Michael Isikoff. Newsweek, October 27, 2004.

Is no-one else just OUTRAGED?!

These delays constitute the fundamental abrogation of our rights as Americans to be a fully informed electorate. The information obviously exists NOW, before the election!. Clearly, our Republican-controlled White House and Congress have eliminated the possibility that we Americans can hold the Bush Administration fully accountable on November 2.

Accountability: ISN'T THAT WHAT ELECTIONS ARE DESIGNED TO PROVIDE?!


Do THESE people not work for US?! The bottomline is that our elected representatives did and do not represent OUR interests. The events occurring right now are said to implicate top level officials in the CIA while I suspect SIC's reports implicate those in the Pentagon's OSP and the VP's office.


WHY THE HELL ARE WE DENIED -- by design – full knowledge of the facts surrounding the performance of our top level Administration officials during what will most likely be viewed through history as the paramount events of the New American Century?!


I DEMAND to know exactly who is represented by officials who engineered delays in release of these three reports. WHO wants to keep us in the dark until after the Bush Administration is re-elected?! Exactly WHO is unwilling to be held to account?!


Thomas Powers again:


"…A president is not only the leader of the country, but the leader of his party as well, and a serious attack on a president concerning a substantial matter is an invitation to conflict of a kind that resembles civil war.. But the failure to act before September 11 and the unnecessary war with Iraq cannot fairly be blamed on intelligence organizations or anyone else. The White House is the problem, not for the first time. Iraq is President Bush's war. He insisted on it, and nothing can save us from the same again until we find the will to hold the President responsible."
I just get so angry when I consider this cynical denial of our rights, it’s a criminal collusion. This election would not be a contest if Americans at-large knew the facts being withheld from us. I demand my right to the TRUTH, NOW!

"Everybody feels it will be better off if this hits the fan after the election," or apparently everybody who counts in a kingdom!

Remember this: If Bush doesn't lose this election, it's because the theft was engineered long ago by the Senate Intelligence Committee and our newly appointed CIA Director, Porter Goss.

I hope we will not let the coup of 2004 reinstall this President?!


Please take the time to sign the petition demanding pre-election release of the CIA report. It may be late but better than never.

http://beyondcomfortablynumb.blogspot.com/2004/10/coup-2004-gop-sitting-on-3.html

Also check out

911: Voices of Dissent to a Unanimous Bipartisan Consensus Report

and

Record of Bush Administration's Obstruction of Investigation of 911

[newyawker99]

49. Hi luaptifer!!

Welcome to DU!! :toast:

[luaptifer]

53. thanks newyawker99!

i've lurked and browsed previously and certainly used the resources you all make available, seemed like time i made a little contribution and became a little more active in the reality-based community here!

[ydya]

47. wasting oxygen by breathing

[flygal]

48. All - he's worthless!

It started with him raping the environment, saying F-U to women's reproductive rights, and ended with Iraq. He's toast!

[SemiCharmedQuark]

50. Trying to turn our country into a theocracy AND all of the above.

:mad:

[cassiepriam]

51. 100,000 women and children killed

And how many others tortured, raped, maimed?
I am haunted by them.

[Justpat]

52. All of the above.

I want to see him held accountable - no matter how long it takes.

[Plaid Adder]

54. Since someone once asked me to post my own answers to my polls...

God, it's a tough call, but I would have to say the Iraq war gets the prize.

I sit here and I still can't believe that Bush managed to get this country involved in a horrendous, destructive, and now apparently completely failed war that we absolutely DID NOT HAVE TO FIGHT. 100,000+ people in Iraq plus our 1000+ American soldiers plus all the survivors who have been wounded so deeply, physically or emotionally, that they will be their whole lives recovering. Hell, death, blood, lies, treachery, cruelty, torture, oppression, massacre...and it was all UNNECESSARY.

And that's before we get to the part about how the Iraq war has actually increased the strength of Al-Qaeda, something for which we will be paying the price long after (God willing) Bush is voted out tomorrow.

Somewhere in one of my columns I called going to war unnecessarily the worst mistake a president can make. By God it is. And what he had to do to get us into it was not good for anyone either. And what he did to civil liberties in this country in the name of supportin the 'war on terror' is just as bad. And...oh, I could go on, but life is short.

He has to lose. He just has to. If we can't get rid of this asshole then we're not a democracy any more.

Battle stations, everyone,

The Plaid Adder

[Polly Glot]

55. All of the above, and my fervent wish is that the first thing Kerry

does after taking the oath of office is to put together a BONA FIDE independent investigation of the PNAC's role in 9/11 and prosecute those effers until they start rotting in the first circle of hell.

[NNadir]

56. I hope to forget the useless evil cretin, but if I think of him ever again

I will probably mull all of his failures and hate each of them.

[idiosyncratic]

57. All of the above starting with the first one.

If that had not happened, we wouldn't have to hold any of the rest of them against him. :cry:

[KelleyKramer]

58. Attempted murder of undercover CIA agent

That is the true definition of Treason!!

These people should be in prison.

[CitySky]

59. it's a tough call

How about a "stealing-an-election-in-order-to-loot-the-national-Treasury-and-stuff-the-pockets-of-wealthy-insurance-companies-polluters-and-war-profiteers" category?

[The Wielding Truth]

60. Although I voted all, I will never forgive his deceptive manipulations..

Bush and Company.

[Norbert]

61. Sending 1120 soldiers to their deaths.

many thousand others mained and injured.

[psychopomp]

62. Disdain for our Constitution, trying to ignite racial hatred

Anti-democratic racial holy war.

[ohio_dem_52186]

63. Other - Consistent Deception of the American Public

[Robbie67]

64. Presenting the congress with intentionally false information

An impeachable offense.

He did a lot of bad things, but this was the topper.

[gristy]

65. As this thread shows, there are so many...

But my number one is his treating our treasury like his own personal piggy bank. He and his cronies have stolen $$$ from our country just as Lay and his cronies stole from Enron and its stockholders.