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neoSattva Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:05 PM
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Abortion rate has increased under *
Pass this on to anyone you know who is voting for w because of the abortion issue. He talks the talk for political advantage, but if the problem really went away, he'd lose his primary wedge issue.

Excerpts from the Sojourners:
"Under President Bush, the decade-long trend of declining abortion rates appears to have reversed," said Glen Stassen, Lewis B. Smedes Professor of Christian Ethics at Fuller Theological Seminary, a leading evangelical divinity school. Citing connections to rising unemployment and soaring healthcare costs, Stassen noted that "economic policy and abortion are not separate issues. They form one moral imperative."

Many expected that downward trend to continue under the conservative president, but Stassen found the opposite: 52,000 more abortions occurred in 2002 than would have been expected

http://www.sojo.net/index.cfm?action=news.display_archives&mode=press_release&article=PR_041013

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IdaBriggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:07 PM
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1. Here's more info at www.invisibleida.com ---
The site is pure data www.invisibleida.com --

1) 9/11 & OUR SAFETY: Prior to 9/11 George W. Bush dismantled our existing anti-terrorism systems (http://www.fas.org/irp/crs/RL30938.pdf - pg 6), ignored warnings of impending terrorist attacks (http://www.cnn.com/2004/images/04/10/whitehouse.pdf, http://www.fas.org/irp/news/2002/05/wh051602.html, http://www.9-11commission.gov/hearings/hearing8/staff_statement_8.pdf - pgs 9-10), and tried to cut the FBI counter-terrorism budget by $65 Million (12%) (http://www.americanprogress.org/atf/cf/%7BE9245FE4-9A2B-43C7-A521-5D6FF2E06E03%7D/FY03ASHCROFT.PDF).

2) ABORTION: George W. Bush does not believe abortion laws should contain excepts for the life or health of the mother (http://debates.org/pages/trans2004c.html), which means 2% of all pregnancies, being ectopic, become automatic death sentences (http://my.webmd.com/hw/being_pregnant/hw144923.asp). Also, abortions have INCREASED during George W. Bush’s tenure as President (http://sev.prnewswire.com/magazines/20041013/DCW06813102004-1.html).

3) UNDERCOVER INTELLIGENCE: George W. Bush's administration has publicly identified two undercover CIA operatives (which is considered treason), one a specialist in “weapons of mass destruction” (http://www.townhall.com/columnists/robertnovak/rn20030714.shtml, http://www.commondreams.org/scriptfiles/views03/1010-12.htm) and the other an Al-Qaeda mole (http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2004/08/10/leak_of_qaeda_suspect_name_criticized/), but George W. Bush doesn’t know which of his “trusted advisors” did it, so no one has been fired. But George W. Bush has testified (with the help of a personal criminal attorney (http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=FA0B11FB3E550C708CDDAF0894DC404482)) in front of a Grand Jury on the subject.

4) CAMPAIGN SMEARS: George W. Bush's campaign has participated in one of the worst smears ever perpetuated in presidential politics by trying to paint a decorated combat veteran as a “traitorous communist” – Ken Cordier, “Veterans for Bush” (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/21/edwards.swiftboat/index.html); Benjamin Ginsber, Campaign Lawyer (http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/25/ginsberg.swiftboat/index.html, http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_08/004571.php); Robert Perry / Karl Rove, Financial Contributions (http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/Read.asp?fn=df08252004.html); Admiral William Schacht, $40 Million Man (http://www.nydailynews.com/front/story/227267p-195132c.html, http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A47542-2004Aug30.html); All Ties to Bush/Cheney Campaign (http://nytimes.com/imagepages/2004/08/19/politics/campaign/20040820_SWIFT_GRAPH.html); and POW “Stars” & Their Public Lies (http://www.invisibleida.com/#Suffering%20POWs, http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5962170/) -- who apparently escaped detection while publicly testifying “war is bad” (http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0438/turse.php) before Congress on national television and having been a public figure for the last thirty-five years.

5) DEFICITS: George W. Bush has wracked up record setting deficits (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20041014/ts_nm/economy_budget_dc_4) and raided the social security trust to pay for it (http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=4985&sequence=2).

6) KEEPING US SAFE: George W. Bush keeps confusing “spending money” (which goes to his corporate cronies and Washington lobbyists) with “making America safer” when 95% of the containers coming into this country still aren’t being inspected (http://www.house.gov/hsc/democrats/dem_plan_030905.pdf - pg 4), 8000+ illegal aliens are crossing the borders daily (http://debates.org/pages/trans2004d.html), an airline “do not fly list” targets musicians and politicians instead of terrorists (http://www.house.gov/hsc/democrats/dem_plan_030905.pdf - pg 3, http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/0/545804498FEAC1D080256F3800599191!opendocument), and a huge chunk of our National Guard and Military Reserves are currently overseas (http://www.floridatoday.com/!NEWSROOM/opedstory1019WIRAQLETS.html).

7) OUR TROOPS: George W. Bush threatened to VETO a supplemental spending bill for the Troops in Iraq (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,100777,00.html) unless it was "a gift to Iraq" and included a $27 BILLION “slush fund” for Halliburton. George W. Bush has cut services for veterans (http://www.invisibleida.com/#Cut%20Services%20for%20Veterans), left National Guard and Military Reserve families with no access to insured health care (http://www.fortwayne.com/mld/journalgazette/news/local/10036787.htm), and presided over the largest loss of military personnel since the Vietnam War (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/ops/iraq_casualties.htm).

8) IRAQ: George W. Bush was wrong about Iraq being an imminent threat; they had no weapons of mass destruction (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2004-03-02-un-wmd_x.htm), and were unable to prove it (http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2003-02-04-saddam-interview_x.htm) because of corruption within the “Oil for Food” program (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6214647/site/newsweek/). They had refused to support Al-Qaeda and had nothing to do with September 11, 2001 (http://us.oneworld.net/article/view/96543/1/3319, http://www.9-11commission.gov/report/index.htm - Sec 10.3). And the "mass graves" were debunked by Tony Blair (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/politics/story/0,6903,1263830,00.html ) (the English Prime Minister).

9) ENVIRONMENT & PUBLIC HEALTH: George W. Bush's environmental record is best described as “disastrous” (http://www.sierraclub.com/sierra/200409/sins.asp) and global climate change (http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/30/science/earth/30arctic.html?oref=login) is getting worse. Meanwhile, what he’s done to the meat inspectors at the USDA (http://www.commondreams.org/views04/0102-06.htm, http://www.commondreams.org/news2004/0723-02.htm) is nearly unbelievable. (At least five people in New Jersey are dead from “mad cow” (http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/04/28/earlyshow/contributors/melindamurphy/main614154.shtml) as of this writing, while deadly e-coli and listeria outbreaks are on the rise (http://www.commondreams.org/scriptfiles/views03/1222-11.htm, http://my.webmd.com/content/article/50/40445.htm?lastselectedguid={5FE84E90-BC77-4056-A91C-9531713CA348}) due to the “new rules” regarding fecal matter on meat.)

10) IN GENERAL: George W. Bush has been unable to capture Osama bin Laden in three years (who is still making videos) (http://slate.msn.com/id/2108921/), despite a world wide manhunt and “doesn’t think about him much anymore” (press conference from Feb? 2004). George W. Bush will not admit to errors or mistakes (press conference Feb? 2004, 2nd Presidential Debate). George W. Bush really believes everything in Iraq is going well (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6090706/). George W. Bush allowed AK-47s back on our streets (http://www.invisibleida.com/#AK-47s), didn’t fund the 100,000 COPS program (http://www.invisibleida.com/#COPS%20Program), and hasn't done anything to fix the rising cost of healthcare (http://quote.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=a0.U_8eEIUf8&refer=us). He’s either a nice guy who isn’t in touch with reality, or he’s a self-serving liar, neither of which makes a good president, but all of this is beside the point because he needs everyone to ignore reality so he can get re-elected!


More Useful Information

100 Facts and 1 Opinion: The Non-Arguable Case Against the Bush Administration: http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20041108&s=facts
"People of Faith for Kerry": http://www.wvgazette.com/section/News/Other+News/2004102830
Republicans for Kerry: http://www.republicansforkerry.org/
Repent Nader Voters: http://www.repentantnadervoter.com/
President Bush: Flip-Flopper In Chief: http://www.americanprogressaction.org/site/pp.asp?c=klLWJcP7H&b=118263
"Forget Bush: Its His Supporting Cast that REALLY Deserves the Boot": http://www.workingforchange.com/article.cfm?itemid=17635
The Document Sean Hannity Doesn't Want You To Read: http://www.propagandamatrix.com/articles/september2004/230904seanhannity.htm
VotingCatholic.org: http://www.votingcatholic.org/
26 Free Videos Online: http://www.independentmediasource.com/video.htm
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TlalocW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:14 PM
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2. I've argued for a better part of the year
Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 03:16 PM by TlalocW
With conservative friends and relatives that no matter how polly-annish they are in their thinking of "If we could just make America a Christian nation then everything would be all right," the truth of the matter is when you've got a good economy, several things happen - crime rates go down, abortion rates go down, high school graduation and college enrollment go up, teenage pregnancy goes down, drug use goes down, etc. Not only does the money in the pockets of the citizens help out, but the pride of having a job and the optimism for the future keeps people on track for their goals. Plus I think because the teenagers have something positive to do (jobs) as well as plans for college/careers, they have less time and inclination to engage in pre-marital sex as an escape from their normal lives.

The only "negative "thing that happens, and this is the one thing I agree with Ann Coulter on (and she actually complained about this during Clinton), is that the fast food industry is staffed by unqualified people, and that's to be expected since everyone else with a superior skill set is able to get a better job.

Plus a better economy gives the federal, state, and local government more money for programs for at-risk kids like Midnight Basketball, whose participants have to attend classes on resume writing and interview skills.

Republicans, however, hate it when everyone benefits from a good economy even if it does positively affect one of their top morality issues.

TlalocW
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Radio-Active Donating Member (735 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:16 PM
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3. Even if Bush did appoint SC justices who overturn Roe V. Wade
wouldn't the question of abortion be left to the states?

Not only could the rich go to other countries, but the middle class could easily just go to the nearest blue state! That only leaves the poor for the back alley abortionists.
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spinbaby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:21 PM
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4. Thanks for the link
I just printed it out for a friend who's wavering because of the abortion issue.
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neoSattva Donating Member (114 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:30 PM
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5. That's why I put it up here - Thanks!
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drmom Donating Member (450 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-01-04 03:35 PM
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6. Not surprising at all. At a recent medical conference I attended...
...abortion providers say that many more married women are terminating pregnancies because they just cannot afford another child.

BTW, the conference was for doctors who are interested in learning the D&C technique "just in case" it is needed.

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