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Mon Nov-01-04 04:48 PM
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Is PA still going Kerry? I've seen news that Bush might get PA |
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And Kerry has not been there much lately. Seems like he's been in OH, WI, or FL constantly.
Are the Amish going to swing PA to Bush?
We'd have a MUCH HARDER time winning w/o PA. I'm concerned. Give me good news.
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:50 PM
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:50 PM
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2. I don't see any possible scenario in which PA goes to Bush. |
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Sorry, but if one report scares you, you need to wake up.
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:51 PM
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3. Bet the Ranch.............................Kerry wins PA. |
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:51 PM
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4. PA is done. Kerry's been ahead 4-8 points for about a month, now. |
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Take it off the board. Color it blue.
-MR
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:51 PM
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5. i'm worried sick about PA |
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Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 04:52 PM by newsguyatl
seems the last minute bush strategy is to take PA, WI and NM to balance off a kerry OH win.
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:53 PM
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:06 PM
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28. I heard the same thing; and that it might be WI that determines the |
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election outcome? Course it was CNN.....
BTW: What does nt or n/t stand for?
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:23 PM
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means there's no message body, so you don't have to bother clicking on it when looking at the thread view.
"eom" is also used ("end of message")
it's netiquette
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Mon Nov-01-04 07:48 PM
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41. Thank you sooooo much for explaining this netiquette! nt |
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:52 PM
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6. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. |
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:53 PM
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8. "Amish going to swing PA to Bush?" Reads like a Freepers story |
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Line to me. WHAT THAT SMALL ? SMELLS LIKE A ...............
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:57 PM
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15. I am not, nor have I ever been a freeper... |
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Please review all my prior posts. There are no spelling errors or any instances of bad grammar or examples of limited vocabulary.
Do you need any further proof than that?
P.S. I was a Libertarian in H.S. but that doesn't' really count because I was stoned a lot back then.
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Mon Nov-01-04 06:49 PM
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40. There Aren't Enough Amish to Swing the state to Bush. L.O.L. |
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:53 PM
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9. I just needed to hear some reassurance. The Amish People Scare Me. |
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I'll stop worrying about PA now and color it blue. Thanks.
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:00 PM
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21. Less than 10% of the Amish vote. Relax. They aren't exactly a voting |
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powerhouse. Get our people out and they won't even be a blip.
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:10 PM
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30. The Amish People Scare Me, Too |
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What with their scrapple and their shoo-fly pie and the whole Rumspringa thing.
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:11 PM
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:20 PM
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36. Coming from a Mennonite family (like Amish with cars) |
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I've never known an Amish person to vote repug. They believe in environmental conservation and helping the poor; when they do vote, it's always for Dems.
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Mon Nov-01-04 07:52 PM
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43. The Amish People Scare Me |
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Mon Nov-01-04 08:08 PM
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51. Didn't you see "Deadly Blessing?" |
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:55 PM
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Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 04:56 PM by BrentTaylor
Edwards was there yesterday
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:55 PM
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I am from PA and it's funny how many people think the whole state is mostly populated with Amish. (typical question - "oh you're from PA... were you raised Amish?" Too funny.) They are a tiny minority and even if every single one of them votes Boooooosh we still are in great shape in PA.
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:01 PM
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22. I Heard the "Bush/Cheney04" Buggy Stickers are a Hot Item in Amish Country |
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And that they were making special efforts to bring them non-Diebold, non-electronic voting paraphernalia so they could vote without defiling themselves.
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Mon Nov-01-04 07:59 PM
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...I was born,raised and still live in Pa and many still think the whole state is some Amish diary farm,its not.Kerry will take Pa.
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:55 PM
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12. If Kerry were concerned with PA he would be there today |
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:57 PM
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13. PA is ours hands down. |
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Don't worry, we here in Philly will carry the state ourselves.
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:57 PM
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14. Umm, he only had his post-op debut with CLINTON in PA! |
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Noooo...he hasn't been there much recently...:eyes:
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:59 PM
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Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 05:04 PM by Nicholas_J
Again, the polls showing Bush ahead in PA also are goping trhings like polling 38 percent Republicans and 35 percent Democrats, which is pretty much the reverse of the actual voting profile for elections for the last 15 years in PA. Another indicator is that among new voters for every one new Republican Voter, there were 3 new Democratic voters.
As Usual there are three new polls that ran through the 31st of October. The CNN gallop polls (Oct 28 -31) shows Bush 4 point ahead in PA
The Zogby Poll Polls (OCT 28 - 31) Shows Kerry % point ahead of Bush)
The Quinniiac Poll ( Oct 27 -31) Shows a tie.
The Mason Dixon Poll (Oct 27 -29) Show a Kerry lead of 2 points.
So we have two poll in the last few days showing Kerry leading. One showing Bush leadin (using data showing more republican voting in PA than Democrats) and one poll showing a tie in the state.
The average of all these polls shows Kerry with a lead in the state.
Probably leading by more than the polls indicate as the methodologies differ in each poll, and the way the methodologies are determined are in the end, almost completely subjective, rather than relying on raw data based on equal numbers of people polled by party.
Even more ionteresting is the most Recent Poll by a conservative pollster, Strategic Visions which now shows Kerry with a one point lead in PA.
In a final method of determining who is ahead, there have been nine polls done between the 27th and today. 7 have Kerry n the lead, on has Bush leading, and one has them in a tie.
Since September there have been over 70 polls in PA. Only 7 show Bush leading.
Now who do you think leads in PA.
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:59 PM
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17. My husband canvassed in Harrisburg on Saturday |
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with a couple hundred other volunteers from DC/Maryland. He said people in PA are sounding very pro-Kerry, very angry at B*.
Question: Are the Amish allowed to use electronic voting machines?
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:03 PM
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but after they do, they will surely burn in hell. So it's a trade-off.
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Mon Nov-01-04 04:59 PM
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18. Yup, it's all about the Amish |
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:00 PM
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19. It's not he Amish we have to worry about, it's the Aliens! |
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Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 05:01 PM by Democat
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:00 PM
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20. do amish people even vote?? nt |
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:02 PM
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23. Some do but it is less than 10%. Believe me, even the Amish think it is |
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funny that people think of them as a voting bloc.
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:03 PM
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:04 PM
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27. Swift Buggy Veterans for Truth? |
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Mon Nov-01-04 08:06 PM
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48. What goes "clop-clop-bang-bang-clop-clop?" |
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An Amish drive-by. :evilgrin:
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:12 PM
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34. Careful, just because Bush tried to exploit the Amish is no reason to |
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denigrate them and their beliefs.
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:03 PM
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26. The reason he isn't visiting it is that it's in the bag. |
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:08 PM
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I know lots of Amish, and talk to them daily.
They are not voting for Bush.
They are not voting.
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:14 PM
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35. Finally a voice of reason. |
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:10 PM
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31. I don't know how people in swing states can take |
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the pressure. I'm in Illinois, thank God, and the Union people are keeping this safely in democratic hands. Only wish we could send some of our votes to Ohio or PA.
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:21 PM
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37. You're right, it's gut-wrenching in a swing state right now! |
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Yeah. Here in WI, I'm biting my nails down to nubs. I've a good feeling overall though.
I just found out that a co-worker I thought would be firmly Bush, (he's ex military, back from Iraq) is the most anti-bush guy around (excepting yours truly of course). In fact I caught him reading excerpts from Michael Moore's new book of soldiers' letters on line today. Heartwarming, that.
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Mon Nov-01-04 08:12 PM
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52. Some reason , never doubted WI. Great honest state. |
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Mon Nov-01-04 05:27 PM
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39. No way in hell is bush* getting PA. |
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We've got Kerry's back!!!
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Mon Nov-01-04 07:50 PM
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42. Last I heard the Amish are still staring at the touch-screen machines |
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Mon Nov-01-04 08:04 PM
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47. You are living up to your DU handle, you **nut**! |
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And I mean that is the best possible way, troublemaker!
Thanks for the well-needed laugh -- :toast:
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Mon Nov-01-04 08:20 PM
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54. The best laugh of the day! |
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Unfortunately, the people I work with are now slowly moving away from me.
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Mon Nov-01-04 07:55 PM
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44. USA Today has * 50-46 in PA and Kerry winning OH and FL |
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Edited on Mon Nov-01-04 08:01 PM by doc03
How did that happen the polls have been showing just the opposite for weeks? They show a total reversal since last week (Kerry 50-*47) what the F could have done that?
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Mon Nov-01-04 07:56 PM
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45. PA is my BIGGEST worry right now. |
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We can't count on Florida, which is why we MUST win this state. Right now the freepers are saying they've won PA, and it's making me uncomfortable.
I sense too much confidence on this board.
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Mon Nov-01-04 08:07 PM
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Mon Nov-01-04 08:07 PM
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50. Stop by tomorrow and tell us if you're still uncomfortable. |
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PA is Kerry Country.
Go Steelers!!
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Mon Nov-01-04 08:17 PM
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53. I don't believe it. PA is blue. |
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Mon Nov-01-04 08:34 PM
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55. I have been told that my county is a bell-weather |
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I have been told that my county is a bell-weather for PA. My county is definitely going Kerry. My SIL & BIL were in Philly today, and they could find absolutely no evidence of Bush support. As BIL said, "Bush has been run out of town"
Now, it is true that PA is Philly on the east, Pittsburgh on the west, and Nebraska in-between ;) but PA is going blue--take it to the bank.
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Mon Nov-01-04 08:57 PM
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(I guess that's the PA equivalent of the NJ "Which exit?" :P )
I'm in Bucks Co., made my GOTV phone calls earlier tonight, also doing GOTV tomorrow - and I can tell you, WE'RE PUMPED!!!!:bounce: :bounce:
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Mon Nov-01-04 08:46 PM
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56. they're just talking out of their asses |
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only USA Today has * anywhere near taking PA, but Kerry will take it..in fact, I'll say Kerry will win BIG, the media whores are too afraid to upset the widdle dictator yet :evilgrin:
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